Skyrim+Steam = Disgust

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:18 am

You should have gotten the xbox version instead: you put it in, you play :)
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Hayley O'Gara
 
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:23 am

So much for streamlining. I was happier when it was: 1. Install the game from disk. 2. Launch game.


yes lovely days, thats howe to instal a game shud work
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:19 am

OP: look on your computer and Right click the little Icon that represents where your Skyrim DVD is.

The drop down Menu will have several choices, you can choose "Install or run program from your media" or "Open AutoPlay" or even just "Open" and it should launch the installer.If not, just Right click "Open" and look for "Auto Run", Right click that and select "Install" from the drop down menu.

Note: if Steam is not on your system you WILL have to install that and register first, but then you can Install via the steps above WITHOUT downloading from Steam.


EDIT: Just my personal opinion on Steam. I just bought another copy of one of my favorite games of all time, that I couldn't find anywhere, ( Abe's Oddysee) for 63 cents. SIXTY- THREE- CENTS !!! I love Steam!
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:00 pm

You people dont even own your games and dont forget it.


Even with a disk in your grubby paw you don't own it, you have bought a license to use the software either DDL or shop bought makes no difference.
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Amelia Pritchard
 
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:38 am

OP: look on your computer and Right click the little Icon that represents where your Skyrim DVD is.

The drop down Menu will have several choices, you can choose "Install or run program from your media" or "Open AutoPlay" or even just "Open" and it should launch the installer.If not, just Right click "Open" and look for "Auto Run", Right click that and select "Install" from the drop down menu.

Note: if Steam is not on your system you WILL have to install that and register first, but then you can Install via the steps above WITHOUT downloading from Steam.

Only, it didn't work that way for me, or many other people. Any of the orthodox, logical methods to install from the disk such as the ones you've described above wound up downloading the game from steam... When I clicked the installer on the disk, for example, it downloads the game instead of installing it from the disk. What?

The only way to circumvent this was by doing the following:

*Log in to Steam and click on Library.
*Right-click on the game, select Delete local content, and confirm.
Insert the first disc into your computer.
Close Steam (Steam > Exit).
Press Windows Key + R to open Run
In the Run window type:

"C:\Program Files\Steam\Steam.exe" -install E:

Replace E: with the CD/DVD drive you are installing from if is not correct.
Replace C:\Program Files\Steam if your Steam installation is not in the default location.
Press OK. Steam will launch and ask you to sign in if you do not have your password saved. Your installation should continue from the disc.

That workaround is slightly more of a hassle than clicking the installer on the disk, and even then I had to attempt this multiple times as it logged into steam anyway and shoved a "servers are too busy" message into my face, even when you are, in fact, installing it from the disk. Gah.

I've had this with other games as well, where I own the hard-copy (i.e. license) and I have to use this workaround so Steam doesn't download it from the net. Why don't they just have a default "install from CD/DVD" option?

I don't really mind Steam, but I do find it more of an inconvenience than a convenience.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:29 am

Only, it didn't work that way for me, or many other people. Any of the orthodox, ]i]logical[/i] methods to install from the disk wind up downloading the game from steam... Clicking the installer on the disk for example downloads the game instead of installing it from the disk. What?

The only way to circumvent this was by doing the following:



That workaround is slightly more of a hassle than clicking the installer on the disk, and even then I had to attempt this multiple times as it logged into steam anyway and shoved a "servers are too busy" message into my face, even when you're installing it from the disk. Gah. I've had this with other games as well, where I own the hard-copy (i.e. license) and I have to find a workaround so Steam doesn't download it from the net. Why don't they just have a default "install from CD/DVD" option?

I don't really mind Steam, but I do find it more of an inconvenience than a convenience.


I tried that as well ( got it from Steam support site) and that failed three times with me, that's when I tried just Right clicking on the DVD drive...and it worked like a charm. That's why I posted my original reply, because Steam's method didn't work, but mine did.


EDIT: I do agree there should be a default "Install from Disk" option
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:00 am

I tried that as well ( got it from Steam support site) and that failed three times with me, that's when I tried just Right clicking on the DVD drive...and it worked like a charm. That's why I posted my original reply, because Steam's method didn't work, but mine did.


EDIT: I do agree there should be a default "Install from Disk" option

Unfortunately, the method you've described (which is very logical) didn't work for me. :/ The only way to get the game to actually install from the disk was by the method I described above. Any other method I used would log me into steam and try to download the game from the net. :(
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:01 am

Not sure what you guys problem was, I had no problems installing from the DVD (with an existing steam account).
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:40 pm

Problem is, for pirates -- lots of people downloading the game through torrents means you get the game FASTER.
I'd use the pirated version if only to avoid steam, playing on my laptop, even if I bought it legitimately.
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That is the irony of it.
Pirates thrive while legitimate customers suffer.

That is today's DRM in a nutshell.

Ironically very true.
and because of Steam it's usually alot less hassle just to get a pirated version
Got all my old classics on PC, but new games i just get for console.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:56 am

Piracy is the reason we have to use Steam in the first place. Its also the reason why most companies are leaving the PC gaming industry altogether.

If you want to torrent, then by all means go do so. But you lose all privelages to complain about games if you do.

News for you, they've been around since day 1, and its even easier on consoles. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:15 pm

I have deleted a number of posts eithe discussing piracy or generally trolling.

Moderastors work on Christams day as well and are just as happy to issue warnings today as well.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:21 am

Steam take a massive cut from the sales too. From what I've heard from a indie dev its better to sell few copies directly than many via steam from a purely financial point of view. Maybe Beth should have made their own anti-piracy platform and sold it via that, increased revenue as no Steam taking a cut. But I guess then it would get mad because for every company we buy a game from we'd have a steam style program on our computer :wallbash:
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:30 pm




Are you joking, its a toss up with a disk too, put a disk in your drive and you are just as likely to end up DL the game from steam too.

Meh, I put my disc in the drive it took 10 minutes to install then another 5 to update and I was ready to play within maybe 20 minutes.

Sounds to me like the OP should've iinstalled several days ago then wrapped the box up and waited to play. Bad timing OP.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:52 am

Dear Bethesda,

I am writing this post to simply inform you of how disappointing getting Skyrim (PC) fro christmas has been for me, I am a very loyal customer and have bought every game you have released since morrowind on the Xbox and at times multiple copies of the same game.

However I am now to 4+ hours installation and updating time for Skyrim and have yet to even open the game, this simply is not good enough I understand that as it is christmas it is a peak time for steam and traffic would be a lot higher than usual, but this does not excuse the fact that alough I have a store bought copy of the game I am still uanble to play it after 4+ hours, there is zero justification for this and I am beyond disapointed.

Additonaly blaming Steam is not an excuse, you chose to release your game through steam your responsible.
That is why I hate steam...You should've gotten your game on amazon
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:15 pm

That is why I hate steam...You should've gotten your game on amazon

if so but if you bye the game whit the cd you are forsed to use steam.
normaly i bye game on cd just for not hawing to downlode more then uppdates, but no no not whit this game


STEAM svckS BAD
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:58 am

Unfortunately, the method you've described (which is very logical) didn't work for me. :/ The only way to get the game to actually install from the disk was by the method I described above. Any other method I used would log me into steam and try to download the game from the net. :(


I don't doubt you at all. It kept trying to do that to me as well. I probably just got lucky and Steam glitched or something, allowing it to install like it should. I'll be honest, when it kept trying to download over and over, I was mad as hell. I still think it's stupid, especially considering how much I despise programs highjacking my computer.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:47 am

So much for streamlining. I was happier when it was:

1. Install the game from disk.
2. Launch game.

We all do but pirates ruined it for everyone.

Steam is DRM but unlike many other DRM services like Origin or whatever Ubisoft uses, it's much less of a hassle.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:04 am

I love Steam. It is SO comfortable to use. Problems occur normally with new users who aren't used to the platform (if you are used to PC and decide to switch to mac you don't say [censored] mac, I don't get it, it totally svcks, right?).

I see why you are angry, though. One tipp that might help: In the program there is a tab called "steam". Then "settings", "downloads". There you can change the server you are downloading from. Needs a restart but it helps, at least if you are using one of the servers everyone is using (I am using US - San Jose, it is the fastest one for me, and I sit in China right now).

And some of you guys should inform yourself better, before coming up with so much semi-knowledge that you heard somewhere in the interwebz. Call me a really devoted fan if you wish, I like the program. Can't even remember when I last bought a hardcopy of a game. I guess it was Bioshock 2 when released...
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:14 am

Legit customer... not suffering. The people who seem to be suffering are the people who choose to hate DRM.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:52 pm

It's being a pain and not letting me install from disc on my new PC, but I'm getting 2.1mb/s download from Steam so whatever.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:54 am

I hate steam. I was disappointed when Skyrim was automatically installed to Steam. Now I can'tt even play Skyrim if my internet isnt working. And I have a unreliable internet. Why do you need internet connection to play Skyrim if it's not even an online game? Steam is just total crap.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:41 am

I hate steam. I was disappointed when Skyrim was automatically installed to Steam. Now I can'tt even play Skyrim if my internet isnt working. And I have a unreliable internet. Why do you need internet connection to play Skyrim if it's not even an online game? Steam is just total crap.

You don't have to be online once Skyrim is installed. Steam has an offline mode.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:53 pm

Steam is annoying but sadly we have to accept it if we want to play certain titles and I for one have decided that I will liberate some of my steam purchases just because to be safe if the service wents down or any "silent update" is enforced upon the userbase even if the client was explicity told to don't do updates.

I think in all honesty that there is only ONE company who got DRM (and DLC) damn straight right and that is CD-Projekt Red! Witcher2 marked my first digital purchased game and I have a fast connection since a decade or so I simply do not like digital distribution but CDPR gave me a reason to buy their product: It was a triple A DRM free title from day1 done from folks I like based on a previous game released as a fair deal (all pay the same no region [censored])!

Bethesda should contact the guys over at GoG.com and work out a deal with them! Start by releasing Battlespire(5$),Arena(free),Daggerfall(free),MorrowindGoty(10$),OblivionGoty(10$),Redguard(5$) then work out a contract for TES6 released DRM free!
You cannot stop pirates by DRM but you can jarateer off your paying customers with it!

And yeah consoles get their pirate version earlier than PCs (2011 releases proof that a dozen times or more) and Steam only protects until final release of the game because of the missing files (on retail discs/preloads) and you do not need Steam for that again ask the guys over at GoG.com/CDPR!

And hell Steam is disguting just bought Prototype and them download servers are full: 512mb of ~7000mb running almost an hour on a 16mbit line (connection to steam, lost atm)...I bet I could have torrented half or more of the game already....
Another thing on Steam: Waste of Bandwidth! I bought Railworks3 (Train Simulator 2012) [Yeah am ashamed of purchase] well I downloaded 6,75 GB (7.258.254.412 Bytes) for that game then I compressed the folder with 7z LZMA2 (ultra;dict=256mb;word=273;solid) resulting filesize: 1,79 GB (1.929.604.432 Bytes) Such things are disgusting!
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:09 am

We all do but pirates ruined it for everyone.

Steam is DRM but unlike many other DRM services like Origin or whatever Ubisoft uses, it's much less of a hassle.

Linking to Steam has nothing to do with pirates - they'll crack any DRM (even Ubisoft's crazy draconian system was blown in under a week).

Using Steam is all about nuking the ability of people to trade / loan / sell used. It locks that copy of to your account, and it's never going anywhere else..... and from the dev's perspective, used sales really are worse than pirates - because people buying used feel like they're legitimate. A person who'd never pirate a game because it's "wrong" will happily buy a used copy.... and the devs get no cut of that used sale. They get the same $0 that they'd get from a pirated copy, but from people much more likely to do a legitimate purchase.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:42 am

Additonaly blaming Steam is not an excuse, you chose to release your game through steam your responsible.
You're right. I blame you and the person who bought it for you. If you have really fast internet, even at 'peak times' on Steam you can download quickly. Also, the person who bought you Skyrim, could have gotten you a hardcopy version, which installs in about 4 minutes. And if you did get a hardcopy version, then you should install from disc instead of downloading it and freaking out when it takes forever...

Moderastors work on Christams day as well and are just as happy to issue warnings today as well.
Gotten into the eggnog, have we? :tongue:
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