My Bosmer Thief has disease immunity already, she found a neclace with 50% disease resistance. Wood Elves already have 50% so now she has 100% resistance to disease.

Well, you don't get the 10% Well Rested bonus, but I forget to sleep and reset it, anyway. I was pretty good about sleeping in Fallout 3, but here I kept forgetting.

OK, thanks, good to know.
Yeah, she was heinous - I snuck and listened to her for a few seconds...she had to go. o.O

I also backed out of the quest line on my first character, whom I was playing as a "true Nord." It's a tough choice, and so is becoming a Nightingale. I would have preferred a branching story line. Maybe they felt like the DB shouldn't be the only guild that has to sell its soul for power.

Would a true Nord allow children to be abused? Now, get in there!

There is a lot more to it than that. Besides I play with lots of limitations and never try to power game becoming demi-god of all. To me it's more fun to play a more realistic character, and believe it or not, some characters are not too keen on the idea of being a werewolf.

I don't know what you're talking about- haven't done the quest line, so don't spoil me please.

A true Nord wouldn't want to become Hircine's [censored].

Yes. You can use Fury or Frenzy to murder most of them (sneak while you cast the spell), and the higher level ones have dialogue options to provoke them into assaulting you. Self-defense doesn't count as "murder". I finished the DB questline with 0 murders in my stats, but I did get the obligatory scripted bounty.

So, Aela isn't a true Nord?

It might be fine for some Nords. I hate the fact that the WW in Skyrim is more like a Perk than an curse like it was in Bloodmoon.

I think it would have been a lot better story if while you were helping the companions you discover that they are cursed and they are seeking help. During the quests to help them you can get cursed also, or you can just cure them without being cursed. In the end they are all thankful and offer you a high position in their ranks.

Well, you can't.. There is loads of stuff that isn't good or doesn't work in this game.. End of discussion?

You're giving up Sovngarde, theoretically. Sure it can work for certain characters, I didn't feel like it was something mine would do, so I dropped the quest line and went to do other things. I had a similar dilemma with my thief. She had just gotten married and didn't relish the "for all eternity" part of Nocturnal's pact, and probably would have walked out realistically. But I wanted to finish the guild quest line so I pushed it with her.

Sorry. People have said way more about the quest than I did, but NP. And I judged from your post count that you've certainly seen more about that quest by now.

Oh, I'm curing it before end of game. I don't care for the Daedra...love their hearts for my gear though.

No murder stats, but bounty...interesting. Thanks for the info. FWIW I will do DB stuff on an Assassin-type later, but on my Nord I'm trying to be noble - it's difficult when I keep getting tricked into evil-ish quests.

Awhile ago I was hunting through the console help menus trying to fix a Markarth problem , and saw that the crime event for killing Grelod is registered but has the entry that it was noticed but "ignored" which I found rather funny.I think some people's aversion to becoming a werewolf is either for RP purposes or simple disbelief after you get told how only certain people are even allowed to know about the secret meeting place let alone the whole circle business , then it's just........... Oh hey , you did a couple quests for us , c'mon and we'll make you a werewolf AND a member of the circle.REALLY wow .

Who the hell cares? I guess a true nord would rather sit around being fat, belching and farting and getting drunk for all eternity. You're hardly Hircine's [censored] when you're on your own in his Realm, surviving. An eternal chase, kill and devour type thing. Sure sounds better than sitting around doing nothing.

The thing about The Circle is, everybody inside The Circle is technically a leader in the Companions guild. He doesn't make you the Big Leader of all of them, you're just another leader inside of The Circle that realisticly people would go to for work. You don't have to join, but if you were to you wouldn't be the actual leader of them, you're more of a figurehead then anything else.

It's so fun to go beast form and go hunting at night. Farmers flee in terror. Kill anyone with the generic "farmer" or "thief" tag for your snack, savage the killer rabbits (they should have put one in the game), run into a band of bandits and just whup the crap out of them, have another snack, and sprint some more. Run into Thalmor and no problem. Kill a guard by accident? No problem. Just sprint far enough away then make sure you change back into human form before going into that town. You'll get the wet dog comment for sure then. It's kind of fun. Vampires are particularly fun to savage.

Activate any shrine to one of the Divines.

And werewovles are SO WEAK.

I can't shout or use a bow/arrow which are really helpful tools when my one handed or two handed weapons are leaving me vulnerable to incoming attacks!

You will forever fetch their meed for them, pup.

What Bethesda should add is an option to continue into the circle without becoming a Werewolf. It seems to me that all the quests could be solved including curing people who don't want to be a wolf without you yourself being one. What scares me is that this questline has a reputation for glitchiness and I don't want to find out quite a while later that the cure part is glitched. And I don't really want to be a werewolf, even a controllable one like this. I would think this would be a relatively easy fix (though as a software engineer, I know that changes that look easy aren't always).

Maybe they should do it like this. They ask you to join, you go to the harbinger and he talks to the others who agree to let you join the circle without becoming a werewolf.

What seems to have happened over the years is Hircene has corrupted the original Companions and turned them into her people. I can see how she'd want to, but it's not good for Skyrim or the companions, despite the short term benefits. I frankly like the Cyrodil fighters guild much better. I also like the mage's guild much better in Oblivion. Both organizations are pretty corrupted here in Skyrim. They are pale shadows the the Imperial guilds.

Well, this is the thing. "evil werewolves" is debateable in skyrim, as the only evidence OF one, is Sinding who couldn't control himself. Are the companions evil for being werewolves? No... the companions is the equivalent of the Fighters Guild... which is for who? Mercenaries. So, essentially by becoming a werewolf, you make yourself better able to do your mercenary work.

You don't need to be an 'evil' werewolf any more or less than you "need" to be an evil man or mer in this game

I have a basically "good" character that wants to be powerful. He has moral ambiguities like stealing things if he has to. He supported Ulfric because he feels the Empire will fail and Skyrim doesn't have to get dragged down with it. But he also feels Ulfric is a poor leader of a nation and he wants that position himself. He's joining the inner circle, and if there are some 'evil' aspects to the questline becasue of that, then good- it's a chance to play the character as he finds himself in that predicament due to his choice. Role Playing doesn't mean that you have to have an answer for every situation the character might get into, it means knowing how to play him in that situation

Something happened to me with these folks. Did I think one quest for them and they took me out back, did a little ceremony, had one guy vouch for me then next thing you something pops up on screen about melee weapons being 35% weaker. Im like WTF!?!?!?

You probly have a disease. Go to a shrine.

Yes, I don't see the companions as evil at all. Mercenary maybe but not evil. Their werewolf version is pretty benign. But I still don't really want to be one. I respect those who do, but I'd like an option to decline. At least until the quest has a better reputation for avoiding glitches.

I did want the disease immunity and I did want the Nord Hero equipment. So I did become a werewolf(and never used the Beast Form once on my own).

But if I actually went with "what I think is right" rather what provides most benefit in the game, I sure as hell wouldn't become a werewolf.

Turning into a beast to increase your combat prowess? Doubting your human abilities then? Honourable warriors my ass.