Practice Gambling Skills Before New Vegas

Post » Thu May 26, 2011 3:01 pm

I've seen a lot of people asking how to play Blackjack or roulette so I thought you guys might want to practice your gambling skills and knowledge before New Vegas. I will list a bunch of videos on slots, blackjack, and roulette. If you can find a reliable source for online slots please tell me and I'll edit the OP. So here are some tutorials, free games, etc. :fallout:

BlackJack

http://www.777.com/play-blackjack.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItzBTX8r87A


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzcL10ONwWU

Slot Machines

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wkubf1PrWg

Fell free to show us a reliable free online slots game

Roulette

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-kk74dvBus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sDBCqSQigY&feature=related


http://www.777.com/play-roulette.html

Caravan

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/111/1119257p1.html
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Robert Jr
 
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 12:20 pm

Very nice. You would never have thought slots were so complicated.
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casey macmillan
 
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 5:32 am

OMG caravan rules, thx alot.
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Davorah Katz
 
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 7:04 pm

Really? The 'rules' of caravan as depicted in that article aren't very easy at all.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 6:57 pm

OMG caravan rules, thx alot.


I find their rules on Caravan to have many holes on how it works. but I'm sure I will understand it better when it's in the game. But for now I even like SLOTS more, and that's saying a lot.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 12:59 pm

Ya its abit confusing. Ill need to play a few hands to figure it out. I realy wanted to see the rules though. Im not a fan of the other games. I wish they would have added holdem instead. Oh well at least I can kill everyone in the casinos out of spite.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 5:24 pm

Yeah, I've been playing the Blackjack one off and on since last night.

I'm more fond of the game than I thought I might be so I might be doing alot more gambling than I initially intended to in New Vegas.

Thanks again, Lucky.
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Tiffany Holmes
 
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 6:42 am

Blackjack for me......I will break the bank...
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 1:40 pm

Yeah, I've been playing the Blackjack one off and on since last night.

I'm more fond of the game than I thought I might be so I might be doing alot more gambling than I initially intended to in New Vegas.

Thanks again, Lucky.


No problem Doc. Go ahead and try out the Roulette game too, you make less money then BJ but more then slots. It's a good little side game when you get bored of BJ. Slots is when you're bored out of your mind, don't mind losing a small fortune, and like to see pretty little symbols. Maybe with a 10 Luck it will be more fun but I would still avoid slots unless you just want to see each casinos little icons.

Glad you're enjoying BJ.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 12:47 pm

Thanks for these. I'm already good on blackjack slots and roulette but the caravan one was very helpful :goodjob:
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 8:12 pm

Great guide, I'm sure plenty here have never gambled and appreciate the FAQs.

Though I have to point out, that slots guide won't be very consistent, since Obsidian's developers don't have to abide by the Nevada Gaming regulations, they could write the odds algorithm however they wanted to :tops:
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 10:24 am

Thanks for these. I'm already good on blackjack slots and roulette but the caravan one was very helpful :goodjob:


Thanks, also, you might want to watch the one on slots anyway. I thought I knew a lot about them but that video was very informative.

Great guide, I'm sure plenty here have never gambled and appreciate the FAQs.

Though I have to point out, that slots guide won't be very consistent, since Obsidian's developers don't have to abide by the Nevada Gaming regulations, they could write the odds algorithm however they wanted to


True, but I thought they might like to learn about slots in real life too. All this stuff is subject to Obsidian's "changes". Of course Slots are easy just pull a lever and hope you win but I thought maybe some people might like to know how modern machines work. I think the old ones are cooler because the lever pulls the mechanisms to make the thing spin.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 4:12 pm

True, but I thought they might like to learn about slots in real life too.


Ah gotcha, well it's a great video anyway, I had always believed those myths about building odds (ie the Gambler's Fallacy) and "premium" machines being placed near the entrance. That's a must-see for anyone who dabbles in RL slots.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 12:03 pm

Thanks. Very helpful.

i think I'm going to be spending way too much time in the casinos.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 2:09 pm

Yeah.. Caravan doesn't make much sense yet.. Hopefully it's just a badly written article.. of course like any game once you start playing and learn the rules you can make up your own strategy..
my strategies for the other games are just safe playing strategies... When betting I choose a set amount.. Say 15 dollars. If I win anything I put the rest of the 15 away and only play with the winnings.. If I don't win I only lose 15 dollars.
With black jack I play on anything under 17 and with Roulette I bet on black/red, or Odd/Even, . I choose a color (or odd/even) and stick to it.. placing the minimum bet each time. I've never won big but I've never lost.. My biggest win was 140 dollars.. I've only been to casino's three times though and I'm not big on gambling. Who knows what would have happened if I kept playing but after a bit I become afraid of losing what I've won so I just stop gambling.
The best things about video games though is that you can save and re-load.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 1:36 pm

Thanks. Very helpful.

i think I'm going to be spending way too much time in the casinos.


I'm in the same boat. All I can think about is hanging around playing BJ and Roulette in the Ultra Luxe, Tops, and Gomorrah. :disguise:

The best things about video games though is that you can save and re-load.


I agree, I'm always afraid I'll lose money but I love playing the game. That's why I play free games online but now I have NV to do that :celebration:
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 9:52 am

In the roulette game I bet 300$ on 32 red and won. got $10500 :P
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 10:49 am

In the roulette game I bet 300$ on 32 red and won. got $10500 :P


Darn! Wouldn't you have liked that in real life? haha

Most I ever made on those BJ and Roulette games was $2,000 :sadvaultboy:
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 3:53 pm

Dude thanks for this thread that is the best video ive seen for learning how to play Blackjack foor sure, it really isn't that complicated ill just haft to practice a bit

EDIT: Ok so I played my first game of Blackjack EVER on the practice site he link and its way easier then i thought lol. I think you start with $950 and I am up $600 right now daamn son defenitly rolling a high luck character next play through for sure. I am not a gambler, ive played poker but thats about it.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 4:15 pm

Blackjack is extremely easy to play, its all about odds and luck. That game will probably get me kicked out of the casinos :celebration:
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 11:22 am

Dude thanks for this thread that is the best video ive seen for learning how to play Blackjack foor sure, it really isn't that complicated ill just haft to practice a bit


That's ok everybody does, just click the link to free BJ I have in there and you'll be winning unreal dough in no time.

That game will probably get me kicked out of the casinos


That's why I'm gonna play some Roulette in between (possibly slots if it's bad) because if I just sat and played BJ I would get kicked in no time. I want to stay in casinos and keep playing so I don't want to get banned unless I save and I'm going for the trophy.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 8:51 am

Did we figure out yet if you can come back or not once you get banned? I mean im sure that you can but not sure how

Edit: Yea the how to win at BJ vid is defenitly legitimmate :], I don't mind if I get banned from all the Casino's with my high luck character if I make a lot of dough doing it.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 8:34 am



Darn! Wouldn't you have liked that in real life? haha

Most I ever made on those BJ and Roulette games was $2,000 :sadvaultboy:

I've made it my personal goal to get to $3,000 before New Vegas arrives but around $2,500 seems to be my general ceiling at the moment.

Thankfully there will be the luck stat in Fallout to help even the odds.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 6:11 pm

Did we figure out yet if you can come back or not once you get banned? I mean im sure that you can but not sure how

Edit: Yea the how to win at BJ vid is defenitly legitimmate :]


Well it is confirmed at The Tops the manager says in a video that you can enjoy the shows and the bar but you can not play the games. We don't know about the Ultra Luxe and Gomorrah though.

Definitely hoping I won't get banned

Thankfully there will be the luck stat in Fallout to help even the odds.


I agree, I've figured out how to get a 10 Luck without hurting my other stats too much on the FO3 character creator already. If I'm gonna spend all the time in casinos I think I will then I'm gonna need it.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 8:31 pm

Soooo, since i wrote a whole ton on this and i don't want to write it again i will copy pasta my blackjack tips, and i am glad to answer questions:
Well there is what is called Basic Strategy and it is basic guidelines you generally follow except under basic circumstances for example if you don't know what the count is and you have 16 and the dealer is showing a seven, you hit statically you will come out winning more frequently than staying on 16. Many casinos will only allow to double down on ten or eleven. When you double down you must be on your first two cards and you are saying you will take one more card and double your bet. You can "double for less" meaning you increase your bet by any amount less than your original bet.
There are things which are wise to split no matter what like always splitting aces and eights starting separate hands. It is generally a bad idea to split tens but when counting cards but when it is a high count it is a good idea to split to a dealers 5 or 6.
If you are decent at counting cards your strategy changes. If the dealer is showing a five or a six and your hand is 7 (a three and a four for example) but you know the deck is hot (more high cards than low card) you would double down because the dealer has a high probability of busting since his other card is likely a ten and he is very likely to get another.
There is also something called insurance, when the dealer shows an ace as his up card you are offered insurance where you bet that the down card is a value of ten, if the down card is not a ten you lose your insurance and the hand plays out as usual. If you are dealt a blackjack when the dealer shows an ace you can take even money or hold out saying the dealer doesn't have it, if he does you don't win anything. Insurance is usually a way to spot people who aren't experienced gamblers, unless you are counting cards insurance is ALWAYS a bad idea. If it is a hot deck (particularly on single deck games) there is an increased probability of a blackjack and therefore you might take insurance to hedge your previous bet.
This is all very basic stuff more advanced stuff requires some math >.>

and my second reply in the same thread
A pen and paper is pretty useless in counting cards just so you know...
Counting cards doesn't improve the amount of hands you win by a great deal it only reflects the value of cards remaining to be played. An often overlooked aspect of card counting is that when you have a higher probability to get a blackjack the dealer does as well. For this reason basic strategy is vital. A very very basic counting system called a Running Count or a High Low system is very easy to master, cards 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 (these cards are called bandits) are given a value of plus one 7, 8, 9, are given a value of zero while 10's and 11's (aces) have a value of negative one; so, if you start with a full deck you would start on zero and end at zero.
So, say you are playing blackjack at a table with a single deck (pretty popular in Vegas) you have been taking the small bleed for fourty minutes (betting the table minimum) at two dollars a hand, if you follow basic strategy you should be just slightly under even. Now assume it is just you and the dealer, and finally you get a hot deck, half the deck is gone and the count is plus five (five more tens than bandits) you lay down fifty bucks and get a 20 while the dealer is showing a seven, the count is now plus three you split tens to the dealers seven given that you have a strong chance of getting a better card and a high probability of the dealer standing on 17 (dealers have to stand on 17 unless it is soft 17). One hand gets an ace (blackjack) and the other and eight the dealer flips a ten and you have just won 125 dollars. About now is when you change tables, pit bosses keep track of your wins and losses but they really don't like it when you win consistently at a single table and you don't typically want to stay in a casino more than an hour and half. Card counting is not a long haul game, it is a hit and RUN game. Over long term, card counting only increases your sustainable winnings by about two percent, long term play at a table with basic strategy that leaves your optimum chances at about 53% so it isn't like counting helps you win, it tells you when you are most likely to get dealt a winning hand.
I should also note that is a very simple counting system and while it can help to some degree more advanced systems are going to help a lot more, at the very least a High Low counter should keep track of how many aces have been dealt. The movie mentioned earlier 21 is based on a book titled Bringing Down The House which was advertised as non fiction even though many of the characters and events were fictional. Although it is true that MIT students did make a fair deal of money on the Vegas strip, the teacher ring leader, and pit bosses stealing chips, and strippers cashing chips is not factual. There seems to be this myth about counting having something to do with being good with numbers and television perpetuates it. Card counting is a memory and association game Edward Thorpe, a mathematician set up the system seen in the movie 21 His system was very complex and difficult to learn given that virtually every given card had a different value. In the movie Rain Man the player is able to beat the casino because he is a savant (meaning he has absolute memory recall) so he could always say how many of any card was left in the deck.
If you are serious about wanting to play blackjack i am a big proponent of the Omega II counting system Which is: (1,2)+1 (5,6)+2 (7)+1 (8)0 (9)?1 (10)?2 (11)0 but unless you know how card counting affects basic strategy and probability it is pointless, so get some books and some cards and practice A LOT and i'm not talking an hour or ten hours i'm talking like forty hours before you even try playing at a casino and you will still lose for quite some time until it becomes second nature.

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