race of the dragonborn : V

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:43 am

i was wondering, would it makes sence for mer and beast races to be dragon born? it just seems strange to see an elf or argonian to be the dragonborn.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:17 pm

It would make sense, I'm not sure why you think they can't be dragonborn. Just because the Dovahkiin in the trailer is a Nord doesn't mean all dragonborns are.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:43 pm

Not really, dragon born doesn't mean a dragon was a part of your conception (that's a funny image) it just means that you are given a gift from the gods to learn shouts more easily and kill dragons.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:40 pm

The Dragonborn can be ANYONE. They showed that very well.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:09 pm

Being dragonborn is being born with the soul of a dragon. While it culturally have been limited to be of major importance to the Nords and Imperials, all races makes sense as a dragonborn since it is Akatosh who decides who becomes one.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:23 am

im not saying they cant, im saying it just seems fairly uncommon and different to see mer and beast races with the gift that is found on men

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:03 pm

but i bet in the actual lore he will probably be nord. unless they do it like the neverine in morrowind. but the dragonborn is bigger then the neverine in my opinion. he has to conquer tamerial form an empire and be a major figurehead.so hell probably be a nord in the end though. just my opinion

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:36 am

Technically speaking, anyone can be a Dragonborn, since the gift is given from Akatosh, and it basically means someone born with the soul of a dragon.

Skyrim, however, seems to be written primarily for a Nord player in mind (although there's wacky hijinks you can pull in the Thalmor Embassy if you're a High Elf/Altmer, and there's some style points for an Argonian dragonborn.)

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:10 pm

im not saying they cant, im saying it just seems fairly uncommon and different to see mer and beast races with the gift that is found on men

I think "a gift to (hu)man" isn't an accurate description. I think it is more of a "gift to mortals", which would also make sense since dragons are technically immortal unless killed by a dragonborn or another dragon.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:54 pm

The dragonborn gift should only be for the human races. Not the filthy beasts. Or the altmer and orcs. My one dunmer build was awesome so I have no qualms with them. I wouldn't care as much about this if in TES lore there was one. But where is that proof?

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:23 pm

well when i was looking at the tail of my argonian dragonborn i always thought: "man, who could be more dragonborn when someone with such a tail?"

but the game is made for a nord dragonborn.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:36 pm

There are tons of Dovahkin whose race is completely unknown. If you don't know them all, how can you say that they were all humans?

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:18 am

There are tons of Dovahkin whose race is completely unknown. If you don't know them all, how can you say that they were all humans?

im not saying they are all human it is just more talked about than other races

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:57 pm

This is the one very large aspect I hate about Skyrim. It's written with a Nord player in mind, it even goes as far as to make you feel not right if you choose to be any other race. You don't feel as through you fit in with the Dragonborn plot if you're playing a RedGuard or a Altmer.

I never had that feeling while playing Oblivion, it's a real shame.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:18 pm

This is the one very large aspect I hate about Skyrim. It's written with a Nord player in mind, it even goes as far as to make you feel not right if you choose to be any other race. You don't feel as through you fit in with the Dragonborn plot if you're playing a RedGuard or a Altmer.

I never had that feeling while playing Oblivion, it's a real shame.

thats why u prove the of world tamerial wrong that u are the true dragonborn no matter what race.just like in morrowind the ashlanders didnt think u were the neverine so u had to prove it to them. and in the end, they accepted u no matter what race. same thing here

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:18 pm

Really? This again?

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:32 pm

Really? This again?

if you don't like it then don't join in

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:34 am

considering that dragon 'blood' is a gift bestowed by the gods, it makes sense for any race to be one
it isnt a strictly inherited trait, even though it can be passed down like it was in the septim line

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:57 pm

Really? This again?

? this thread is rare compared to civil war threads.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:14 pm

but i bet in the actual lore he will probably be nord. unless they do it like the neverine in morrowind. but the dragonborn is bigger then the neverine in my opinion. he has to conquer tamerial form an empire and be a major figurehead.so hell probably be a nord in the end though. just my opinion

In the actual lore the Dragonborn's race/gender etc. etc. will not be known.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:55 am

This is the one very large aspect I hate about Skyrim. It's written with a Nord player in mind, it even goes as far as to make you feel not right if you choose to be any other race. You don't feel as through you fit in with the Dragonborn plot if you're playing a RedGuard or a Altmer.

I never had that feeling while playing Oblivion, it's a real shame.

How is the game written for a Nord player character? My first character was a Nord, and I enjoyed it because I enjoyed getting into the whole Viking thing, but I can't see how any other race is made to feel they don't fit in the game.

You could say they're somewhat alien to Skyrim the country, sure, but then they are somewhat alien, just as everybody except Dark Elves are somewhat alien to Morrowind, and so forth. Most games are gonna have a majority of the characters be human anyway, because the fantasy races should be somewhat exotic.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:36 am

How is the game written for a Nord player character? My first character was a Nord, and I enjoyed it because I enjoyed getting into the whole Viking thing, but I can't see how any other race is made to feel they don't fit in the game.

You could say they're somewhat alien to Skyrim the country, sure, but then they are somewhat alien, just as everybody except Dark Elves are somewhat alien to Morrowind, and so forth. Most games are gonna have a majority of the characters be human anyway, because the fantasy races should be somewhat exotic.

as a cat you can freely walk through towns.. no matter what.

play dunmer. go windhelm. especially talk to rolf and have him making hate speeches about dunmer completely ignoring what you are.

play a mage, ask in inns where you can learn magic and get insulted 90% of the time.

maybe you have to play more, but for me it is pretty obvious and i have over 600 hours in. my examples are actually quiet bad, because the real hints are way more random.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:15 am

A sload dovahkiin. O.o

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:23 pm

This is the one very large aspect I hate about Skyrim. It's written with a Nord player in mind, it even goes as far as to make you feel not right if you choose to be any other race. You don't feel as through you fit in with the Dragonborn plot if you're playing a RedGuard or a Altmer.

I never had that feeling while playing Oblivion, it's a real shame.

Maybe that's the whole "Skyrim is the homeland of the Nords" thing?
With the whole civil war going on, I'd be surprised if the land's major race WASN'T favored.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:46 pm

if you don't like it then don't join in

I withdraw my comment, but only because I can see potential for comic value.

A Hist Dragonborn :blink: