Wait - is the problem that you want your Dovahkin to be fat??? You WANT to play a fat, overweight, out of shape character?

If they did this, they'd need to add a heart attack feature . . .for the first time you try to get up to High Hrothgar.

Not true. You only need a minimal amount of exercise to stay healthy. Walking for 20 mins a day will do it.

The problem with the USA is the culture has become about being physically big. Americans would rather be a meat head than a fat f-ck, and rather be a fat f-ck than a normal size human being.

It's kinda ironic considering that americans are now shorter on average than those "skinny fat" euros.

-THIS- hahahahahaha. Too true.

Doing what the OP suggested basically means we would have to use one armor type for the whole game, I think I'll stick with the Weight option which is a good step in the right direction.

That is my point, I have x time to make a game with y number of resources, if you make 2 of something it will be roughly 2 things that are half as good as making 1 of something within that same amount of time and resources

and even beyond that, I could hire 2 guys to make 2 skeletons and 1 to do quests or 1 guy to do skeletons and 2 for quests, not literal numbering there but you get the point, the more on 1 thing detracts from the rest, in a word, PRIORITIZE!

EDIT; also to everyone else in the topic, don't forget, in the middle ages it was totally attractive and sixy to have some pudge, girls used to dig a man who could live fat

...also women with a gap between their front teeth were hot

Yea, well, those guys who could live fat weren't running around in 80 pounds of metal, swinging metal weapons at other guys encased in metal trying to kill them. The fat guys were the ones sitting in the big chair sending other people out to do things.

Doesn't make for a great game to sit there and send someone else out to do things, IMO.

There is no need for player to be fat or skinny, there should be just fat and skinny npcs with clothes specially designed for them which you can't loot.

Sure you would just need to morph (on certain points) the vertexes of the character and clothes to a larger radius?

There is no excuse, San An"frickin"dreas had it in 2004.

yeah, and I wouldnt want a gap between my PC's teeth either, just giv'in some love to the big men


And didn't again in 2008

I'm sorry but there was no San Andreas re-make in 2008



GTAIV does not count - it was awful...ly boring and a step back.

There are fat people in gta 4?

You could also have Dunkin Sweetrolls in every reach where the overweight people hangout talking about quests. None of them ever made it up the 7000 steps.

I can imagine it now. "I used to be an adventurer like you . . . but then I took a few dozen sweetrolls to the stomach."

Great. A fat dragonborn would simply replace Alduin as the world eater...

It actually seems like quite a task

But it would be cool, especially in a hardcoe mode. Someone who doesn't eat that much, and then only eats fruits and vegetables would be really skinny. Someone who ate 5 apple pies a day and rides the carriage everywhere would be really chubby. Like GTA: San Andreas. Although that game maybe had a few dozen character models at the most. Skyrim, or the next TES...your talking about an exponentially larger number here.

How many possible NPC models are there already? Now imagine that, and multiply it by how many different "fat" models you think is reasonable, for EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE.

Not Fat PC's (except if you count Niko's gut)

just Sloven Eastern European NPC's

Saint's Row doesnt have the armor issue. Clothes can be stretched, armor can't. They would have to redesign each armor set for each body type.

Also SR doesn't care much for those issues, it has an unrealistic presentation to begin with. Bethesda wants to create a fictional but believable world, they cant just 'solve' such issues by ignoring it like SR can and does.

Same thing with spears really. In games like Morrowind and WoW where the presentation is less realistic and more cartoony, you can have clipping issues without it being a major distraction. In games with graphics like Skyrim and CoD it would be immediatly noticable and distracting to many.

Bethesda's tech is old and limited and you can even make much better characters with EVE Online.

No u! They've never looked better

Though i'l still start using a mod for human-faced version ASAP

And i thougth naked (or as naked as you can get) character with weight at max looked pretty heavy. Not fat exactly, but quite big compared to the typical game characters.


Yes. the "new" engine just the old Gamebryo with a new coat of paint. Looks better on the surface, but beneath it is just old.