I think that is a bit of an exaggeration. I ran around in chef clothes and a chef hat and fought with a kitchen fork with my first character, and I did fine without exploits. That being said, I agree that certain exploits aren't worth removing and are actually good to have in the game. If the exploits are essentially like cheats, people who care about the challenge are not off-put by them, but also players who don't care about challenge get fewer restrictions.

i really think some people just want the game nerfed for other people, it ain't gonna happen, this isn't world of warcraft or some multiplayer game, so how one person plays the game doesn't affect anyone else, its all just in their head, if i decide to "power level" a skill BIG DEAL, its not cheating, if you enchant 100 daggers you should get better at enchanting, if you sneak around a lot you should get better at sneaking, if you decide to level up enchanting you should be able to enchant items to a higher degreee, there are lots of ways to make a build in this game, you can play it how you want, if you don't want to use enchanting or smithing don't do it, but to complain its broken cause other people like to utilize some game mechanics to their advantage, thats their choice, i don't want some cry baby telling me how to make my character.

5. Exploit to get to level 18 at start of game is to attack havard or rolaf in the cave with the bear while sneaking until sneak is lev 100 (use a dagger and don't wake the bear until sneak is 100... takes 10 minutes)

how is that even possible when i spend most of my time sneak atatcking in 90 hours and only lvl 85 sneak lol

if u get behind him u can do quick sneak attacks with dagger... its fastest if you use a magicka spell in the left hand to kill him when he has a little bit of hp left and when he stands back up hit him with a magick attack again quickly, it will refill his hp then attack with dagger and repeat... i just did it earlier and it probably took a little more than 10 minutes (maybe 20-25 minutes) might have over exagerated there unless it was because i wasnt using steel dagger.

you can't raise your sneak skill to 100 in 10 minutes, but early on you do level faster but that slows a lot as you level up so its really not practical to do that in my opnion cause you are leaving other skills behind so you think that makes you overpowered ? no it doesn't it leaves your character unbalanced, but if someone wants to power level a skill, why does it bother you, why are you doing it if you don't like it?

i agree, i like to level my skills in a balanced way, not just power level one skill that levels you up but leaves other skills behind, now i'm all for people being able to do that if they want, it doesn't affect my game, this is a single player game so how you or someone else plays is inconsequential to me. if a person doesn't like to power level, they don't have to do it. but really they want other people to not be able to do it, ROFL what other people do in their game isn't anoyne else's problem.

You have to go through the trouble to master a different skill or something to offset the balance, but thats not too hard if you ask me if you know the tricks to mastering skills. I personally like to have my chars grind the smithing up to make great armor, even mages because those iron daggers can be used to lvl up the enchanting skill.

If this was in response to me saying that it was good that certain glitches are in the game because they are like cheats, I was referring to the restoration potion loop and stuff like that, not power leveling. Clearly, though, bethesda wants to discourage power leveling because of the changes they made since Oblivion, such as restricting magic xp to in combat casting. But power leveling is a whole different topic and I have no issue at all with the ability to power level.

There are two different basic perspectives in this game, challenge-seeking and role-playing. For most players, the two perspectives overlap. The problem is this notion that game restrictions are incompatible with role-playing. Try to understand that challenge-seekers can be provided with a decent challenge only through restrictions, so if you ban restrictions, you are cutting off the possibility for challenge-seekers to enjoy the game unless they pretend they are playing a different game by making up their own restrictions. Many enjoy Skyrim by making their own restrictions, but assuming this solution is lazy. It would be like saying that poorly cooked but pretty food is ok to serve because the people dinning can always modify it to their liking and no limitations to the appearance of the dish are worth sacrificing. Why not have both attractive and tasty food? Compromise is possible, but only as long as both sides are willing to accept that their perspective isn't the only perspective.

I probably made a mistake asking them to fix some potentially useful exploits... I was hoping they could just give us a chance to respec in response... Maybe they could give out 1 respec potion/book or add a quest to get one through an update or paid dlc... or add the option to respec, possibly with a consequence like removing all crafted items or forcing you to restart the game... I didn't mean to sound like it was a major issue.