"300 Hours of gameplay"

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:42 am

Has nothing to do with being a fan boy...

You basically posted a whine thread about how you only got 150 hours out of the game, as opposed to the 300 hours of content mentioned somewhere or other.

There is nothing on the box saying "you WILL play this for 300 hours", and holding that kind of expectation is ridiculous.

If you want to put out real criticism of the game, then do that..everything in this thread is rehashed whining and vague stuff about the game not being deep enough, being too repetitive, what have you. MOST of the criticism on this forum is useless, and a small percentage is actually valid, so yeah people get annoyed, fan boys or no.

Bethesda during the trailers before the game was launched constantly said 300+ hours of content, this isn't some isolated thing I heard some other random guy on the internet say. Go onto Youtube, trust me, I'm not lying about this. And as I said before, I still love the game, I still got more than my moneys worth, I just thought that 300 hour mark was an overestimate.

Also, because there are randomly generated quests, you theoretically could spend enternity playing the game, but seriously, who wants to spend fifty hours killing generic bandit leaders, the first dozen or so 'inn bounty' quests like that are fine, but after you realize that they are randomly generated and never will end, it begins to lose all of its significance, and becomes boring.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:09 am

Bethesda during the trailers before the game was launched constantly said 300+ hours of content, this isn't some isolated thing I heard some other random guy on the internet say. Go onto Youtube, trust me, I'm not lying about this. And as I said before, I still love the game, I still got more than my moneys worth, I just thought that 300 hour mark was an overestimate.

So what? Seriously, what do you hope to prove, that they exaggerated in their marketing? Did they say 300 hours of content on one character?
There is definitely 300 hours here..I got 300 hours out of Oblivion, probably more out of Morrowind. Unless they somewhere state '300 hours per one character', i'm gonna assume that that kind of claim is mainly a marketing thing.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:20 am

I'm only talking about one character, you have made five. I'm not disagreeing with the replayablility with multiple characters, I just thing that its hard to get more than 150-200+ hours without making up stuff to do (like I have a friend, who, in Morrowind, stole every pillow in the game and made a fort out of it that was bigger than any of Bethesdas forts, while that may have been fun, I really doubt Bethesda would have included things like that in their 300 hour count)

I think when you say "without making up stuff to do" you are highlighting your problem compared to everyone else here. It is a "RPG". That means that you play the game like it is your life. I have played about 100 hours, but have hardly scratched the surface with most quest lines. The reason for that is cause I am not playing the game too finish it, but living in this virtual world. Hell sure every now and again I will do a couple of quests, but most of the time I am just having fun.

I cant count how many times I have set off outside Whiterun to gather some flowers and butterflies, only to be distracted with some random event going on. Many times 4 hours later, and I still havent got round to collecting the plants that I originally set out to get. To me the game does not even have an end. With the radient quest system, I can play literally forever. If you just try and finish it, then I am sure you are right, but most people here bought the game as a "RPG" and that is a completely different animal!

After my first 100 hours, I am not involved yet in the civil war, only have discovered 3 cities, and havent even heard of some of the questlines discussed here. If you choose to play the game as an adventure game, then I am sure you are right... but Skyrim is not an adventure game.... the clue is in the genre!

No one here is argueing that the game cant be finished in 150 hours, because ofc it can. What people are saying is that, they play the game in a different way than you, and that you CAN easily get 300 hours play if you play it like it was meant to be be played. After all this game is not called a "sandbox" game for nothing, and lets be honest ... the marketing team could have said "infinite" gameplay if they had wanted, because with the radiant system it would not be a lie.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:46 pm

Well, that is fine that you talk about one character. Content though is about all the things that game has to offer, right? Now, if you played a warrior, you didn't use all the content since there are many spells left to use. So playing another character actually holds more content in stock. In my definition, "content" is about everything the game has to offer. That includes playing a different type of character as well als the construction set and everything that is possible with it. I don't really see your point. They said the game has more than 300 hours of content and as stated, the game offers that easily. Nobody ever talked about a singe character but the overall playtime you get from the product.

If you insist on your one character theory, this thread is pretty pointless if you ask me.

When estimating how long a game takes, people usually do one playthrough, I guess RPGs could be an execption, but I don't know, I mean, in Dragon Age, there are 6 different origin stories, but I would hate to have to play through a 40 hour game 6 times. That is a 40 hour game, thats how long it would take to beat on one character (including side quests), while dedicated DAO fans could play for 240 hours, most of us would find that really repetitive
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:26 am

4 Characters and 250 hours in, if I count all the things I did 3-4 times - you are probably correct. It's a bit less than 300 hours, depending on your playstyle, I'd say 200-250 hours. Which is still okay, imo.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:06 am

I think when you say "without making up stuff to do" you are highlighting your problem compared to everyone else here. It is a "RPG". That means that you play the game like it is your life. I have played about 100 hours, but have hardly scratched the surface with most quest lines. The reason for that is cause I am not playing the game too finish it, but living in this virtual world. Hell sure every now and again I will do a couple of quests, but most of the time I am just having fun. I cant count how many times I have set off outside Whiterun to gather some flowers and butterflies, only to be distracted with some random event going on. Many times 4 hours later, and I still havent got round to collecting the plants that I originally set out to get. To me the game does not even have an end. With the radient quest system, I can play literally forever. If you just try and finish it, then I am sure you are right, but most people here bought the game as a "RPG" and that is a completely different animal! After my first 100 hours, I am not involved yet in the civil war, only have discovered 3 cities, and havent even heard of some of the questlines discussed here. If you choose to play the game as an adventure game, then I am sure you are right... but Skyrim is not an adventure game.... the clue is in the genre!

Trust me, the 150 hours does include the fact that the character does have ADD (any thing would grab his attention, like catching butterflies for the hell of it, or search inside that house for no reason) but eventually, even that gets old. I was in no way rushing through the quests
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:02 pm

4 Characters and 250 hours in, if I count all the things I did 3-4 times - you are probably correct. It's a bit less than 300 hours, depending on your playstyle, I'd say 200-250 hours. Which is still okay, imo.

I'm only talking about one character though. By the way, how do you keep track of all of that, I am nearing 1000 saves and I thought that trying to find multiple characters through all those saves could get annoying
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:45 am

4 Characters and 250 hours in, if I count all the things I did 3-4 times - you are probably correct. It's a bit less than 300 hours, depending on your playstyle, I'd say 200-250 hours. Which is still okay, imo.

I'd say about 200, for the more immersion content.

200 Hours is more then fine with me as well. I don't see the problem. I always equate fun to money... I got the collectors edition of skyrim for 175 bucks approximately. So I got 180 hours and only explored one type of character... I got more than a dollar per hour of enjoyment...

The only other game I've bought in the last 3 years was CoD MW3... I played it for a total of 8 hours... hated it and never touched it again. I wasn't even close to getting my moneys worth...

My other all time favourite games were the Diablo Series and Guildwars both of which over time I probably got 100s of hours into... but never in my life have I ever gotten so immersed into a game where I played 180 hours in about 50 some days.. and had such a satisfying state of immersion. My point is 200 hours for any game made these days makes it worth it... when the the typical game only gets 200 hours of use in 6 months +...
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:33 am

When estimating how long a game takes, people usually do one playthrough, I guess RPGs could be an execption, but I don't know, I mean, in Dragon Age, there are 6 different origin stories, but I would hate to have to play through a 40 hour game 6 times. That is a 40 hour game, thats how long it would take to beat on one character (including side quests), while dedicated DAO fans could play for 240 hours, most of us would find that really repetitive

I get your point. I still think that Skyrim, due to its open world, is not comparable in that respect. In Dragon age you follow - more or less - the same path. Sure, you choose if you first go to the forest or the dwarfs (I even can't remember the names, shame on me, after 3 playthroughs), but it keeps about the same. Skyrim can be much more influenced to suit oneself IMO. That of course is very subjective and therefore might not be the best argument, still for me the game holds its promise. And as I said, as soon as the CS is out, which belongs to the game's content, you have your 300 hours easily.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:58 am

Trust me, the 150 hours does include the fact that the character does have ADD (any thing would grab his attention, like catching butterflies for the hell of it, or search inside that house for no reason) but eventually, even that gets old. I was in no way rushing through the quests

Believe me I get what you are saying, and I am sure that you didnt rush thru the quests. My point mainly is that you are looking at it as like finishing an adventure game. Role players (and as mentioned it is an RPG) dont play like that. The game is meant to be played like a life, not like a game with an end (unless you play DID). The fact that virtually every other person to post here, says that they have got/will get the 300 hours offered shows that your OP is not really accurate. If you get bored after 150 hours then that is another matter, but the game NEVER finishes, because you will allways have some quest/random event to do even after you finish every single main questline.

What you are actually argueing is that after 150 hours on one character, you are bored, maybe finding things a bit repetetive and have finished the main quests. That is not the same as saying there is not 300 hours gameplay, because even with one character there is infinate gameplay. Also remember that some people have played Oblivion for five years, so I think it is safe to say that some people get bored easier than others.

Infact... to show how we all look at games differently, I could spend 300 hours alone, just gathering different stuff from various parts of the world and not get bored. Whereas one of my friend that plays, never harvests anything, as he finds harvesting incredibly boring..... so he will be many hours down on me based purely on that one variable. In a sandbox game there are many many variables....
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:53 am

Believe me I get what you are saying, and I am sure that you didnt rush thru the quests. My point mainly is that you are looking at it as like finishing an adventure game. Role players (and as mentioned it is an RPG) dont play like that. The game is meant to be played like a life, not like a game with an end (unless you play DID). The fact that virtually every other person to post here, says that they have got/will get the 300 hours offered shows that your OP is not really accurate. If you get bored after 150 hours then that is another matter, but the game NEVER finishes, because you will allways have some quest/random event to do even after you finish every single main questline.

What you are actually argueing is that after 150 hours on one character, you are bored, maybe finding things a bit repetetive and have finished the main quests. That is not the same as saying there is not 300 hours gameplay, because even with one character there is infinate gameplay. Also remember that some people have played Oblivion for five years, so I think it is safe to say that some people get bored easier than others.

Let me rephrase this: I think that In about 150 hours you will see most of what the game has to offer on one playthrough, although you can continue playing if you want.

However... I have played shooters multiple times, even though they offer far less replayablility than Skyrim, so I'm sure continuing my time with Skyrim will not be a problem.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:38 am

I'm only talking about one character though. By the way, how do you keep track of all of that, I am nearing 1000 saves and I thought that trying to find multiple characters through all those saves could get annoying

If you are on the PC, then the Nexus mod site has got some save game manager mods that can be very handy..... or so I am told... I am a one toon player tho myself, so not used them tbh....
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:38 pm

Yeah, there is no comparing content in a linear RPG to something like this. Wiith something VERY linear, say one of the witcher games, you are doing nearly the exact same thing on playthroughs minus maybe executing some different combos or something. With another playthrough on a new character in a game like skyrim, there is no telling what you will be doing differently. Sure you will repeat some quests, but the order might be vastly different, you might pick a different side of the civil war this time etc.

I really don't think the 300 hours thing is too off, unless they actually specified 'with one character' or said 'you will play for 300 hours'I actually consider it a pretty truthful statement.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:48 am

Let me rephrase this: I think that In about 150 hours you will see most of what the game has to offer on one playthrough, although you can continue playing if you want. However... I have played shooters multiple times, even though they offer far less replayablility than Skyrim, so I'm sure continuing my time with Skyrim will not be a problem.

Aye, I dont think people are saying your wrong.... just that they play differently to you. I think they have 167 Dungeons in the game, and you mentioned that you were finding them repetitive, so you havnt really done all 167...that tbh means you were getting bored, not really that you had finished.... subtle difference.

Your best bet is to change the title os the thread too... " After 150 hours on one toon it is possible to get bored", then noone can argue with you:P
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:23 am

Did I ever say I was level 81? At least read my post before you comment
YOU said the last 30 hours really felt like a grind implying that you were leveling up ur character to max
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:07 am

Let me rephrase this: I think that In about 150 hours you will see most of what the game has to offer on one playthrough, although you can continue playing if you want.

However... I have played shooters multiple times, even though they offer far less replayablility than Skyrim, so I'm sure continuing my time with Skyrim will not be a problem.

In my case after 150 hours, I was barely 1/3 of the way through the thieves guild and hadn't done the civil war, main quest or any of the other factions.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:24 am

Im about 300 hours in and I have only done like 8 quests. I have cleared about 40 dungeons though and plenty of forts. Thing is, I play dead is dead on master difficulty so the content is going to last a lot longer for me, not to mention I never use fast travel and I also eat/sleep/drink regularly and this takes additional time.

So far, I have played mostly chaotic evil characters, bandits and such. I haven't even scratched the surface of this game yet and it feels great.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:16 am

YOU said the last 30 hours really felt like a grind implying that you were leveling up ur character to max

I wasn't leveling (sorry, I should have used a better word then 'grind'), but instead, I really felt like I had to milk skyrim for every last drop of content, as the number of new quests (that weren't randomly generated) and the number of uncleared dungeons were beginning to dry up. Those last 30 or so hours was filled with just like, toying with the physics engine, and harvesting all the vegtables I could and litter it all over a city, silly little things like that.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:00 am

In my case after 150 hours, I was barely 1/3 of the way through the thieves guild and hadn't done the civil war, main quest or any of the other factions.

Fine, you CAN see most of what the game has to offer, although depending on how easily you get distracted, could take much longer... Does that satsify you?
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:32 am

im at 614 hours now. i really enjoy it still. im just taking a break atm cause i havent figured out what i want my next playthrough to be. there was a 40hp vampire assassin on master idea i think i might try. sounds fun with illusion and no daggers or bows and staying stage 4 for as much time as possible.
DDDDDDDDDDDDDDizamn 614 hours
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:14 am

im at 614 hours now. i really enjoy it still. im just taking a break atm cause i havent figured out what i want my next playthrough to be. there was a 40hp vampire assassin on master idea i think i might try. sounds fun with illusion and no daggers or bows and staying stage 4 for as much time as possible.

614 hours!? Holy [censored]!
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:32 am

I've gotten 300+ hours of random characters. I've yet to get over 30 on one of them and I've yet to finish a quest line besides the main quest.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:25 pm

I wasn't leveling (sorry, I should have used a better word then 'grind'), but instead, I really felt like I had to milk skyrim for every last drop of content, as the number of new quests (that weren't randomly generated) and the number of uncleared dungeons were beginning to dry up. Those last 30 or so hours was filled with just like, toying with the physics engine, and harvesting all the vegtables I could and litter it all over a city, silly little things like that.

I hate too repeat myself, but the above clearly states that you have got bored with the game, not finished it. Just cause uncleared dungeons were drying up, does not mean that there were not dungeons left. Sure you got bored after the last 30 hours harvesting vegtables, but you technically could have done that for another 30 hours. I know you did not want too, but that is why you didnt really finish the game, you got bored with the game and found it repetitive. The Game has no end....FACT. but it has a point where you dont enjoy playing it.... for some people that is 150 hours (you), some people 300 hours.... and some people, as mentioned here ...over 700 hours.

Because it is impossible to finish a sandbox game ... the bottom line is the Devs did not tell a lie. Infact if you took this arguement to court, you would lose cause the devs could sight the Radiant quest system, and argue that nobody can finish the game ..... ever.... get bored ... yes .... finish the main quests ..... yes..... finish the game ..... not possible. So tbh you are really argueing a point you cant win. You need to accept you got bored at 150 hours and leave it at that really. But hey if you just fancy a bit of an arguement, then hell.... why not I guess.... :banana:

P.S. I guess your arguement that you have seen most of what Skyrim has to offer by 150 could be true, but again it is hugely situational. I have spent most of my 100 hours around the Whiterun area, so I will have seen far less than someone who has opened up the whole map.... Everyone after all has their own pace.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:21 am

I also very much think that a game like this, is as big as your imagination. When I first started playing I decided that I would never kill Giants or Mammoths. But once I discovered how good Giant toes were for my alchemy potions, things changed. Now I have decided to be a "Mammoth freedom fighter". I spend my time picking off Giants from stealth with a bow, without alerting the Mammoth to the attack. That way they dont attack me. I then wait til the Mammoth moves away, and loot the Giants Bodies. I get good loot, and I tell myself that I am freeing the Mammoths from their Giant captors.

This can be very time consuming, because you need to be very sneaky not to agro the Mammoths themselves, but it can be done. Now my point is, that this can keep me busy for hours, as I travel from Giant camp to Giant camp, whilst pursueing my liberation...... That is what you do when you play a role playing game....You use your imagination, and the world suddenly becomes a lot more fun!

Now that activity alone may add 50 hours to my game, whereas a "Non Mammoth Liberator", would have a completly different experience, and will have spent those 50 hours opening up the map perhaps..... see what I mean....many many variants....You may not have rushed your game... but you didnt go as slowly as perhaps I have... we all play differently, and too me the fact that this game allows that, is what makes it so cool....

IF you do quests one after another, and IF you ignore Radiant (infinate) quests, and IF you dont Roleplay, then YES you can finish the game in 150 hours on one character... sure.... but that is not how you are meant to play this type of game. Lets be honest if Skyrim was an adventure game then 150 would be pretty impressive. But its an RPG Sandbox that can be played til you get fed up playing it....
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