Skyrim is a rip off.

Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:55 pm

The last thread was locked due to a thread limit and due to several reports. I remind you that this thread is just my take on 81 hours of play, it is an opinion. I will provide a video to further develop my beliefs and opinions. Please stay on topic. Thank you. For the TL;DR please proceed to the last paragraph.

In my life I haven't played many old RPGs that previous gaming generations adored and praised, in fact my gaming life started in 1999 when I was about 5 playing flight sim games, particularly Jane's USAF amd Jane's WW2 Fighters. My first ever RPG would be Morrowind. I instantly fell in love with the characters, the story, the combat, the artistic style, the lore, the quests, and the world around me. I've probably played 700 hours of Morrowind in my short life. Everything was original and I believe that's what everyone liked about Morrowind. Then comes Oblivion, though the world was awesome, the music was awesome, the combat was awesome, and the immersiveness was awesome, something always felt a bit missing. Skills were chopped, there wasn't as much lore, and things were a little more RPG generic as opposed to Morrowind. Oblivion was awesome, in it's own unique way and couldn't be considered a sequel to Morrowind. It was still a TES game and I loved it. I've probably had 600 combined ours of Oblivion on Xbox360 and PC.

Years passed and we speculated and wondered what the next TES game would be about, then it finally came. Skyrim would give us even less content than Morrowind for an even greater price. Yes, the whole viking nord theme is kick ass, the whole idea of a province in conflict is awesome too, but nothing was original, except maybe the Dwemer ruins and Dwemer underground world. Perks and skill trees are ideas pretty much ideas ripped directly from other games such as World of Warcraft, Call of Duty 4, and The Witcher. More skills and weapons were cut, there are even less armor sets than oblivion. A lot of the dungeons are shorter than Oblivion's caves and dungeons, way shorter than Morrowind's. Remember in Morrowind how you're sent to some dwarven ruin to get a part for a blade? On your way there you encounter your first cliff racer. The part is in the room as you first enter, but if you keep going through that ruin it goes on FOREVERRRRRRRRRRRRR.

Dragons as the idea of a main quest line is... pretty stupid in my opinion. Dragons have been used way too much, there's even a dragon in beowulf, this isn't beowulf... Bethesda was very creative and original with the story in Morrowind, and was creative and original with some of the quest chains in oblivion too! What happened? Did they kill their old scriptwriter or did they JUST start working on the game when they announced it on Spike TV? Now the gameplay mechanic of shouts is very interesting and original I'll give bethesda that. Just like the gameplay mechanic of the Nano suit in the first Crysis made Crysis very fun.

Anyway this game takes a lot of gameplay mechanics from other video games, and takes too much story from Norse mythology. Bethesda has way more potential than this, just look at Morrowind. They are capable of making their own unique lore and story, but money pretty much rules the gaming industry. It's all just a business now. Anyway that's my say on it, here's my video to help back my argument :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkpbZzs7a94&feature=channel_video_title

Thank you.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:23 am

Oh. Another person who wanted TES V: Morrowind II.

So sorry you didn't get it.

Oh wait, I'm not sorry.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:06 pm

Uh, Minus a couple of detail nothing in Morrowind was terribly original other than the artwork, which is admittedly gorgeous. Dark elves, all that crap has been around in lore other places for a long time.

I admit it's well done in Morrowind, but the story and lore really wasn't strikingly original if you've been gaming a while.

You guys know, for it's time..Morrowind and even Daggerfall made money right?
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:52 am

Like you said, its just your opinion. I couldn't stand Morrowind, thought Oblivion was a bit better, and feel they made a far better world this time with Skyrim. Sure there's some problems but the pure scope of the world is just amazing.

If ya don't like it than don't play it but don't try to cheapen the company because you feel let down. Plenty of us have gotten our money's worth.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:09 am

Oh. Another person who wanted TES V: Morrowind II.

So sorry you didn't get it.

Oh wait, I'm not sorry.
I didn't want TES V: Morrowind II, I wanted something unique. Like how the Shivering Isles expansion was unique, the artistic design was mind blowing. Though skyrim is pretty unique since it's the only game where I can walk through a blizzard in a mountain, Bethesda could do WAY better. The game was rushed, just like every new game released.

The fact that there are no magic take downs, but there are sword take downs and cinematics proves the game was rushed.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:29 pm

WTF? Did you miss the exploration possibilities of the Skyrim world?

My suggestion: Just take a walk in almost any direction...
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:09 am

My video also
I just want my old bethesda back, before the days of FO3.

The bethesda of olden days before games were rushed to make dollars.

There's only a handful of developers like this now.
You speak of times that never existed. Skyrim was no more "rushed" than Duke Nukem Forever.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:46 am

"Skyrim is a ripoff"

" I played it for 81 HOURS"

So you feel ripped off for paying about $1.35 per hour of entertainment?
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:42 am

You speak of times that never existed. Skyrim was no more "rushed" than Duke Nukem Forever.
You speak of times that never existed. Skyrim was no more "rushed" than Duke Nukem Forever.
Duke Nukem Forever was in development for a year and a half, everyone gets this wrong.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:47 pm

WTF? Did you miss the exploration possibilities of the Skyrim world?

My suggestion: Just take a walk in almost any direction...

I did a lot of exploring in Skyrim, 81 hours worth of exploring alone. But it can't compare to oblivion or Morrowind in my opinion.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:13 am

A group of people already used either the Morrowwind toolkit or Oblivion and made a whole land mass that was in conflict. So even that has been done before....
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:30 am

A group of people already used either the Morrowwind toolkit or Oblivion and made a whole land mass that was in conflict. So even that has been done before....
So you're saying the main conflict in Skyrim is a "rip off" then? And by main conflict I mean government vs rebels.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:09 am

Everything is a rip off of something else. Star Wars was an amalgamation of a bunch of old tv series, didn't stop it from being one of the most successful movies of all time. Games often borrow elements from other games, this is nothing new. When those elements are proven successful why would you try and change it?

The entire movie industry is basically just one big rip off, hell perhaps the entertainment industry has just run out of original ideas? There's only so far you can go to invent things before the process becomes exceedingly more and more difficult.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:48 pm

Duke Nukem Forever was in development for a year and a half, everyone gets this wrong.

Duke Nukem Forever took 12 years to develop, I'd hardly call it rushed.......I'd still call it [censored] though! I don't think Skyrim was rushed at all, its the most unique open world RPG game I've played in the past decade and I've played Oblivion and Fallout 3.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:16 am



The fact that there are no magic take downs, but there are sword take downs and cinematics proves the game was rushed.

What kind of insane, ridiculous reasoning is that?

Look kid, its fine if you don't like skyrim. Just say it. But don't post a bunch of crap and pass it off as definitive when it is nothing more than your opinion
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:19 am

The entire movie industry is basically just one big rip off, hell perhaps the entertainment industry has just run out of original ideas? There's only so far you can go to invent things before the process becomes exceedingly more and more difficult.
J.R.R. Tolkien invented his own original series of novels in the 1930s, with ideas taken from Sir Gawain and the Green Night and other old tales from the days of old, but only as inspiration. He invented his own language, his own world, his own characters, and his own monsters. I cannot see why this can't happen again. The human mind is an amazing entity, I guess people aren't being payed enough to think of anything original. Or people are too worried about themselves because they're suffering in these hard economic times.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:06 am

Duke Nukem Forever took 12 years to develop, I'd hardly call it rushed.......I'd still call it [censored] though! I don't think Skyrim was rushed at all, its the most unique open world RPG game I've played in the past decade and I've played Oblivion and Fallout 3.
No. Gearbox took up Duke Nukem Forever about a year and a half before it's actual release. 3D realms just never got around to ever doing anything with it, but just said it was in development when it really wasn't.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:00 am

New Year's Resolution for Moderators :

Create subforum in Skyrim Issues Forum and call it...

Skyrim Complaints.

Please?
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:29 pm

I am a rip off and I find this thread offensive..
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:06 pm

Sometimes, when I hear all the praise being cast on Skyrim, I'm wondering if I'm playing the same game.
Sorry ladies and gentlemen, but to me, Skyrim is a bundle of dissapointments, and will be the last TES game I ever buy.

I wasnt looking for Morrowind 2.0, but I was looking for an elder scrolls game, and Skyrim is anything but.
Skyrim is an imposter, claiming to be an RPG, but its actually linear, un-interesting, and an action game.

Skyrim's story is a shriveled core of mediocrity. They removed the dialouge and subtitles for some strange reason that I cant seem to fathom. Because of this, every character now needs to speak to you for thirty minutes in order for any story to develop at all.

I used to be able to read the subtitles faster then the always-out of breath and slow-talking imbeciles of Oblivion, but now, I need to listen to NPC's for ten minutes at a time, and if I skip even one section of the voice-acting, I miss the story.

Everyone hails the quests in Skyrim, calling them much more interesting, and the dungeons better designed. Again, am I even playing the same game?
The quests in Skyrim are SO BADLY DESIGNED, they needed to make practically a third of all NPC's essential. Because of this, not one quest in this game can be falied. In Morrowind, you ran the risk of failing every quest, therefore adding replay-ability.

If they had correctly labeled the game as Action, I wouldnt be mad.
If they had correctly called the game "Skyrim", and not "The Elder Scrolls, Skyrim" I wouldnt be mad.
But because of this, I have no choice but to give the game 5/10.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:04 am

This read is a ripoff from hundreds of other threads full of similar whining.

You spent $60 bucks on a game you played for 81 hours - you received your money's worth.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:17 pm

This read is a ripoff from hundreds of other threads full of similar whining.

You spent $60 bucks on a game you played for 81 hours - you received your money's worth.

I didn't buy the game, I borrowed it from a friend for the 360. I don't buy games anymore, just rent/borrow them from friends.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:37 am

They removed the dialouge and subtitles for some strange reason that I cant seem to fathom.

Apparently you're right in thinking you are playing a different game...
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:20 am

oh i love the music
nice try tho but it still looks like some lame attempt at trolling hehehehheh keep trying
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:23 am

"Skyrim is a ripoff"

" I played it for 81 HOURS"

So you feel ripped off for paying about $1.35 per hour of entertainment?

I'm at 400 hours... yeah, i feel really ripped off :rolleyes:
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