lol no.

If you like role playing games, as in actually taking on another role and living out another life rather looking at lists of numbers, then you'll love it.

However, if you prefer the kind of RPG that has numbers popping up above an enemy's head whenever you land a hit then you might not take to it very well.

The only way to be sure is to just try it. I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

Skyrim is actually such a well-crafted game that it spoils people and brings out a pedantic and unnecessarily critical side. Seriously, the only things wrong with this game are minor trivialities, and I have yet to see someone concretely argue a case otherwise. I mean the forums need to be filled with something other than 'well done bethesda, nice job on this great game' threads. And that's where the complainers come in en masse =)

I think the 'open world' classification is more a reference that you are less restricted in what you can do. You dont have to stick to a laid out path if you dont want to. Grand Theft Auto 4 would be considered an 'open world' even though it is set in Liberty City (I think, not sure if it actually is. A good example anyway).

I do too. For me, it rivals Morrowind as a game that allows my roleplaying creativity to flourish. And this is not my first Elder Scrolls game, and I am many decades away from being a "tweener."

Skyrim is awesome, I love it... except when it crashes and Ive turned autosave off, then I eventually lose 4~10 hours... but I keep recreating my character, almost twice in a week so, no biggie. Anyway I'm particularly attracted by "open world" games you know... Witcher 2 was cool and everything, that dwarven city was awesome but the game itself lacks freedom... Id be playing Witcher 2 right now if I could spend more times between the chapters... but Id miss the mounts.

I started with Daggerfall and have played all TES games since. Played the original Fallout games and Fallout 3 and New Vegas. There are definitely things I wish they had done differently in Skyrim, but I think Bethesda produced an amazing world which does as good a job as any game out there in feeling like a living world. If you like open world games it is well worth playing.

I prefer autosave off. Makes the game run faster and makes me more careful.

Sadly you can't trust anyone but your self. I can tell you 33 reasons why you should play skyrim, yet you could find 1 reason from first base that will through you off that i enjoyed. The only way to find out is to rent it for 10 bucks or borrow it from a friend. Don't trust anyone but your self.

as for if it's good or not, I love it in my opinion. One reason why people my say it's borring is because it's an RPG, so it's role playing, so if you enjoy that, you can have endless fun with this game making new characters, stories, heck some people when doing a play through write blogs as if they were journals.

again though, it's up to you. Only you can decide.

It's not a bad game, but it most certainly is not as amazing as the hype would have you believe, nor do I believe it entirely deserving of all its praise due to poor design choices, and countless technical issues that would have nearly any other game strung up by a noose. Above all else I would suggest either forming your own opinion, or looking at unbiased opinions from other players, and completely ignoring "professional" reviews from magazines or popular websites.

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I think this is a good thing. Most people that take the time to vocalize their criticisms of a game have actually enjoyed enough of it to actually CARE about it. The presence of a nagging(but persistent) community fanbase really shows how many people are devoted to this franchise. A pretty impressive feat for a videogame.

While people will always have their own opinions the general opinion on Skyrim seem to be that it is a very good game.

One theory that might be right about the amount of angry gamers is that Skyrim was the first ES game that got real mainstream attention and as I am sure you know a lot of gamers don't like that their franchise go mainstream. That could be one of the factors.

I actually love that this series is now mainstream. I'm trying to get the whole sweet role thing to be a joke among me and my mom when she gets them.

Holy [censored] is that the truth. People like their little clubs, and they get pissy that Bethesda didn't stick with just PC and forgo eleventy zillion dollars in sales revenue. And to be honest, if I were a shareholder and found out that Bethesda had made an asinine decision like saying "Eh. Consoles are a fad" then I'd probably have shown up at their offices yelling until I was red in the face.

That said, I think you might have to say Oblivion was when TES broke into the mainstream, simply by virtue of being released for the 360.

Skyrim was when the people my age started thinking the series was cool. And they heard the memes...

Sorry, I can't believe anyone who tells me that they can role play in a game where half the conversations only have 2 dialog options.


Unless you have a radically different version of the game then mine, I just don't see how this is possible. Of course, you and I define "role play" in very different ways.

Yes, well those of us playing from our rocking chairs remember Oblivion because that's when the old folk's home got a copy for the day room 360...DERNED KIDS STAY OFFA MY LAWN!

Pretty sure Morrowind was GOTY. I'm guessing you weren't around when Oblivion was being marketed? Regardless, Skyrim is not the first ES game to garner a lot of mainstream attention. I cannot speak for everyone, but I'm not happy that Skyrim get lauded by fans and near perfect scores from critics when real RPGs (with fewer bugs) get ignored. It seems that GOTY is more about how much you spend on marketing rather than actually trying to be an RPG.

I got my Oblivion on PS3. I'm a kid, sadly, but I kind of mowed that lawn. With a goat.

It's a great game. My wife bought it for me on Christmas. I played it solidly until about February and I burned out a bit. Then I picked it up again late March and went on a marathon until early June. I've burned out again, but not because the game is bad. Now I'm fooling around with GTA 4 again. That's a fun one too, but there are complainers that it's not *open world* enough as well. I've been playing video games since Pong. There is no game as open world as when you can apply your imagination to it. For some people, a deep storyline is required to hold their attention. For others, they can make it up themselves. I fit in both camps. I can play a game like L.A. Noire and appreciate the fantastic story while realizing the gameplay isn't great. Still, a great game. Skyrim, story lacks, but it's about as open world as you can get. There are some people who will, ironically, claim that Skyrim railroads you (ahem... the infamous mob of New Vegas heads), but it really doesn't. Play as you like.

Max Payne 3 is in the mail. And you know what? I'm gonna enjoy that one too. It's basically because I'm a gamer... which means I have fun playing games. Rockstar and Bethesda definitely are two of my favorite game developers.


Aren't those called "Emos"? Another word for pretentious [censored]s who need to get over themselves? Morrowind was my first TES game. I loved it... yes. But, I love Skyrim, too. They're both great games.

It entirely depends on what you mean by the term. If you mean "have a character concept and role for the character I'm playing", then sure, I role play. I refuse to try and do everything with one character and I think the idea of respeccing and being able to undo perk decisions you made two months ago is ridiculous. Last character I played was a good guy, a Nord warrior. Next character will be a ridiculously EEEE-VIL warrior/necromancer/fire mage. Each will act according to their character.

But if you mean "pretend to have meaningful conversations and relationships with the pseudo-people I see in a video game" then no. There isn't a person there. To the extent that role-playing is acting, you have to have another actual flesh-and-blood person on the other end to do that sort of role-playing. You can't role-play - not in that sense of the word - opposite a pile of ones and zeros. You can't role-play opposite an algorithm.

This is why I see the marriage stuff as being inherently a road to nowhere worth going. Bethesda didn't implement marriage poorly; they made a poor decision to implement something that can't be implemented anything but poorly. Am I supposed to care about an e-wife that doesn't actually exist? I could role-play marriage opposite a real flesh-and-blood woman playing a fictional character; I can't role-play anything opposite an algorithm whose response is EXECUTE MARRIAGE BEHAVIOR PROCEDURES - SUBROUTINE LOVE-CHIT-CHAT - RECITE LINES - PLAY SOUND FILE "Oh darling, I was so scared while you were away. Never leave me again, dearest!" - EXECUTE ANIMATION: "KISSYFACE" FOR 00:03 THEN IF NO USER INTERRUPT END ANIMATION SUBROUTINE - RESUME IDLE CYCLE SUBROUTINE: SIT_IN_CHAIR_AND_EAT_BREAD_REPEATEDLY...

See what I mean?

You folks who think Skyrim is getting a lot of anger reactions should have been around here when Morrowind was released. Anger against Skyrim is mild compared to the vicious, bitter attacks directed at Morrowind. Morrowind wasn't a real RPG, Morrowind was just an action game with flashy graphics designed to appeal to young gamers, it had no dialogue, it had no depth, no complexity, ect, ect, ect, ect. To this day I have a chip on my shoulder about Daggerfall because of the constant abuse Daggerfall fans heaped on Morrowind.

It happened when Oblivion was released. It happened when Skyrim was released. And it will happen again when TES VI is released. You learn to tune it out. Anger directed at the latest game is white noise. It;s a bunch of sound and fury signifying nothing. It will happen as long as video games are being made.

And I would say that Morrowind, not Skyrim or Oblivion, was when the series entered the mainstream. That is when the game appeared on the XBox. It drew me to the series, and I was a dedicated first-person shooter at the time. I know others besides myself played their first RPG when Morrowind came out too.

I liked Max Payne 1. I like Rockstar, but that game just doesn't seem up my alley. There's cover shooting, which is probably the FPS of third person shooters. I'm a picky person when you say, "This game has a gun." I ask, "Can I go all Doom on everything?" If no, you might not want to hear more. I started FPSes with Doom and that type of FPS is what I prefer. That type of shooter is what I prefer. Give me 90's AI and taking cover in front of a demon with a gun for a hand over anything when it comes to shooters. Unless I'm playing System Shock. I may be young, but I love oldies.

Could be because the mind of some people can actually function outside of what is presented to them on a big, flashy screen... perhaps... hmm...?


Meh... there are some things I hated about Max Payne 1 (like that level where you're wandering through his nightmare). But "bullet time" was groundbreaking, like it or not. I never played Max Payne 2, just didn't have the time when it came out. But, I trust Rockstar to deliver on great story and strong gameplay. I've played every GTA starting with the first and they've only gotten better with time. RDR was absolutely mindblowing for me. L.A. Noire was weak on gameplay but damn good on story. Bottom line, Rockstar delivers whether a game is weak in one area or another... kind of like Quentin Tarrantino. So, I'm pretty sure I'm going to enjoy the game overall, despite misgivings here and there. Same with Skyrim, there are no gamebrakers for me, though there are things I'd like to have seen done differently. Big deal... I played the damn game for over 200 hours. That means I liked it... a lot.

CROTCHETY OLD BASTARDS FTW!!!1 I've been playing since the Fred Flintstone days when the arcade games were powered by a little dinosaur running around a hamster wheel too...Sometimes I think nobody should complain about video games unless they can remember feeding five bucks of quarters into an arcade game, and having to blow on a console cartridge to get it to work. Nobody should complain about bugs unless they can remember having to deal with Master of Magic.

I've been playing since the days of Space Invaders, the Atari 2600, Adventure, Zork (both are text adventures) and four-color graphics - unless you had a monochrome monitor, like I did.




Holy [censored], I'm old.