I would like to be able to change my hair and war paint throughout the game like in fallout 3, give me red hair too and I will say a little prayer for bethesda every night before sleeping.

Ha, me too - same with weapons as well!

I'm going to do my best to keep this thread alive until those of us that want this feature are noticed by Bethesda. It's still something that's needed for both casual gamers and hardcoe roleplayers alike - not just a barber/warpaint vendor - but entire control over YOUR character's appearance via the character creation menu (as said many times, your race/gender shouldn't be changeable however). At the weekend I decided to make a new character and instead of enjoying the experience, it was a constant dilemma for me - cautiously making my way through a vast number of permanent, untweakable, decisions - which as it turns out, I had to go through several times (and eventually just gave up and settled for what I had). The thing is, creating your character should be an enjoyable, satisfying experience. Not just initially, but 6 months down the line when you know who your character is and look at them. It shouldn't be a miserable one-take deal that 6 months later you look back on and think "I wish I didn't choose that nose"! Please allow us to change our character's appearances Bethesda!

I was surprised when there was no "review your character" option at the end of the tutorial dungeon. I had looked forward to being able to use save/reload to mimic the undo facility common in pretty much any editor out there.

• Not everyone play on the PC.
  
• ShowRaceMenu has issues.
  
• Using console commands break immersion, reminding me that I am playing a game.

true. i dont see why it would be a problem. another tool for help with role-playing... why not. cant see that destroying the series...

I definitely support changing the appearance. Make tattoos tell a story. You'd think after I have defeated Alduin, become the Arch Mage, became the leader of the Companions, assassinated my way to the top of the Guild, and then bedlam'd my way through all of Skyrim I might look a bit differently.

Even more, though, I'd like at least some warpaint for armor. I run around in Dragonscale--plate just looks too goofy--but I want it blacked out. Stealth, man. I'm not the white ninja here. Let me at least color it, if I cannot apply a simple warpaint on it.

I would love to be able to at least change hair, beard, war paint, scar and maybe add a tattoo(like in fable).

I see no reason why you shouldn't be able to change your appearance, to be honest. Especially stuff like hair, warpaint, dirt etc... since it doesn't make much sense to never, ever change, say, your hairstyle.

I can see the objection to physical alterations from a roleplaying perspective, though I understand the OP's point: what looked perfect in the creation screen might not be so perfect after tens or hundreds of hours of play.

Personally, I'd vote for a barber shop for hair, a mirror (in portable and fixed versions) to change makeup and warpaint and such, the option to have weight change depending on food consumed/physical activity and washbasins to remove dirt which returns after some time. Oh, and the option to add a new scar after epic battles

I agree, I deleted a character because I didn't like his nose. It annoyed me so much! Such a feature would be amazing and I would also like a name changer or something...

As with the arguments against a kill-cam toggle, I can't understand why so many killjoys rally against the game having more options. No one wants to change your game, if you think it's perfect the way it is. You can keep it that way after some optional changes get added.

I'm all for the ability to tweak your character's appearance whenever you feel like it. Will it happen? Probably not. The current up-front approach seems to be pretty much set in stone.

Spot on - complete killjoys. I've not heard one decent argument against being able to change your appearance, it just boils down to "I don't want it, I enjoy being restricted/don't need it - and therefore I don't want you to have it either, even though it would have zero effect on me if it did exist". Quite spiteful really.

It would be a shame if it never happened; given that it's an RPG I'd like to think Bethesda would pay more heed to such a fundamental element of roleplaying - that being appearance. I'd be disappointed if ultimately they couldn't be bothered to implement it, it wouldn't effect people who didn't want it and it would make a huge difference to roleplaying/immersion for those who did. And there's a lot of people who want it. What's more, the game mechanics are already in place to include it, in the form of the existing character creation menu - we just need a way to access it again!

Yeah, that would be a worthwhile feature too. In addition to changing your character's appearance as they progress through their story (adding scars, aging them, etc) it would be quite nice to alter your character's name as who they are becomes more defined - ie: titles, marital surnames, or nickname's aquired as they become more famous or notorious throughout Skyrim.

OB let you play a little before deciding if you want your character but it was only at the beginning of the game. Many of you get bored with your character halfway thru the game and want to change them but dont want to restart...try spending more time in character creation before hitting 'done' and you might avoid this problem.

Some of you get bored regardless and expect beth to help you...i would like to change hair and age mid game but im fine with the characters i create

Same here. I think that changing your character's entire face and even skin color after you start the game is not something I'd want, not realistic. But I should be able to change my hair style, makeup and war paint at least.

Maybe not as something as over-the-top as full-blown plastic surgery--*coughsaintsrowcough*--but something like a local coiffure that can change your hairstyles/dirt/war paint. That would be nice. And perhaps you could have region-based hairstyles or war paint that way, too.

Other than that, it would be kind of unrealistic. The people of Tamriel aren't as shallow as we are. Though I suppose if you really wanted to change other features you could sacrifice crap to a Daedra or something.

I've only been here for a day and I've seen this request a few times already. It's definitely a feature that should exist, and I'm sure many would welcome it. I know I would. I literally get stressed in character creation, trying to make my character look exactly right, but sometimes it's hard to tell if I like something or not, and might want to tweak after I develop my character a bit. I like the idea of barbers and paint jars, but I'd wonder how they'd add new shops into the towns specifically for haircuts. Whatever they would do, I'm all for it.

I don't think you should be able to change your race, but i think it would be fine to adjust your facial features and weight.

If the option existed, but you didn't use it, yet it made other people (who's game has absolutely zero connection with yours) happy - would it bother you? As for it not being realistic, what point are you trying to make there? It's a fantasy game. Following your logic it would also be unrealistic to have the ability to choose your looks in the first place.



Again, there's many unrealistic features in the game already; for example being able to run whilst 'carrying' multiple suits of heavy armour and a horde of battleaxes. Being able to enjoy a three course meal during a fight... It's a game.

I'd personally just be happy being able to access to character creation screen again via a menu option, however if it had to be 'justified' in the land of Tamriel as a gameplay feature, then magic would be the obvious way to implement it. Jagar Tharn used magic to impersonate an emporer for many years, therefore being able to change the way you look wouldn't necessarily conflict with the lore, or the possibilities of Tamriel magic.

Oh and my Wood Elf is very shallow where her looks are concerned.


For me personally, it's nothing to do with boredom. I'm not bored of my character's looks; however after 6 month's of play I've realised there's aspects of my appearance which could do with tweaking, which would leave me completely content with my creation. I've spent over four hours on the character creation screen before (most of that time spent away from the screen, coming back, tweaking, going away again etc - so I can see it with fresh eyes). There shouldn't be that emphasis on it being a one-take deal situation, it's not fun to be under the pressure of perfection. What's more people want this as a feature for roleplaying reasons too - adding scars after battles, ageing their characters, perhaps following a character from a scrawny squire all the way up to a legendary hero retired after a lifetime's worth of adventures. There's many reasons people want this, I think it's a lot more about being content, than being bored and fancying a change because they put no effort in from the start.

the answer is simple

magic mirror

Not at all, why would it bother me?



No, that doesn't follows at all. Just because it is a fantasy game it doesn't mean that it is not bound by any rules. Warpaint, like makeup and how you make your hair is something that is not intrinsic to the nature of the character that you create when you start the game. Your character is "born" as one of the different races you can choose and as such it possesses the physical features that are particular to that race, features which you can tweak at the moment of creation but not afterwards. It makes sense within the context of Skyrim that you cannot change your character's physical features whenever you want. But when it comes to the things I mentioned, namely, warpaint, make up and how you do your hair, these are actually extrinsic to the nature of the character and as such it is only reasonable to expect that one should be able to change them at any time.

Yeah, it's a game. Yeah, character creation is cool. Things in Tamriel to get to that point makes more sense for me gameplay-wise and variety-wise than one generic character creation screen.

Being able to open your menu at any point during the game and changing your race and entire appearance kind of kills immersion and one of the allures of an RPG, which I hope Bethesda avoids if they do add this feature. I can understand the gameplay value if, for example, before level 10 or something, you decide that your race isn't compatible with your playstyle. Not everyone plans these things out beforehand, so a second go at character creation once you've got the general gist of the game would be nice. Otherwise, you'd have to do it in a "conventional" way and your race is locked.

Created characters by player =/= general world Bethesda has created at large.

i realized too late that i accidentally gave my character a snub nose and it drives me nuts.. really would like the option to tweak him.

If they really wanted to have a "plastic surgeon" you should have to go to a Hagraven who can alter your appearance. If Bethesda wanted to limit the usage of it, they could include a necessary sacrifice to get plastic surgery, like the sacrifice for the Boethia quest.