What do you need the other quest lines for that you cannot do without them? I do not see your point. You can play the game without doing any of the quests lines.

Of course she is. You're saying Paarthurnax has no honor, and Sonja's saying she hasn't either. Two of a kind, ain't?

Delphine: arise Darth Dovakin
Dovakin: where is Paarthurnax? we had a nice chat today about fire and the shapes of clouds...
Delphine: it seems that in our anger you killed him
Dovakin: no he was alive! i saw him!
Delphine: nope you killed him and then your morality cased you to uttempt sucide by jumping from the mountain
Dovakin: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! (in dragonesse).

I was not really asking, you know?

realy i acidently started combat with him once so i jumped from the mountain to avoid acidently killing him

Rhetorical questions in a thread of this sort are really pretty useless.... If you don't want people to answer them....?

Ha, another one.

How did you accidentally start a fight up there?

Yah. You see what I did there?

What makes Paarthunax different from any other dragon?

Why should his atrocities be forgiven? If Himmler were to "go into meditation" and then decided he wants to help the people of the world, should he be allowed to do that? I would think the people that were affected by Alduin and he would want him dead.

All dragons have a thirst for power, so what makes you think Paarthunax won't turn to his evil ways again? Also, Odahviing said that not all dragons would follow the way of the voice.

Wonder if it's possible to mod out the quest to kill him so it would be possible to do the Blades quests without being hated by the Greybeards... hm...

Probably.... I'm no modder, I used to write scenarios for people who were doing mods in Morrowind and Oblivion, but that's as far as it goes. And I'm not even really interested in doing that any more.

It is like Google and it answers people's questions.

Just peeked at it in the Creation Kit. Would be easy to mod it out. Delete the quest(and the associated script with it that allows Paarthunax to be killed, sets your relationship to the Blades to be at odds, and removes the player from the Blades faction), and two AI packages that cause Delphine or Esbern to approach the player about the quest in the first place, and poof! No more Paarthunax quest, and the player can continue with the Blades while keeping Paarthunax alive.

(Purpose of deleting the quest itself is to tie up and potential loose ends/oversights. If the quest is somehow still attained, it won't be given after the related dialogue completes.)

first look at the dragons they can fly they can live for just about forever unless they get killed, they have the most powerfull magic around, they are huge and then they see us the small little and weak, its like humans taking animals to the zoo for them! they see humans as lesser beeing as we see animals as lesser beeings its that simple.

if a dragon gets out of that frame of mind and treats humans are equals i think it says alot about his charicter.

realy are you going to blame lions for killing zebra? or cats for eating mice or us humans butchering thousands of cattle for our meat? or the way we treat chikens?

the early relationship of humans and dragons in my opinion was exactly that.

Now that is sad. People demand consequences for their actions in Skyrim, they want quest lines to mean something, they want quests to be non-linear, and more.

And here we are, talking about a simple task, and people want to mod it out, because they cannot rise above it.

sdack.... this game can be all things to all people. Your opinion is no more valid than anyone else's is. Those who mod something so it's more to their taste - well.... what's wrong with that after all?

First, the lion/zebra and cat/mouse example is purely predatory behavior. And yes, I am going to blame us humans for butchering thousands of cattle for our meat and for the way we treat chickens.

In your opinion, does it make it okay that dragons slaughtered nords in the past? If cows and chickens developed a brain that is similar to that of a human, don't you think they'd want revenge for the way they have been treated?

Odahviing states all dragons have a thirst for power. Who says that Paarthunax won't revert to how every other dragon feels?

Think about the timeline. Paarthuraxx had been keeping his bad side away over 5,000 years. I think he knows what he is doing by now.

Post limit, thank goodness after the couple of posts I have just had to delete from it.