SOLUTION: Solving the Lag Issue (Warning, costs money)

Post » Wed May 16, 2012 2:00 pm

False. I have a top of the line SSD and while it may improve load times by a hair, does not stop you from getting lag. Sorry.

What SSD are you using? How much free space is on it?

I just want to find a working method to make the game playable for anyone, so any data is helpful here.
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Kahli St Dennis
 
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 5:55 am

pay 60 dollars for a game that is broken pay another hundred and pray it works lol no thanks ill be waiting for bethesda to do there job and patch the frame rate and save issue
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 10:01 am

Asuka, could you also show some battle, horse riding and some more Whiterun's mess (marketplace, plaza, etc.)?
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 7:03 am

False. I have a top of the line SSD and while it may improve load times by a hair, does not stop you from getting lag. Sorry.
More details please.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 1:51 pm

How did you put your save file on your new hard drive?
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 4:29 am

How did you put your save file on your new hard drive?


THIS. I have the money for an SSD no problem. I'll just pull it out when I'm done with Skyrim and throw it in my PC. How do you transfer the data, and could you just put your old one back in.

THanks
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 5:01 am

THIS. I have the money for an SSD no problem. I'll just pull it out when I'm done with Skyrim and throw it in my PC. How do you transfer the data, and could you just put your old one back in.

THanks
Copy the save file to a USB key, or to the PS+ cloud, if you're a member..
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 5:43 am

Copy the save file to a USB key, or to the PS+ cloud, if you're a member..

Yep I was just doing some research how to do it online. I guess you it's really easy. You literally just pull out your HD and put in a SSD. The PS3 formats it and everything itself. Use the backup utility on a USB drive. The only thing I would be worried about is losing my saved game at this point, but I would still have original HD.

At this point I don't mind spending the money. I like in South Korea and got the normal edition of the game BRAND new for about 45$ (no idea how it was so cheap). I feel like I'm really cheating myself out of a good experience by playing this amazing game in laggy circumstances. And I CANT wait for them to fix it, this game is too good, and I haven't played any GREAT games in some time. Also, when I'm done with skyrim Ill just put the original HD back in and use the SSD on my future computer.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 10:28 am

Yep I was just doing some research how to do it online. I guess you it's really easy. You literally just pull out your HD and put in a SSD. The PS3 formats it and everything itself. Use the backup utility on a USB drive. The only thing I would be worried about is losing my saved game at this point, but I would still have original HD.

At this point I don't mind spending the money. I like in South Korea and got the normal edition of the game BRAND new for about 45$ (no idea how it was so cheap). I feel like I'm really cheating myself out of a good experience by playing this amazing game in laggy circumstances. And I CANT wait for them to fix it, this game is too good, and I haven't played any GREAT games in some time. Also, when I'm done with skyrim Ill just put the original HD back in and use the SSD on my future computer.

Can't wait for your story after buying the SSD drive, if it helps, I am likely to buy one myself.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 11:58 am

Can't wait for your story after buying the SSD drive, if it helps, I am likely to buy one myself.


Well, I'm going to the tech market RIGHT now, but I have dinner plans so I might not get around to doing the install for 5-6 hours. You can be sure I'll post the results ASAP here. Just subscribe to this.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 12:02 pm

I'd also rather buy a X-Box and also leaving Sony behind... Maybe Sony can put a bit pressure on Bethesda when they hear that people turn away from this console!

But I'd rather get my 3rd tattoo for 300 bucks than buying some other console
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 8:57 am

Well, I'm going to the tech market RIGHT now, but I have dinner plans so I might not get around to doing the install for 5-6 hours. You can be sure I'll post the results ASAP here. Just subscribe to this.
Good to hear it!
And yeah, don't forget about the food while playing skyrim, it's still more important than slaying a dragon!
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 10:44 am

Wish I had the money to experiment with this kind of solution :P You're right when you say it's not for everybody. But it's not a bad idea. If this isn't something they can fix by patching at all i'll take it as a sign that the future of pretty open world gaming on the PS3 is in need of assistance and give in.

I didn't read all the replies so sorry if i'm repeating somebody buuut

I noticed that my framrate issues and general lag worsened once I had been playing for a longer period of time. It was MUCH better after I restarted my PS3. Still present but not nearly as painful as it was. Save file size might bother me once I get a few characters made.. Cloud saves will be fun to re-obtain for this game >_>
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 7:49 am

Hey there! Sorry for the lack of reply, I was asleep. (European Time ;))

I can record some footage of large scale battles no problem, but atm my console has been shut off for the night so I'm going to make it sweat a bit and then upload some footage to show what it looks like "stressed".

Transferring your saved games is a cinch. In your XMB (Cross Media Bar, that's the PlayStations "home screen" as it were) head all the way to the left to all the settings and update menus and locate System Settings. Inside that menu you have a Backup tool. This will backup the entire hard drive to an external USB unit (attached via cable. This also copies any game data, PSN titles or such you might have on it). Confirm and let it copy. This will take a few hours so go have a coffee or play some WoW or smth to pass the large amount of time it needs. After this is done, click on your trophy collection as if you were browsing it, this "synchronizes" the trophies to the PSN, backing them up.

Once it's done and SUCCESSFUL (if it fails, try again), just change the hard drive (it's really easy and you don't need to disassemble your PS3 at all, just open a hatch on the side, there's plenty of youtube videos covering how you do this) and boot up the PS3. It's going to recognize the new drive and want to format it. MAKE IT SO *queue Star Trek music*.

Now you'll be in a PS3 that has your user accounts and PSN details and trophies when you perform the next sync, but no data. Just head back to the System Settings and the Backup Tool. Now you want to RESTORE from backup. This should be much quicker than making the actual backup but still take an hour or so for most PS3s. It will take longer if you have 500 gigs of data in there or something. Once that's done the PS3 will behave just like it did before you swapped the drive out, having restored all the game data and save data to the moment when you backed it up.


EDIT: Might as well add this in. If you're impatient and just want to back the save games up, you can do so in the save data utility. There's a tutorial for both a full backup and the save data utility on this site: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-back-up-and-import-ps3-game-saves/ I'd suggest the full backup personally, since you wont have to reinstall all the game data for your games again, but that's just me. There won't be an issue with copying your saves to an USB drive and back (due to copyright saves and whatnot) as long as it is to the SAME USER ON THE SAME PS3. The game will go bat[censored] at you otherwise since it thinks you are cheating it out of trophies or something.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 10:00 pm

Any news, Funkfactory?
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 2:04 pm

Any news, Funkfactory?

Just got home. I have my SSD. Going to back up my system saves and then go from there. This might be awhile, but I'll post as soon as I'm in game. Wish me luck. Also, big thank to Asuka for posting all this info.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 10:10 pm

Just got home. I have my SSD. Going to back up my system saves and then go from there. This might be awhile, but I'll post as soon as I'm in game. Wish me luck. Also, big thank to Asuka for posting all this info.
Good luck!
Can't wait for (I hope) smooth gameplay report! :)
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 3:08 am

Well I got everything ready, but I stripped one of the screws on my PS3 hard drive. It's 1:30 am here in Asia so I'm gonna have to wait until the morning. Luckily I live by a bunch of tool/metal shops so it should be no problem to get my hard drive fixed. I'll update you guys asap. I'm pretty upset that I cant get this rolling tonight either, but oh well. I'll get up early and play all day tomorrow LOL.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 11:49 am

Well I got everything ready, but I stripped one of the screws on my PS3 hard drive. It's 1:30 am here in Asia so I'm gonna have to wait until the morning. Luckily I live by a bunch of tool/metal shops so it should be no problem to get my hard drive fixed. I'll update you guys asap. I'm pretty upset that I cant get this rolling tonight either, but oh well. I'll get up early and play all day tomorrow LOL.
Ohno, are u kiddin us? :D man lol, aww so bad I have to wait until morning... Anyway thanks and good luck.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 7:41 am

this sounds more risky than helpful to me... i have no idea what effect it would have on all my other games, or any future games, and i also dont know for sure that it would even fix the problem i have with skyrim, which is my file getting too big at around 8500kb... making the game lag and freeze.

i'd rather bethesda release a fix for this, or sony release an official upgrade to the ps3, instead of me having to grab some random items from a store and break my ps3 into pieces trying to upgrade it.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 4:43 am

The effect it would have on your future games would that they would run smoother and youd have a hard drive that has less of a chance to fail or overheat.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 3:11 am

Okay, before you get your knickers in a twist and downrate me since this solution will actually cost you some money, let me say outright that it sorted every single issue I had with Skyrim. FPS slowdowns, latency, crashes, vendors suddenly losing the "What do you have for sale?" option... the lot.

The issue seems to not only be with the size of the autosave, but also how much the game manages to load around you while simultaneously trying to save your game. The solution is to speed up your harddrive.


In my own PS3 I installed an intel 320 Solid State drive, 80 gigs. Got it for under 100 USD at my local retailer. Installing it is a cinch (using an old Fat PS3, 60 gigs) and Skyrim runs like a dream. Load times are cut by about half, and no latency is apparent even during extended periods of play. Also, load times do not "extend" as you play, they remain at a flat around 10-15 seconds when fast travelling.

My friend has a slim and customized it to contain a 7200 RPM drive (as opposed to a 5400 RPM that is the standard in the PS3s) and he's still having some slowdown, but not nearly as much as I had on my old 5400 RPM drive.

Another solution if you are unwilling to form out the cash for a pure SSD drive is getting a Seagate Momentus XT drive or similar which has a harddrive portion and a small SSD portion where it places recently accessed stuff, getting you almost up to SSD standard at a lower cost.


Again, I realize this solution is not for everyone, but it will give you a perfect game for less money than the extra cost for a Skyrim Collectors compared to a normal one, and it will boost your future games as well, lowering their load times considerably.

Just thought I'd throw this out there in case people that are willing to upgrade their units are reluctant to do so since they are unsure if it will have the desired effect.


Tally ho,
Asuka, Proud owner of PS3 with (as of Skyrim) an SSD drive.


EDIT: Uploaded a vid of the performance with a 10 meg savefile and 4 hours of uptime on the PS3 with the SSD in it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EoXcw5FhjM


I remove all auto save file and disable it in game menu and my game is no more lagging.
I played 4+ hours straight today and I'm on a 9.6+ mb save file whit a lot of place discovered.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 8:09 am

I remove all auto save file and disable it in game menu and my game is no more lagging.
I played 4+ hours straight today and I'm on a 9.6+ mb save file whit a lot of place discovered.

Hmm It's not letting me format my SSD. Does it matter if I got a SATA 3 SSD?
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 1:09 pm

Which brand did you get? A friend warned me that if I got one of these I need to make sure it's one that doesn't require any drivers.. It needs to be able to "present" itself to the PS3 like a mechanical HDD would..
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 3:11 am

Which brand did you get? A friend warned me that if I got one of these I need to make sure it's one that doesn't require any drivers.. It needs to be able to "present" itself to the PS3 like a mechanical HDD would..

OCZ agility 3. I think it might need drives, how would I do that. I cant use it on my computer cause I have a Mac...I could try to take it back to the shop and ask them to put drivers on it?
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