Because Skyrim had none of those...

I don't think radiant quests have ever been presented as substitutes for proper quests. The idea was that they would fill the world out a bit more. Now, it may be that because of their nature they fail to do that. But what you're saying here is like saying you hate Ketchup because it's not Soup.

I like the idea. Sometimes they can feel a little "gamey", but if you're using them to get something you already know you'll get (as with the OP), then they're going to feel more like that. Sure, they could be improved - I'd like to see more ways into a house, for example, for thieving, so the stealth missions could be tackled in a variety of ways.

*high five*

Well yeah.... its annoys me as well, no way around it unless you mod or reload.

I just wish the random quests wouldn't give you conflicting things.

My latest character (who, in the interest of being different than the last, isn't a fighter and isn't planning to join the Companions) got the Shalidor's Insights quest from the Mage guild..... and the random dungeon it directs me to is one of the quest-locked ones. The one that you have to join the Companions to access.

OT: What patch are you on..? These things were supposed to be patched out (rndm quest items spwans in quest locations)
1.3 to be exact

Thanks, I'll be getting this mod.

Radiant quests are probably my biggest pet peeve in Skyrim. The fact that they thought they'd replace written out quests. Just bothers me to the fullest extent.

Radiant quests are amazing. They allow me to play forever. Well done Beth.

On patch 1.5. And this is a character that I only started after 1.4 or 1.5.

It is interesting to see this kind of response after reading 20,000 other rants about how the quest system/map "handholds you" to and through a quest.

Which is it? Too vague or too descriptive?

Radiant quest targets could use a bit of work...

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The game provides markers and compass that lead you directly to the target, no room for failure, no feeling of having found it yourself. If you turn off the markers it does not provide you with enough description to get on with it. Morrowind did, and allowed room for failure, and success. When you found something in Morrowind, you felt like you had done something. In Skyrim, if you leave the markers on, you feel like your hand is being held, if you turn them off, you are given no description of where to find it. That is why it is both too vague and too descriptive.

*ahem* they were presented as substitutes for proper quests, they tried to make every guild quest in the game radient and failed at the last second so they had to remake them (least ways, thats what i heard on the forum and it would explain a bit), that is why the guilds are so unbelievably short and skip most of the parts of a good story (intorduction, building suspense, climix, falling action and resolution, whiel skyrim does have all o them most of them are only 1 or 2 quests long when they shoud make up a very large part of he story)

The answer is: perpetually unhappy.

No, the answer is that the quest descriptions are too vague, which means you have to use the absolutely accurate quest arrow to complete quests.

I love radiant quests. There is absolutely nothing like killing the person you killed two quests ago that was resurrected where you left their corpse rotting or stealing the jeweled goblet for the fifteenth time. They become super spectacularly awesome when you are sent to slaughter a dungeon full of bandits that were already slaughtered breaking the scripted quest line.

Everything about the questlines and structure in Skyrim is broken.

It would have to be one of the LEAST rewarding games to play through. There is no development in any questline and even less sense of fulfillment.
Seriously, I got more sense of accomplishment watching Martin fight Mehrunes Dagon then I did killing the world eater in four hits at level 12.

WTF is going on with that?

Anyone else have this issue... This should really have been patched and certainly should not happen anymore...
(I have heard others having this issue as well, me myself never have encountered "this specific bug")
Sorry I don't have a solution.

Yep, I got sent to that Dwemer ruin that you can only enter duing the TG quest, was supposed to kill a heap of bandits. Pitty for some spastic reason they were also counting bandits INSIDE the ruin....

I cancelled the quests instead of reloading a save, so I have -17 in Thieves Guild quests.

Failing a quest gives you -1 in quests completeted? What a miss from Beth!

Agree, it was awful to have to do 5 of these boring quests in each city before the real Guild Leader-requirement quests became available.

And to make it worse, it wasn't explained at all. I discovered it first after having read about it on UESP wiki.

I'd be okay with that if they had stopped after you become Guild Leader - but no, you still "better not make trouble", should know that "these jobs aren't going to finish themselves" and must be reminded that "it's one thing to say you've got the skills to be a thief - it's another to actually use them".

Love the radiant quest. Keeps the game alive. The Thives Guild part takes a litte time but that just adds to the RP of returning the guild to its glory through hard work.

so you like generic, cut and paste, unintelligent, uncreative, repetitive, meaningless tasks?

i'll take no radiants, less quests and more meaningful, 'handcrafted' quests.

I don't recall any Daggerfall radiant quests being dependant on a set number per location to advance in a guild. Which apparently skyrim has, so while the intention was to give players something to do, it seems to have it's flaws.

Constantly reloading to get a location so you can progress is a valid complaint, so is reloading because of an inaccessible location, as is having your figures screwed up if you decide to decline instead of reloading because of these reasons.

They're not amatuers, there is no excuse for this type of thing. They're doing great with building worlds they just need to lift their game with quests. I wish all of their quests could have been of the same standard as the Dark Brotherhood quest in Oblivion, which is one of the best I've ever played through. Although there was that werewolf cure one from Daggerfall which for it's time was pretty mean.

I love their games but I keep hoping they'll do better with the next one.

I've just completed all the radiant quests for Thieves' Guild and done all the special missions from Delvin. I didn't find it too boring or time consuming really. If you don't get the city you want, you can either reload a save and speak to Vex or Delvin again for a different result, or you can simply tell them you want to quit the quest they gave you, then request a new one. Rinse and repeat until you get the city you want. Also, to save time I would take a burglary or heist quest from Vex, then take a bedlam job from Delvin in the same city. Once you complete Vex's requirement, Delvins objective will automatically complete at the same time. 2 birds, 1 stone.

Also, although I haven't tested this extensively, I think that the initial dialogue you hear when being offered the quest is unique to the city where the quest is located. This should allow you to either accept or turn down the mission according to what Vex or Delvin say when you enquire about it.

Not rly the Radiant Quest fault.. More of Luck's fault.

I personally love Radiant Quests.

You do know that they added Radiant Quests? They didn't replace anything. There are still a lot of written out quests in Skyrim.