No its really not its baffling some people think its, ok.

Let me get this straight: instead of making the theory into practice, you'd rather make the theory impossible to put into practice?
There are things that could be done to make there be a greater difference between the armor styles, like decreasing the perks' effectiveness on heavy armor. Putting medium armor into the mix makes it impossible to properly differentiate between the two.

I would love to have it, if it offered something unique, but it didn't. Like I said earlier, as a blend, it did neither job very well. So if they could add in a third factor beyond movement/stealth and protection, that it could excel at, I'd say go for it.

right on man, baffling is exactly the word i was looking for. i LOVED DA:Os multiple lvls of armor AND the fact that you needed to have a certain strength before you could wear "massive" armor.

The DA:O system offered varying degrees of protection at the cost of stamina. Massive armor made you very hard to kill, but gave you little stamina for activating abilities. It was great defensively but hampered offensive capability. Light armor was the opposite because it helped only a little with damage reduction, but caused your stamina to decrease only a tiny bit. Medium offered a good deal more protection, but it started to somewhat effect your stamina. Heavy offered good protection, but the penalties to stamina were pretty noticeable. Each armor type had distinction, which created plenty of roleplaying potential, as well as a good gameplay mechanic.

I would have liked the system described above to be in Skyrim (or future TES games) because it worked much better than our current system IMO.

Actually, that's exactly the same skyrim's armor system, when you take out perks and enchanting.

I agree more is better, it should have some way to blend heavy and light together with an armor rating in the middle and not make as much noise as heavy armor and it should make more noise than light armor. I liked this armor for a spellsword or a witchhunter build. It also worked well with a sorcerer or a battlemage build.

True, but it only has the two ends of the spectrum. I want to have something in the middle like Dragon Age : Origins or Morrowind had.

Can you guess why they cut out the middle? here's a hint: playstyles are supposed to be different, as opposed to the same exact style using different numbers.
Sure, Beth didn't do the best job in differentiating light and heavy armor, but that's no excuse for intentionally screwing it up even more

I liked that too, that is why we need attribute back to determine things like this. Dragon Age Origins did armor very well.
I would like this system as well.

It would add options.

Strength should determine what armor you wear.

The armor you wear should dictate how much stamina is used when you perform an action like power attacks and sprinting. You should have positives and negatives to each armor or clothing option so you can best pick the attire that best fits your character.

You are right it would work wonder for roleplaying.

I feel like you entirely missed the point I was trying to make. With medium armor you compromise your ability to sneak and you still can't take a hit. So what did you gain? Nothing noteworthy. It's middle of the road mediocre. That's why I said it needs a third factor added to the system. Something medium armor could be the best at.

When you join the Imperials, you can get Imperial Medium armour

No one puts a gun to your head and forces you to use the medium armors. The heavy and light armors would still be there. People should have a choice *gasp* in what size of armor their character wears, instead of being forced into what others deem as the "right" playstyles.

I understood your point I am just irritated by the lack of options in this game, it does need a strong middle ground but it should be in the game.

Maybe the factor it could govern should be less stamina use than heavy armor to execute an action like power bash. You should also not recover stamina as quickly wearing different armor types and medium could be that middle ground where stamina and function met for a play style that fits a spellsword or possibly a bard.

If by "very well", you mean having 12 suits of armor that were just different colors of the same model, then yes it does
if you're referring to mechanics, then you're comparing apples to carrots(screw the usual phrase) because armor in TES is nothing like that in Dragon age. in DA, the only real choice you have to make is how much you rely on your talents. In skyrim, armor defines everything about how you play.
No, it wouldn't add options. It would just shove in a middle option that doesn't feel like it belongs anywhere.
adressed above. medium armor is just a middle ground that detracts from the value of the other two
here's a detail that you might have missed. since everyone seems to conveniently forget it in situations like this, i'll make it nice and visible:
NOONE LIKES STUPID CHOICES

Nobody puts a gun to your head and forces you to use the marriage system. but people still complain about it. Do you know why? Because people feel it's not a well-done option.
Medium armor is exactly the same: adding it in for the sake of having the option isn't a valid reason for adding in a totally [censored] option that looks like it's there just so it can be.
If you're going to add anything to the armor, add in more difference between the two armor styles we already have. don't blend the lines between them even more

We don't want customization in our action/adventure game.

I simply don't agree that the argument of "It's a mediocre middle ground" is good enough to warrant not having it.
Even if you're absolutely correct, I'd still prefer to have the middle ground there, in case I don't particularly care about sneaking but don't want to be weighed down.

The mechanics are better in Origins as your armor effects what you can and cannot do. The armor skins were laughable agreed.

So for you less is more: its a middle ground and it should be in therefore we have the option to wear it. I had a lot of medium armor characters in Morrowind and I liked it a lot we need options back.

If all you want are options, you may as well just add more types of armor. A whole new classification of armor, though, needs something to make it unique or special. Medium really doesn't have any such thing.

And the problem with the fatigue/stamina suggestion is that would still less than light armor, meaning it's still middle ground mediocre.

I was not putting forth that Medium Armor is needed. In a game like TES, Medium Armor would quickly get lost in the shuffle. What I was pointing out is that the differences between Light and Heavy, in practice, are negligible due to other mechanics in the game. The choice between Light and Heavy in Skyrim is about as drastic as choosing between Light, Medium, and Heavy. Which is to say, not drastic at all.

There is nothing wrong with wanting for, something that meld two things together so it does not use as much stamina and does not make as much noise as heavy armor, although this would not matter with muffle.

Each system should have something perk related, there should be a medium armor perk tree thats adds in things to make it more than just a middle ground, it should be a happy union of heavy and light armor as it is in the middle of them.

Hence the point I'm making, which happens to agree with yours: [censored] medium armor.
if Bethesda's going to do anything with the armor system, it should make more difference between light and heavy, and give more variety in each. It's stupid to add in an option that detracts from everything else just for the sake of having it
Yes there is: it's the same freaking reason that people whine about being able to be jack of all trades.
there's no value whatsoever in a system that does everything that all the others do, but is worse at it. that's just an option that's been tacked on purely so you can say "Look at all the things I can do" when they're all the same thing with different colored socks

and to answer your above point, no. less is not more. I want more variety in armor, but I also want my choices to actually mean something
if anything, your argument means you think more is more, when more is actually less

You should still have a limit to how many perks you can have. Invest in the medium tree if you not the other two, or screw your character and invest in all three and sacrifice some offense you should have the choice to choose what you want, I want a middle ground with the armor where you can have something in the center of the armor skill. I do not want a drastic shift from one to the other there should be something in the middle.

First you say less is not more then you say you want more armor, I can attest to this as I want the same thing, then you say my argument is more is more when its actually less how is that possible. Having more options is having more options and thus more ways we can expand on how we roleplay and play our game. Your basically telling me one is more than two that is simply not possible.

Wait...is this entire thread here because there was medium armor in Morrowind or something, and so therefore it should be in Skyrim?

so you're telling me that having medium armor "detracts from everything else"...like you can't enjoy the game because there happens to be an option you don't like. what you seem to be wanting is the same thing in different colored socks. i.e. more light and heavy armor options that look different.

how does having medium armor affect YOUR game, like lets say they added it in the DLC. how EXACTLY would that impact your game?