Skyrim's Opening svcks! : V - Skyrim

» Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:17 pm

What annoyed me about the opening is why did Alduin attack Helgen in such exact timing in the first place. couldn't find any logical explaination anywhere

» Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:50 pm

How can the Skyrim opening be anything less than epic... man, when I fired up that game, saw the credits appear, heard the music, saw the amazing visuals, I was almost in tears (seriously). I had been waiting for this next installment for SO long... and it felt like coming home.

Having said that, I have plenty things I didn't like about the rest of the game. But the opening scene was SO AMAZING to me. And the tutorial and such wasn't bad either, in Oblivion it took much longer, felt more linear and was less immersive. Can't even compare to Morrowind, but of course that was done so many years ago that it doesn't really matter anyway.

To each his own I guess.

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:32 am

What annoyed me about the opening is why did Alduin attack Helgen in such exact timing in the first place. couldn't find any logical explaination anywhere

That's where you're thinking wrong in my opinion. It wasn't any coincidence, you just happened to be there. All those other people that probably got executed in the time before weren't as lucky as you were, but it's hardly a coincidence that SOMEONE was. You just happen to play that someone in this game.

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:45 am

Morrowind's chargen was a lot more immersive that's for sure.

» Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:54 pm

Before you start this is not a troll thread but a legitimate discussion on the flaws of the set pieces and storytelling within Skyrim.

Yeah just saw this on Penny Arcade and felt that it pretty much sums up my feeling on the subject so I thought I might post it here and see what the opinion is of everyone else on these forums.

http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/skyrims-opening

I also feel that I should point out that it is not just the opening that suffers in this aspect but most of the set pieces in the game and even the game world as a whole. Quite frankly this is something I do feel is a bit disappointing as the team at Bethesda have the resources to create an epic game but always seem to fall short of the mark.

To illustrate my point lets take a look at what was arguably the most epic battle in Oblivion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC4cl1Bvssk

Does anyone else see a problem with this battle? Now I dont know if this is due to the scale of the world or whether the team at bethesda is simply incompetent at creating epic set pieces but that scene leaves a lot to be desired. While you could argue the battles have been improved in Skyrim they really arent that much better, even the funeral of a certain individual or the betrayal of another certain individual (both of which will not be named due to spoileriffic reasons) falls flat on its face as we never actually get to know these characters enough to actually care about them.

Even the game world fails to convey that epic fantasy world feeling, sure the playable area is big but considering that it is supposed to represent an entire province the end result is a world that feels tiny, too much crammed into such a small space and the world feels more like a theme park rather than an epic fantasy world and because so much needs to fit in such a small space major locations need to be scaled down to fit. Solitude feels more like a small walled off village than the sprawling city described in the lore, Markarth feels more like a small fort and the 7000 steps to High Hrothgar becomes the 900 and something steps.

I think the opening is very good.
One of the great things about the game.

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:07 am

What annoyed me about the opening is why did Alduin attack Helgen in such exact timing in the first place. couldn't find any logical explaination anywhere

If memory serves me well, either ESban or one of the Greybeards mentioned something along the lines of the Universe spawning a Dragonborn whenever Alduin begun a new cycle of destruction.

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:31 am

What annoyed me about the opening is why did Alduin attack Helgen in such exact timing in the first place. couldn't find any logical explaination anywhere

Ulfric grunts moments before it shows up. coincidence? he could have used a shout in my opinion.

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:42 am

The opening doesn't just feel immersive, it is immersive.

» Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:06 pm

The opening doesn't just feel immersive, it is immersive.

On the contrary, I found it like a COD piece, tightly scripted, and dully predictable.

» Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:11 pm

that video was the nerdiest geekiest most painful thing to watch ever. sersly. *snort* thith ith why thkyrim ith tho bad gnieeeeh *snort*

i hate nerds so much
im a fantasy geek, im purdy good at maths
i know mad [censored] that people say is wrong
but im not a nerd nerds are evil they live to cast darkness over other people they want everyone to only do what they do like what they like be as good at math as they are. they stop at nothing, they are like cancer, and they ruin things. they think they own skyrim. they think they own tes. the farther it gets from D&D they mor they rage their nerd rage and pop pimple bombs mane I can't take it liek for real bro why the [censored] man the intro is like 15 minutes why are you complaining. This is really important? [censored] came out like 2 months ago bro maybe more and you're still here posting a giant wihining post abot the intrah? whaaaat? how long it take you bro maybe its not so bad huh but this needs to stop saurons forces are irl and coming to hurt you and make you retreat its bib bang theory loving horde evil maybe agents matrix you know the deal [censored] RUN!!!!

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:37 am

On the contrary, I found it like a COD piece, tightly scripted, and dully predictable.

Really. That's good for you.

» Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:08 pm

Eh, it didn't effect me either way, it just get boring if you plan to make multiple characters because it's unskipable and drags on for so long.

» Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:36 pm

What annoyed me about the opening is why did Alduin attack Helgen in such exact timing in the first place. couldn't find any logical explaination anywhere

HE SENSES HIS KIN IN DANGER THEN SHOWS UP AND IS LIKE WTF THERES NO DRAGON WHO THE [censored] IS THIS LITTLE [censored] OK WELL NOW THAT I'M HERE...BURNINATE

» Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:34 pm

Really. That's good for you.

Yup. It shows I understand when a game plays to its strengths and when it does not.

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:55 am

Yup. It shows I understand when a game plays to its strengths and when it does not.

ur a nerd here have some coins nerd into the pit with you i want to see a good fight

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:35 am

ur a nerd here have some coins nerd into the pit with you i want to see a good fight

What? Lol.

I'm not having a go at skyrim, just saying the intro really wasn't one of TES's best strengths.

Btw, I've never played D&D, I don't know where you get nerd from.
If it makes me a nerd to be attentive to art forms, storytelling and narrative then I guess I am a nerd, and I'm proud to be one if that is your definition.

I'm also a film noir nerd, blues music nerd, all kinds and I suspect you are in some ways.

PS. The people that go around calling people nerds are usually closeted hentai loving nerds, from experience on looking up the youtube channels of trolls ;-)

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:22 am

I call BS on the above statement. if you intended a "legitimate discussion" you would have presented it like a legitimate discussion. Instead you made a thrread title that indicates no room for discussion, and then you try to sell me a bill of goods about how this discussion isn't supposed to have bias.

You fail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect 200 dollars, and please, try better to fool me next time.

Another lamentable post.
So what would you rather have him write?

?Skyrim opening svcks/ Skyrim opening rocks/ Skyrim opeining is comme ci comme ?a?
Please.
Everyone and anyone reading the thread title will instantly gather the author is expressing an opinion and opening himself for debate.

So it is me who calls BS on your post above, while, at the same time, finding SKyrim opeining one of the great things the game has to offer.