Splitscreen and multiplayer are 2 entirely different things, just like co-op and multiplayer. Even though you do play with other people, splitscreen is not typically reffere4d to as "multiplayer." Multiplayer in games refers to playing with and against other players ONLINE. It usually must be with AND against or just against players online to be considered multiplayer. If it is only playing with people and not against, then it drops into co-op.

The only way you can possibly consider splitscreen multiplayer, is if you use the term "local multiplayer," and even then, it's not really accurate, since local MP usually refers to like LAN's, where everyone is on their own machine and it still requires an internet connection, not sharing a screen offline, like splitscreen does.


As mentioned, LAN and splitscreen are 2 different things, so I'm not sure why you included it when speaking about splitscreen.

alrighty to straighten this out with everybody when i used the term splitscreen i meant like 4 people on the same screen playing as a team or against each other offline and with this game it would still be possible to do with the AI not being completely useless
that is if SD was to even bother taking the time to make this it is somewhat time consuming
honestly BRINK keeps getting pushed back because of competition i mean think about it sep.7th- around the time COD and medal of honor comes out
feb.- around the time killzone 3 and deus ex or something like tht somes out
not many cames come out in march so its the ideal time
so the only thing they could be really working on is touching up the game, eliminating bugs, and possibly adding new content (gus/costums/maps/objectives)

there's no point in discussing, because they haven't put it in, and they're probably not going to either.
you yourself said it would decrease the graphics of the game, or cause lag


4player splitscreen?
big screen or lowsy graphs. probably lowsy graphs anyway.
and imagine 3players waiting for the fourth to FINALLY get his character customized, and then they realize he still has to pick a gunloadout and abilities

It's not getting pushed because of "competition." It's getting pushed simply because it's done yet. Look the E3 demo and the recently released footage - BIG difference. When you can actually notice the amount of polish that has been done to a game, you know it's not ready to be released yet. If it was for "competition" reasons, why release in Spring 2011 (Q1)? Do you know whats supposed to come out around that time:

March releases:

Dragon Age 2
Deus Ex 3
The Witcher 2
Crysis 2
Ghost Recon: Future Soldier

some of those got pushed back from there original dates to

It still doesn't change the fact that Brink was delayed for polish and balance. Simple gameplay videos show that.

do u think tht it take 6 months to polish a game...thts some serious polishing if so

I believe it was also to properly balance everything as well. From an interview i saw after the delay they said some abilities needed refining and more time for balance. The brink team is also not a large team, so depending on how large the game is it could be an awful lot of prettying up for not that many artists.

first off, it's polish AND balance - they are still in alpha/pre-beta...
ans second, saying "Spring 2011" doesn't necessarily mean it will take until then. They could've easily just said Spring as a "safety net" release date, knowing that they will be done by then at the latest, and possibly release before it.

^ hemad

There is no such thing as too much balance and polish.

i agree, and its best for the gamer =D

This is also new, Online multiplayer was made popular by halo 2 for consoles, the end of multiplayer being referred to as "splitscreen" pretty much too.
I agree that splitscreen should be referred to as local multiplayer. Console local and Computer local are definally different.

These two modes branch off, which kills splitscreen. Consoles have more than one controller available for them right? I am pretty sure xbox can have up to four controllers, as does PS3. The consoles are MADE for splitscreen. THATS why you buy a console. otherwise, get a PC, im pretty sure most games that are for the consoles are available for PC with better GFX, FPS, custom mods, a much better stats tracking, admin servers, just about its better in everyway for single player online.

Consoles are made for splitscreen, Computers are not.

This is not the only game to not include splitscreen for games, alot of games are discourageing splitscreen. why chill with your friends when they can be at home playing their own system? I want to play with my buddies RIGHT NEXT TO ME online. for some reason, games just dont want to do this. (If this is because companys think they are not getting money becasue they think people just all clutter together and play for free at a buddies, I belive that is wrong, I myself cannot afford 60$ games every time a game comes out. Thats so much money. If anyone else has this mindset, your most likely going to buy the game when its around 30-40$ months after the release. People cannot just go and buy a 60$ game most of the time, If you can, your a lucky one.)

I am more concerned with the fun of the game rather than gfx, thats the easy part, getting the perfect game is the hardest part. and every little bit to make it better helps.


Yes there is a point in discussing it, 1 is freedom of speech (btw thats not a "god" given right =P) and 2 this is the topic in the forum that the game developers set up so the community could say what they wanted about the game and get some questions answered.

Touching on release dates, If anyone here has worked on a game project, you know its most likely not going to relase on time, EVER. =P just the nature of things.
awesome feedback again thanks alot!

:BTW some things I say are based off my own opinion, you may or may not agree, thats why we have this discussion. say your opinion:

at least there wont be split-screen so nothing to worry about for me

Your "freedom of speech" means little to nothing, in a controlled environment, like this forum. If freedom of speech held much merit, we wouldn't need Moderators.

There is always hope!

Not always.

For the record, anyone is allowed to create a topic about anything they want on this forum so long as it adheres to forum rules (which everyone here, by virtue of creating an account, agreed to follow by,) isn't already covered in another topic, and is relevant to the sub-forum it's place in. Whether or not split-screen has any chance of being in the game really has nothing to do with whether or not it's a "valid" topic to discuss. (It's viability in this game, obviously, is relevant to the discussion in this thread - but has nothing to do with whether or not us Mods feel it's lock-worthy.)

If you dislike the existence of a particular thread (for reasons I can't fathom) then I'd recommend simply not posting in it and letting it drop off the front page. (And of course, please do report any questionable conduct or threads - that's often the quickest and most efficient way to get moderator attention...)

Funny how it works =P

Agreed, a cool game you play single or online and your friends come over and you want to play, but you can't. not cool man, not cool.
developers, is it really that hard to code that in the beginning of development or that much time? maybe it's the publishers that front the dev's; tell them to lose it because it's too much bang for the buck.
B2???? please?

So true.

lol glad someone around here noticed

im pretty sure someone has said it before
but splash damage makes pc games
and pc gamers don't need splitscreen
so that may be why they're not putting it in

for brink specifically? i dont care much. but in general? DEFINITIVELY! split screen (the more its split the better) is just super fun, much much better than over the internet. its just so much better when they are actually there, its not just about the gaming, its just more fun.

split-screen on pc or if u have a small tv is a terrible idea.