Skyrim is Brilliant Over and Over Again

Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:04 am

It's a great game, but keep trying to give it constructive criticism as you go (hopefully the devs are watching us occasionally). Haven't played any other games since the release of Skyrim ... changed my desktop background to this: http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/651000615244976086/676BB55657D2D48612AB5564EE2269D6879D386D/
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:11 am

Love your post. What's great about that fantasy novel is that you're *in* it. :) I found a new word wall and a dragon came after me on my way home after that so I think it's time for some rest before heading out again. Keep your eyes on the skies.

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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:50 am

I agree. It feels great when you see a thread that loves the game instead of complaining(not all of them tho) and impossible demands.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:16 am

Love your post. What's great about that fantasy novel is that you're *in* it. :smile: I found a new word wall and a dragon came after me on my way home after that so I think it's time for some rest before heading out again. Keep your eyes on the skies.

:tes:

I love the word walls, they show up in some of the most surprising places, just learnt my first Storm Shout and must admit that is an amazing power, to watch the storm form and lightning lash out at the dragon... even after 150 hours it stunned me! Especially in 52 inchs and Surround sound turned up :smile:

At one stage I went looking for word walls and climbed every high peak as a result, saw some amazing vista's and Aurora's during that time, many that stopped me in my tracks! One word wall was through a mine and out the other side, I had no idea the outside world continued upwards from the other side of this mine and there was a settlement there of sorts, a few huts and inside one a skeleton strewn across the floor, and a forge next to it, obviously someone long ago made this place their home.... before the Dragons returned that is; you see its things like this that give Skryim its soul, it feels as though people have been there before you living their lives and will continue to long after you are gone! Killed the dragon with arrows and the wall was just beyond, its things like this that amaze me in this game I spent the next couple of hours ingame watching the sun set while unlocking my new power!
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:01 am

I already played like 200 hours. And just started a New character.I'm playing with a Thief.And i can say too you that Bethseda didn't lied.Every time you start a new game...is a completly diverent adventure.As a thief you can hear the noise of all the things in the world(Obvilious,if not you die ....) I agree with all Zyghart Replies.The forums should have more people like you,but "complain" it's a human thing.Let them complain about the game while we enjoy it :)
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:18 am

I agree. I am loving this game. My only problem is that there are so many options to chose from I've made 7 characters.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:44 pm

Absolutely fantastic game....my expectations were high and Skyrim met or exceeded them. Can't wait to see what's coming with the Creation Kit!
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:55 am

Even those who complain bitterly tend to have put at least 100 hours into the game in six weeks.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:55 pm

it boggles my mind how anyone can say that this game doesn't have soul or interesting characters.
Probably because it's mostly filled up with dungeon crawling and simplified characters that repeat the same lines 40.000 times.
I love Skyrim as a timesink, it's a fun little hack and slashing game, but I would never take it's RPG-tag seriously.
It's so much quantity over quality and has such focus on exploration and dungeon crawling and combat that I could never call it brilliant.

Hmmm.
Skyrim is like... A really beautiful and sixy person, it's something you can fall in love with at first sight, but once you actually start to figure out his/her personality you'll learn he/she is a complete dike in every way.

The outside is very beautiful, the world, the dungeons, the characters appearances, dragon fights, effects et cetera.
But it's mechanics underneath are flawed, simplified, rushed and incomplete.

So 'brilliant over and over agin' ? Not for me at least.
It's a fun game, a really fun game, but it's highly overrated.

/imo of course.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:31 am

I've been playing games for over 35 years now and for me, this is one of the best games I have ever played. I'm about 160 hours in and still having fun.

This is game is so full of win.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:01 am

Of all the TES games.. This is my list on which is best (All my opinion)

1) Daggerfall
2) Skyrim
3) Morrowind
4) Oblivion
5) Arena

(No i did not mention Redguards :P)

So yes this is an awesome game.. Really well made. :) Well done Betty..
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:01 pm

I totally agree op, I was also going to get Arkham City but I just dont think Ill play it, Skyrim in my opinion is a materpiece I havent felt like this about a game for many years!
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:46 am

I totally agree op, I was also going to get Arkham City but I just dont think Ill play it, Skyrim in my opinion is a materpiece I havent felt like this about a game for many years!
Same here...I don't have the same feeling since Fallout 3....
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:38 am

They did a lot right, it`s just when they do something really well, it`s even more glaring when you see them fall flat on their face.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:22 pm

Exactly, I registered some time before Morrowind was released here and ever since have been dissapointed at the general publics response in these forums, its almost as though the better the game is received widely, the more people feel the need to pick at it over and over again, I guess its the tall-poppy syndrome! Its really quite sad how pathetic some people are and how they will make 20 threads stating the same thing over and over again until people agree!

Nothing to do with numbers, next you'll be saying it's perfect because of numbers sold, how could it possibly have any flaws when making a profit. The only effect those widely recieved numbers have is from the many many fans that trusted bethesda and where let down who now can only use thier voice to voice thier view, some how it's become wrong though to complain about a product you've paid for, not given, so much so you'll be attacked on a personal level by others who even will agree with or can't argue against your arguement. How many here will start threads over how "sad and pathetic" people are who make a constructive arguement, feedback or ideas. I know what I think is worse and unsurpisingly it's petty bullying, name calling and blind worship of flaws they agree exist, which isn't constructive to anything. Sorry I'm off topic here but I was not the one to derail this thread nor was it anyone being "negative" towards the game, just person after person being negative about people, and they'll say how bad we are and will turn threads to "snot" oh please..

Lol, yes maybe they could. But if you were here when Morrowind or Oblivion was released, coming on these forums would have you believe that Bethesda just released two of the worst games on the planet. There is a lot of passionate criticism of the game, and while I disagree with numerous amounts of them, they will abate soon enough. For every criticism, there are 50 silent players who are enjoying the game right now. I just wanted to share my love of Skyrim, its lore, and the people of made it happen.

Edit: I'd also like to add, I frequent many other forums which discuss Skyrim, and there is probably less than 5 complaints made in total about Skyrim from all of those forums. Skyrim is a big-name game, and it will attract alot of attention, because it is easier to attack.
Again complaints mostly have nothing to do with how big the name is, age maybe in that time they picked up fans who gained trust in them. Less then 5 complaints? Theres maybe 5 most frequent probally being Shallow quests, no reaction, glitches that can be hard to avoid running into including in all of the quest lines, general balance complaints and repetitive npcs. Theres others but those 5 alone each cover a sizeable area, less then 5 gob smacked. Is passionate critisism truly so bad anyway? None of those past "passionate critisism" resulted in something in the game now you love?.

I don't really get the comparisons with Fallout for one reason.

TES has to operate under a VERY specific set of rules because of its genre, which leads to bunches of checks/balances/potential lost content.

Fallout on the other hand has no real precedent, which results in much lower expectations.

They are both RPG's, but one is fantasy and one is post-apocalyptic. Different rules of engagement.

Its like comparing apples to oranges...

They're both fruit, yeah, but they taste different.


Umm lets see possible comparisions you that may lead you to comparing the game to another...Oh how about it's the 3rd one in the series, just because bethesda didn't own it then doesn't mean they don't exist or people will have no expectations for it. Other then that it isn't so alien to TES, both are open world "RPG's" with choices to make. The very specific rules of TES? Is it your character having very little background to allow you more to be who you want? Fallout has it too maybe to a lesser extent, but in fallout 3 your born and you grew up somewhere, it'll be a stretch to not have those things in your character in Skyrim. Or is it the lore? The rich history and varied fractions at war some of which have died out..same rules they had to work with in fallout. Aside from the setting and backstory theres very little difference and I don't think a bleak future defines it as a completely different game then bleak past.

Yeah theres some things they have got right but I've found it the least immersive game in the series mostly down to flaws in design.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:45 am

Probably because it's mostly filled up with dungeon crawling and simplified characters that repeat the same lines 40.000 times.
I love Skyrim as a timesink, it's a fun little hack and slashing game, but I would never take it's RPG-tag seriously.
It's so much quantity over quality and has such focus on exploration and dungeon crawling and combat that I could never call it brilliant.

Hmmm.
Skyrim is like... A really beautiful and sixy person, it's something you can fall in love with at first sight, but once you actually start to figure out his/her personality you'll learn he/she is a complete dike in every way.

The outside is very beautiful, the world, the dungeons, the characters appearances, dragon fights, effects et cetera.
But it's mechanics underneath are flawed, simplified, rushed and incomplete.

So 'brilliant over and over agin' ? Not for me at least.
It's a fun game, a really fun game, but it's highly overrated.

/imo of course.

I fundamentally disagree with you. And btw, what RPG are you playing that has non-essential characters saying different things everytime you visit them? On the other end of the stick, I really loved the conversations the townsfolk or essential NPCs had with others around them, for example Ulfric and his right-hand man or a woman complaining about a pervert after her. Additionally, if you think Skyrim has too much of a focus on exploration, you are playing the wrong game.

Just because you might not think Hamlet isn't brilliant, it doesn't mean it isn't.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:07 pm

Nothing to do with numbers, next you'll be saying it's perfect because of numbers sold, how could it possibly have any flaws when making a profit. The only effect those widely recieved numbers have is from the many many fans that trusted bethesda and where let down who now can only use thier voice to voice thier view, some how it's become wrong though to complain about a product you've paid for, not given, so much so you'll be attacked on a personal level by others who even will agree with or can't argue against your arguement. How many here will start threads over how "sad and pathetic" people are who make a constructive arguement, feedback or ideas. I know what I think is worse and unsurpisingly it's petty bullying, name calling and blind worship of flaws they agree exist, which isn't constructive to anything. Sorry I'm off topic here but I was not the one to derail this thread nor was it anyone being "negative" towards the game, just person after person being negative about people, and they'll say how bad we are and will turn threads to "snot" oh please..


Again complaints mostly have nothing to do with how big the name is, age maybe in that time they picked up fans who gained trust in them. Less then 5 complaints? Theres maybe 5 most frequent probally being Shallow quests, no reaction, glitches that can be hard to avoid running into including in all of the quest lines, general balance complaints and repetitive npcs. Theres others but those 5 alone each cover a sizeable area, less then 5 gob smacked. Is passionate critisism truly so bad anyway? None of those past "passionate critisism" resulted in something in the game now you love?.




Umm lets see possible comparisions you that may lead you to comparing the game to another...Oh how about it's the 3rd one in the series, just because bethesda didn't own it then doesn't mean they don't exist or people will have no expectations for it. Other then that it isn't so alien to TES, both are open world "RPG's" with choices to make. The very specific rules of TES? Is it your character having very little background to allow you more to be who you want? Fallout has it too maybe to a lesser extent, but in fallout 3 your born and you grew up somewhere, it'll be a stretch to not have those things in your character in Skyrim. Or is it the lore? The rich history and varied fractions at war some of which have died out..same rules they had to work with in fallout. Aside from the setting and backstory theres very little difference and I don't think a bleak future defines it as a completely different game then bleak past.

Yeah theres some things they have got right but I've found it the least immersive game in the series mostly down to flaws in design.

While, I never said that passionate criticism was all bad , I would like to say that there is more than just criticism when you want to show Bethesda what you want in the next game, like praising what they got right, which is a lot. That being said, when I said passionate criticism I meant criticism from people who really love the game and want to see it bettered as well as..*cough* criticism when your internet testosterone level is running high and mighty.

I also fundamentally disagree when you think that it is the least immersive game. If there is anything Skyrim got right, its immersion. I'm glad to see your opinion in the smallest of the minorities.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:13 pm

Love your post. What's great about that fantasy novel is that you're *in* it. :smile: I found a new word wall and a dragon came after me on my way home after that so I think it's time for some rest before heading out again. Keep your eyes on the skies.

:tes:

Yeah, I love the novel-esque sense I get from the game. Every time, I play I feel like I'm resuming a chapter in my fantasy novel.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:36 am

Having played about 200+ or such of Skyrim, I can easily say that this game is worth every dollar and every second spent playing it. Of course this game has it's flaws, every game does, but the game easily overcomes the flaws.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:44 pm

I fundamentally disagree with you. And btw, what RPG are you playing that has non-essential characters saying different things everytime you visit them?

Uh, New Vegas... because every NPC is non essential but one. An RPG that doesn't hand hold you and allows you to make decisions that actually effect things. An RPG that, God forbid, actually allows you to fail. What a concept.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:48 am

its a great game in and of itself but it falls short in many areas compared to bethesdas other recent game fallout 3 and even more so when you compare it to fallout NV. the only thing skyrim has on fallout NV is a better gameworld and graphics. compare it to fallout 3 which had a gameworld just as good as skyrim's (albeit bleaker) and fallout 3 beats skyrim hands down in every other category, writing, dialogue, quests, the gameworld reacting to player actions etc.

i still definitely got my moneys worth though.

I felt FO3 only had a gameworld. It had 17 so-called quests and a lot of them were done in 10 minutes. Or were go and collect nuka cola - which in this game is a simple radiant AI quest.

Skyrim has Dungeon quests which tell whole stories with dialogue. It also has linked quests. I agree that FO:NV was excellent, but FO3 was very lacking to me and Skyrim blows it out of the water.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:49 pm

I'm only 30 hours in on my first character, but so far, I couldn't agree more with the OP. I am really loving this game. And to mimic other posts, it really is refreshing to see a thread started with a compliment and not a whining complaint. WTG OP! :thumbsup:
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:48 pm

I felt FO3 only had a gameworld. It had 17 so-called quests and a lot of them were done in 10 minutes. Or were go and collect nuka cola - which in this game is a simple radiant AI quest.

Skyrim has Dungeon quests which tell whole stories with dialogue. It also has linked quests. I agree that FO:NV was excellent, but FO3 was very lacking to me and Skyrim blows it out of the water.

Uh, no. FO3 had 30 major quests. About another 15 unmarked quests and another 15 repeatable quests. Each of the major quests had multiple outcomes (though nothing like NV) and took 1-3 hours. You either didn't explore very well or didn't play FO3 very long.

I also don't agree Skyrim blows it out of the water. Both me and my downstairs neighbor went out got Skyrim day one. After a couple weeks of pretending the game wasn't as boring as it was, seeing as we just dropped $60 on it, he admitted he already gave up on it and I admitted I was playing NV again. At which point he borrowed FO3 from me and has been loving it for the last two weeks and wants NV when I'm done with it.

Point being, a lot of people find Skyrim very hollow for an RPG. Quests don't link. Nothing on par with a FO game where doing quests for one person locks you of another's quests and people seem to actually know each other in game. Your choices don't matter and you can't really craft a character the way you'd like because the perk system is actually the skill system.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:50 am

Uh, no. FO3 had 30 major quests. About another 15 unmarked quests and another 15 repeatable quests. Each of the major quests had multiple outcomes (though nothing like NV) and took 1-3 hours. You either didn't explore very well or didn't play FO3 very long.

I also don't agree Skyrim blows it out of the water. Both me and my downstairs neighbor went out got Skyrim day one. After a couple weeks of pretending the game wasn't as boring as it was, seeing as we just dropped $60 on it, he admitted he already gave up on it and I admitted I was playing NV again. At which point he borrowed FO3 from me and has been loving it for the last two weeks and wants NV when I'm done with it.

Point being, a lot of people find Skyrim very hollow for an RPG. Quests don't link. Nothing on par with a FO game where doing quests for one person locks you of another's quests and people seem to actually know each other in game. Your choices don't matter and you can't really craft a character the way you'd like because the perk system is actually the skill system.

Seems to me this is simply a case of you and your neighbour preferring FO3 and NV to Skyrim.
You ought not to equate your preference with the quality of the game. Lots of people prefer Skyrim over FO3 and NV.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:23 pm

Uh, New Vegas... because every NPC is non essential but one. An RPG that doesn't hand hold you and allows you to make decisions that actually effect things. An RPG that, God forbid, actually allows you to fail. What a concept.
This

NV>Skyrim
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