SOLUTION: Solving the Lag Issue (Warning, costs money)

Post » Wed May 16, 2012 2:39 am

Just over 10mb dude

Yeah. Getting an SSD would solve your issues. It has solved mine. I can't wait to see how the game will run when Bethesda releases the patch.

How does this one look? Very good reviews, only 64g but very reasonable on price:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441

There shouldn't be any issues with that drive. If you can, buy it form a local store, it will save you the trouble of returning it should anything happen to it.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 11:17 pm

Price difference between 5400rpm and 7200rpm is next to nothing, but the performance difference is rather substantial.

I do agree that shame on bethesda for not optimizing the game. Don't think that they hate ps3. PC users say the exact same thing. Sounds like gamesas were hell bent on releasing the game on 11/11/11, before it was finished and ready for release. That is just poor form.

You guys remember Planescape Torment? After they patched it, it was a great game. But because its initial release was loaded with bugs and not really finished, game mags gave it terrible scores. Why did no publication do this with Skyrim? Probably so they could rush out their reviews on 11/11/11... ha.

iv read its not wise to put a "above default" hdd in the ps3 due to overheating ?
do ssd's create any heat ?

EDIT,
nvm about the sdd question

"SSDs provide many benefits over traditional hard drives. You’ll enjoy reduced power consumption, less heat generation. Because they have no moving parts, SSDs are quiet, more lightweight, and they’re rugged and reliable even in the most demanding operating environments or temperature extremes"
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 12:35 pm

How does this one look? Very good reviews, only 64g but very reasonable on price:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441

You should go with this one : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227737
Better bang for your bucks... Vertex 3 are really good (550Mbps, where your suggestion is 460Mbps AND more expensive).
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 10:38 pm

Crucial makes quality products, so it will work fine.

Just go for the cheaper one to get the maximum value for your hard earned cash really. :)

Everyone will always have different favourite brands, be it intel, Crucial, OCZ, Corsair or whatnot, but they are all more or less the same these days :), especially on a PS3.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 10:44 pm

i ordered this over the ocz. their customer service seems ot be superior.
http://thessdreview.com/our-reviews/the-owc-mercury-extreme-pro-6g-120gb-sata-3-ssd-review-pcmark-vantage-comparison-and-conclusions-2/
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 7:53 am

I don't think a 7200rpm drive would damage a slim ps3 since they are way more resistant to heat than a phat ps3 plus it's only 2-3 degrees difference. Just want to know if its worth buying one for skyrim since SSD is not an option for me. If a 7200rpm drive fixes the issue then that would be fantastic. Please let me know if anyone has tried this. Thanks
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 12:12 am

I don't think a 7200rpm drive would damage a slim ps3 since they are way more resistant to heat than a phat ps3 plus it's only 2-3 degrees difference. Just want to know if its worth buying one for skyrim since SSD is not an option for me. If a 7200rpm drive fixes the issue then that would be fantastic. Please let me know if anyone has tried this. Thanks


I have a 7200rpm 500GB Seagate in my PS3 Slim and I still get tons of laggy play on Skyrim. No other problems with other games including COD Black Ops, Red Dead Redemption, Oblivion, Rage, Bioshock 1&2, Assassins Creed, etc etc
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 6:37 am

I can confirm that the SSD works. I have over 70hrs gameplay, lvl 40 with a 11MB save data size. I'm not getting lag. I think the game uses the HDD as swap file space when it needs more ram. Not very effective memory management. Slow drives (including 7200 rpm) are really affected. Because of the fast random I/O SSDs are capable of they can handle it much better. Also great for GT5 btw.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 9:52 am

I have been thinking of an SSD for my PS3 for some time now. However I recently upgraded from a 1 year old Slim 160 to a New Slim 320 (only cause it came with 3 games - I sold 2 of them back to Gamestop so the cost to me was much lower the full new) I guess I could sell the 160 and use the coin for SSD.

I will wait and see what happens with the patch.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 4:56 am

Gentlemen (and Ladies),

Thank you for finding a temp (if expensive solution) to the issue.

Since hard drive load times have always annoyed me with the PS3 I've decided to get an SSD myself. I noticed a lot of people have gotten OCZ drives on this forum but both newegg and amazon reviews show a high failure rate by 6 months, and crappy customer service on the returns. I've never owned an OCZ, so I can't speak to it myself, but I decided not to take a chance. I searched around a bit and found a lot of SSD's cheaper then I noticed some on this board ordering. I realize that some of you want to be able to move it later, so it makes sense to get the best quality. But for others price may be the main restriction.

I thought it might be nice to post a few deals.

I've just ordered myself an SSD, which will be delivered today. My gf is backing up the data now, and I'll install and post my results after work today. But until then, may I suggest we start posting deals for those who don't have massive cash to drop on SSD? I have the money available, but others do not. And it may help those in the community who are interested in this fix.

In order to keep it cheap, I'm trying to keep it at SATA II (since ps3 does not support SATA III, and the ps3 is my main concern). But i wanted to maintain my storage space, so I ordered a 120gb. I have a slim.

This is what I ordered: 120gb, $146.30 US, Amazon Prime available.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005F30IJK/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details

For actual specs on it, newegg has you covered, but cost is $169.99 US

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820171545&Tpk=sdssdh-120g-g25

Is it as fast as the others? No, but correct me if I'm wrong, it shouldn't make a difference in the ps3.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 4:21 am

Gentlemen (and Ladies),

Thank you for finding a temp (if expensive solution) to the issue.

Since hard drive load times have always annoyed me with the PS3 I've decided to get an SSD myself. I noticed a lot of people have gotten OCZ drives on this forum but both newegg and amazon reviews show a high failure rate by 6 months, and crappy customer service on the returns. I've never owned an OCZ, so I can't speak to it myself, but I decided not to take a chance. I searched around a bit and found a lot of SSD's cheaper then I noticed some on this board ordering. I realize that some of you want to be able to move it later, so it makes sense to get the best quality. But for others price may be the main restriction.

I thought it might be nice to post a few deals.

I've just ordered myself an SSD, which will be delivered today. My gf is backing up the data now, and I'll install and post my results after work today. But until then, may I suggest we start posting deals for those who don't have massive cash to drop on SSD? I have the money available, but others do not. And it may help those in the community who are interested in this fix.

In order to keep it cheap, I'm trying to keep it at SATA II (since ps3 does not support SATA III, and the ps3 is my main concern). But i wanted to maintain my storage space, so I ordered a 120gb. I have a slim.

This is what I ordered: 120gb, $146.30 US, Amazon Prime available.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005F30IJK/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details

For actual specs on it, newegg has you covered, but cost is $169.99 US

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820171545&Tpk=sdssdh-120g-g25

Is it as fast as the others? No, but correct me if I'm wrong, it shouldn't make a difference in the ps3.

Don't let the PS3 controller dictate which drive you get. They are all backwards compatible. What you need to look for is a drive with a solid controller (ie. the sandforce controller used in OCZ drives) than can handle a lot of IO. Maximum transfer rate isn't as important as iops since it looks like the game is using the drive as temporary swap space. So it is mostlly spamming the drive with lots of small IO requests.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 1:58 am

Gentlemen (and Ladies),

Thank you for finding a temp (if expensive solution) to the issue.

Since hard drive load times have always annoyed me with the PS3 I've decided to get an SSD myself. I noticed a lot of people have gotten OCZ drives on this forum but both newegg and amazon reviews show a high failure rate by 6 months, and crappy customer service on the returns. I've never owned an OCZ, so I can't speak to it myself, but I decided not to take a chance. I searched around a bit and found a lot of SSD's cheaper then I noticed some on this board ordering. I realize that some of you want to be able to move it later, so it makes sense to get the best quality. But for others price may be the main restriction.

I thought it might be nice to post a few deals.

I've just ordered myself an SSD, which will be delivered today. My gf is backing up the data now, and I'll install and post my results after work today. But until then, may I suggest we start posting deals for those who don't have massive cash to drop on SSD? I have the money available, but others do not. And it may help those in the community who are interested in this fix.

In order to keep it cheap, I'm trying to keep it at SATA II (since ps3 does not support SATA III, and the ps3 is my main concern). But i wanted to maintain my storage space, so I ordered a 120gb. I have a slim.

This is what I ordered: 120gb, $146.30 US, Amazon Prime available.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005F30IJK/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details

For actual specs on it, newegg has you covered, but cost is $169.99 US

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820171545&Tpk=sdssdh-120g-g25

Is it as fast as the others? No, but correct me if I'm wrong, it shouldn't make a difference in the ps3.

People more knowledgeable than I have posted about this throughout the thread, but from what I've gathered the PS3 hardware/SATA interface will bottle-neck performance of even SATA2 drives. So yes, there is no need to get a fancy new state of the art SSD. You will see no performance gains in your PS3. I think a lot of people on this thread plan on re-using the SSD at a later point, and therefore figure they might as well get state of the art hardware.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 5:40 am

[...] I noticed a lot of people have gotten OCZ drives on this forum but both newegg and amazon reviews show a high failure rate by 6 months, and crappy customer service on the returns. I've never owned an OCZ, so I can't speak to it myself, but I decided not to take a chance. [...]

I was told the same thing before purchasing the OCZ drive. They were convinced I'd be back inside the next year so I asked them what they'd recommend and quickly told me to go for the Corsair.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 9:29 am

I plan to buy a Corsair Force 3 60GB for my ps3, what do you guy think about this one. I still don't know that I should buy this or intel 320 40g (because they about the same price, corsair on paper is faster "up to 500MBs but intel more reliable) I don't know what to do and I want to continue my Skyrim so much I can't wait for the patch.

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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 10:03 pm

I plan to buy a Corsair Force 3 60GB [...]

This is the drive I bought. It works wonders.

Here's my http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1276175-solution-solving-the-lag-issue-warning-costs-money/page__st__120 on how to properly install it. I'll also be making a http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1288009-guide-lag-free-gameplay/ in these forums as I feel people can't quite seem to find their way to my guide within this thread.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 5:30 am

I plan to buy a Corsair Force 3 60GB for my ps3, what do you guy think about this one. I still don't know that I should buy this or intel 320 40g (because they about the same price, corsair on paper is faster "up to 500MBs but intel more reliable) I don't know what to do and I want to continue my Skyrim so much I can't wait for the patch.

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Why consider alternatives when Francais has used and vouched for the Corsair?

Get the Corsair.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 8:55 am

thank you so much. Now I can't sleep anymore because my heart is pounding in my chest make me jsut want to rush out to buy one right now, It's 12:30 a.m here by the way, aw, 9 hours waiting is killing me.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 12:16 pm

funny thing is Skyrim is going to win GOTY yet again which given the circumstances of the release on Ps3 and even pc and less 360 i find preposterous.

not because the game is not good, it is a masterpiece but it is SLOPPY... way too sloppy for journalists to award it such high marks given all the problems it has (at least ps3 version)

When you are talking about an AA release you factor in everything. From the technical polish to the story to the size and the gameplay. Skyrim might take top spots in gameplay size efc etc but its polish is simply pathetic and I simply cannot accept a GOTY game that is simply unplayable on my system of choice because if incompetence and negligence.

Bethesda should get hammered and not win any awards so that they get the memo finally... you need to release a properly functioning game for once, not a broken one.

But you see everyone just doesnt care. Ps3 version is at 95/100 on metacritic... i mean if a game that becomes unplayable gets 95 and a GOTY award then why should bethesda even care to improve and respect the ps3 community. They got high marks they got goty so they wont give a [censored] once again next time...

we are to blame simply....

Please. don't say that. You have to consider skyrim at it best, like the PC version. I myself really hate Beth for a buggy PS3 game, a bug that cause the game to the point of unplayable but the other version work finr, right? So I think Skyrim deserve to be GOTY.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 10:17 pm

Please. don't say that. You have to consider skyrim at it best, like the PC version. I myself really hate Beth for a buggy PS3 game, a bug that cause the game to the point of unplayable but the other version work finr, right? So I think Skyrim deserve to be GOTY.


You are joking right? Please tell me you do....

So because the PC version of the game "works" (you obviously havent checked the PC issues) and PS3 version is broken, the game deserves to be GOTY? And what is the message across the board if that is the case? That next time bethesda wont give a crap YET AGAIN for me as a customer and the whole PS3 community. They will again sell their broken product to millions of people earning tons of cash for a game that cannot be played. And they are going to get an AWARD for that??

IT IS REALLY [censored] SAD TO SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THAT REALLY!

Bethesda robbed me. They promised me a game of equal quality to the 360 version, they promised me a playable game and they robbed me 60$ and 60 hours of my life. I wont [censored] give them any awards for that just because the "pc version works"... for [censored] sake what is wrong with you people...
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 2:25 pm

I angry as much as you do and for an asia coutry like mine, 60$ for me is more than for you. Skyrim definitely won't get any vote from me as the best game on PS3 this year, but set about the overrall experience the game offer, and we not yet know that the second path won't fix the lagging issue (and I knnow that they still can't fix the problem for fallout). But we can't just let the rage make us dump Skyrim, it a great game afterall. this threat is for a temp way out for PS3 owners with a love for Skyrim have a smooth game play, so please calm down and forget all about that "GOTY", "being robbed" or anynthing that make you hate Skyrim, hate Bethesda and just play Skyrim, that the most important thing.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 3:51 am

This maybe irrelevant but can I ask that has you guy ever try to play game on a hacked PS3? You know that PS3 firmware 3.55 and now 3.60 was hacked, right? I played FallOut 3 GOTY edition and FallOut NV on a hacked PS3 with the game data completely store in PS3's hdd and sometime in an external drive, played game without a game disc and I didn't experience any lag only freeze but that too very limited. So, do you think that the game lag because of how the PS3 use blu-ray?
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 7:51 am

Why consider alternatives when Francais has used and vouched for the Corsair?

Get the Corsair.

And I'm vouching for the intel ;).

If the prices are the same, get the intel.

In fairness, I think both will serve you faithfully and just fine.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 2:25 pm

Bethesda robbed me. [...] They promised me a playable game and they robbed me 60$ and 60 hours of my life. I wont [censored] give them any awards for that... for [censored] sake what is wrong with you people...

This poses an interesting conundrum... you're saying that you have willingly sunk 60 hours into something you deem a helplessly buggy game... WILLINGLY 60 HOURS without stopping somewhere along the way to consider why you are doing it, and you are saying that a game capable of that feat isn't worthy of game of the year? Sounds pretty much like a perfect candidate if it manages to pull that off tbh! <3
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 5:00 am

After install Corsair Force 3 60GB the game run smoothly, just a few lag now and there even when the game autosave there no framerate drop. I currently at my 8 hours play continuosly and the game run fine.
Hoorayyy
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 12:31 am

This poses an interesting conundrum... you're saying that you have willingly sunk 60 hours into something you deem a helplessly buggy game... WILLINGLY 60 HOURS without stopping somewhere along the way to consider why you are doing it, and you are saying that a game capable of that feat isn't worthy of game of the year? Sounds pretty much like a perfect candidate if it manages to pull that off tbh! <3

Its not a conundrum at all. I never said I despise the core of the game, nor the fact that under all the crap we have to deal with, it is an awesome game. But I had to play 30 hours to start having problems that made my next 30 hours unbearable. Yeah I wanted to continue and I spent most of my time in these 30 hours trying to figure out what is the cause of the problem and why.

So yeah Skyrim is a great game. If it works. And I cannot award it a GOTY award (not even candidate to be honest) just in the context of "when it works". Atm Skyrim doesnt work for a huge amount of people. It does not even constitue a game at its current form. It is unplayable, therefore it doesnt deserve to be prasied at all.

A product is judged overall, not by just how much you like it. Its like me buying a Ferrari and loving every minute my Ferrari runs. But if my ferrari keeps breaking down and is full of problems, what am I going to say as a customer? "It is the best car I ever had when it worked?"

Ofc not, I will call it junk. Because I cannot use it at all, no matter how awesome it was when it was working. No conundrum at all. Game was good when it worked....game doesnt work...I feel robbed as a customer because if I knew this beforehand I would never had bought it. Thats for sure.
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