I was really looking forward to playing BF3 :nope:

I'll never understand why people buy DL games when physical copies cost less over time. This especially the case with older games.

most start by offering a better product, which they don't have; or a better means of delivering their "similar" product to the consumer, which they aren't doing. they are only trying to use the exclusive card which isn't that great when their exclusives are mediocre

Its a huge disappointment well EA decision just saved me lots of money. They should have kept there games on steam (and future games) but make it cheaper on origin. Well either way ill NEVER try origin crap and ill stay with steam and No steam = no buy.

that makes no sense, why would it be more expensive 'over time' to buy games online?

http://pc.ign.com/articles/117/1176517p1.html Apparently Crytek made an agreement with another company which violated some rule Steam has for hosting content.

Maybe this is all just a big misunderstanding and EA isn't pulling future titles from Steam at all.

read my post from the previous page. Battlefield3 and SWTOR are flagship titles that will sell, no matter if you or I like them.
There is a lot of sense to what they're doing with a solid strategy, from which PC gamers may profit from in the end.

There are many reasons to DL games rather then get physical copies.

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Hopefully this is true.

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Uh... what? Have you ever seen a steam sale before? It's ridiculous how cheap they sell stuff for.

Hmm. Curiouser and curiouser. It'd be interesting if they could get Valve to comment, though it seems like Valve's traditional policy on these sorts of things is to lie low and say nothing.

With the way Crytek has been going lately with epic customer support failures, poor QA, and the total mess that's been made of Crysis 2's multiplayer, a screw-up on this order on their parts doesn't really surprise me, I have to say. I'm still naturally suspicious of EA, though, mind. This "agreement" with "another company" could still turn out to be EA's Origin service. Just saying. That's some epic PR spin they've got going there.

This also doesn't explain why the new Alice game is available via Direct2Drive and Origin but not Steam.

I've noticed Steam doesn't always have titles available at launch, so it may be coming.

Still odd that it isn't listed as "coming soon" though.

I don't really like how EA works, but if we're talking about who can take steam on I bet Impulse has a better shot at it.

Me to. I had a freaking blast with BF2. I was even considering buying it day one......something I rarely do any more. (TES/Fallout series excluded......Fable series to....yes, I said Fable.) Not so likely now.

Not since they got bought out by GameStop. Most PC gamers I know won't touch GameStop with a ten foot pole.

These be turbulent times for the internet.

So what's the deal with EA? They seem to make good games, but they also seem to do everything they can to keep people from buying them with their DRM.

I don't particularly like Steam but I could live with it. Now something else? I guess EA games are kind of off my list now. But fortunately Skyrim should keep me occupied for a while.

Origins has a clause saying they can shut down your account if you haven't been active for a certain period of time. So I'm going to say goodbye to everything EA and origin exclusive, [censored] them. If they package their games with origin built into it then I'm done.

from the article linked above


this seems to be a case of Steam's own rules hurting Steam



yeah, maybe publishers should try not to be so reliant on the internet with all that's happened lately.

What are these rules? Maybe it says you can't kick the customer in the nuts with poor service and Crytek failed or something. Don't be so quick to judge them until we see them. They could be in place to protect consumers, in which case Steam is sacrificing sales so that you don't get ripped off. Then again it could be something shady, we don't know. Would need to see.

Actually that's not exclusive to Origin, that clause is for any and all EA accounts (for example Bioware accounts are also an EA account) so will affect you even if you buy from steam or retail services if the game has an online component requiring an account.
(of course that's even worse, but just so we have the facts straight here )

Your Bioware, Deadspace, EA, Origin accounts are all one and the same thing.

Yea, but it was decentralized and there was no cost with it. Your game wasn't tied to your account like it will be with Origins. So if the account for Mass Effect closes you might lose your DLC and achievements whatever. But the game is still yours to play. If your Origins account closes you lose everything. Perspective. Well it seems that way, we have to see it in action to know. It's a pretty suspicious thing to add into a clause for a system meant to compete and fill the role that Steam does.

Well they didn't add it just now. This whole thing has existed since years, they only rebranded it from EA downloadmanager to Origins so far. They're going to expand and change it a lot considering it's in beta now.

And to be honest brutal termination clauses are nothing uncommon, just look at World of Warcraft


And that clause right there also counts for EVERY SINGLE Blizzard game that uses the battlenet or is tied to your battlenet account.


Steam also reserves the right to terminate the agreement if you conduct anything that they may deem detrimental to the experience of other users (which is also very broad).

Because the price of physical copies drops substabtially.

Those are CAN and COULD, but this is WILL after a certain time. Lame, so so lame, oh so lame. It may have existed for years but on such a small scale it would be an annoyance. Losing all of your stuff after a long period of time is useless. What if TV's self destructed if they were kept off for a long time? Sometimes you put old things away to enjoy them later on down the road. This is senseless money mongering tactic typical of EA.

What does the clause actually say? And I don't mean a paraphrase, I mean the exact clause.