At first I didn't really mind the radiant quests, but ever since trying to 'Restore the Guild' they're really starting to piss me the [censored]! All i need to do is finish TWO freeking jobs for Markarth to be done with 'restoring the guild'. Been sitting here literally for two [censored] quitting jobs and retaking the same burglary/larceny jobs and not ONE gfdgfgfgfgdgfghjh time has a Markarth job popped up. [censored] Radiant quests Makes me want to smack the taste out of Delvin and Vex's mouth when they get lippy about quitting the 50th whiterun job

I just quicksave before asking for a job, and load if it's the wrong location. Bu i agree, i've never "finished" the Thieves Guild just because of that.

Its maddening Lol Once you've done a 'special job' for one of the four cities that city should automatically be locked out instead of going through possibly hundreds of jobs until you get the specific city you'd like, so annoying when you just need 1-2 jobs to finish off a city. And why in gods name do they even include Riften into the jobs? They don't give you a special Riften job to do so they're all pretty much a waste of time.

Something else about the thieves guild that really grinds my gears, they all constantly gripe and complain about doing jobs to make them more coin, yet you're the ONLY member of the guild actually doing anything while they sit on their asses 24/7 in the flaggon doing nothing while ONE member of the guild does ALL the work.

My main complaint with the thieves guild is I wish there was a way to thwart/work against them, like you can the Dark Brotherhood. Not Kill them all necessarily but at least bring them to justice. I'm playing my mage as a good person she should have an option to put help stop them.

Totally agree, you should be able to wipe them out just like the Dark brotherhood. Whats also annoying if you don't want to join the thieves guild Brynjolf hounds you like a crackhead in Riften until you talk to him.

If your playing on PC you can use the mod Localized Guild Jobs on the Steam Workshop or Nexus Mods. You will then be able to choose which city you take a job in. Been using it a couple weeks now and it's great.

I actually had a negative number in the stats screen from quitting so many jobs. This mod prevented that as well.

Radiant Quests, for me, did absolutely nothing to actually extend the life of the guild.

I thought it was stupid how that was the requirement for becoming Guild Leader. It wasn't even explained. And the way it worked was really bad. The Thieve's Guild quest line was great up to that point. The whole radiant quest deal is a total failure as far as I'm concerned. They are so repetitive that I never do any of them except that time where I was forced to if I wanted to be Guild leader.

It's true, a lot of them are pretty boring. I also don't like how they don't have a description in the journal, just super-vague instructions and sometimes no marker.

I have to find a Dwemer Puzzle Cube? How about telling me what ruin to look in!?

(On the flip side, I'm making a mod that uses Radiant Story in a way that's a little bit more interesting!)

I like the idea that the goal of certain quest can be at different locations, but I do not like what amounts to random quest generation.

radiant quest are not implemented well.

OP- just save right before you ask. reload until you get the cities you want. it only takes a few tries.

If the solution was that simple I would not be here on the forums complaining LOL Literally took me 2hours of save reloads to finally get the last city needed, and I'm on 360 so mods aren't an option :3

Why bother saving and reloading? Just turn the job down as soon as they offer it and then ask again. They don't care even though they comment like they do. It makes no difference at all. Reloading takes too long compared to just dropping the job and asking again.

my first playthrough i didn't but my 3rd i actually sat there for like 2 or 3 days before i finally finished them all

No wonder, the load times on the Xbox are probably five times as long as those on PC.
>.<

They really need to either completely refine the radiant quest system, or scrap it. If I wanted to do MMORPG style quests, I'd be playing an MMORPG to do them.

There were random quests in both Arena and Daggerfall, years before MMOs arrived, so saying they are MMORPG style quests is a bit misleading. Personally I welcome the radiant quest system, and think it was awesome to see it return. Mixing both unique quests and random quests is the way TES been in the past, and I feel the way it should continue to walk.

Not to mention that the random quests are optional, for those who wants to do something more, and by no means required. So if you don't like them, you don't have to do them.Well, except for this one Thieves Guild thing

To me, the radiant quests are just something to continue on with the guilds. That's something that annoys me about Oblivion - I become Arch-Mage of the Mage's guild and thats it, game over, no quests left. Skyrim makes up with that - you have the 'aftershock' to deal with, but it's only started if you ask Tolfdir about it. In the Thieves Guild you have the jobs to do. In the Dark Brotherhood you have the radiant contracts. They're not meant to be compared to 'proper' quests, but they give you something to do every once in a while.

Besides, they're completely optional. If you don't like them, then just don't do them!

I think radiant quests are somewhat fine. They could have some depth in them, but other than that they are alright.

The problem with quests in general is that everything is frontloaded to you. You reach the best stories in the game immediately and then after those are done, you're left with exactly that feeling of doing randomized content that contributes into nothing and rewards nothing.

So to fix the problems with radiants, they need to look at fixing the supporting gameplay structures like economy, character progression and pacing (not frontloading the best stories and rewards to you immediately, but gradually over time depending on some arbitary alignment/reputation system.)

I think this depends entirely upon how you play the game.

The thing is: Since every quest-line is, arguably, rather short.. In the guild quests they are sort of obligatory to get the same mileage out of the guilds as let's say morrowind or oblivion. I know this is not true.. because they are endless giving one even more mileage..
But since they are repetetive and for the most part clear x fetch y.. it doesn't add flavor, except for the first 2-3 maybe, or depth. Making it bland additions to imho disappointingly short quest-lines..

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=14509

Hah, i knew there was, or would be, a mod for that. I love modders

I hate radient quests. I hate them double as they're a substitute for propper, written quests.

Because then you end up with like 130 failed quests in your quest log and some people don't like that.