Yes, but he's one that shouldn't exist. As bad as the Thalmor tend to be, Talos is a greater atrocity to nirn.

Talos has had many truly godlike avatars throughout the Eras and is an amalgamation of many Aedric entities. True story. Hes as much a god as Shezarr or Lorkhan.

okay. but then why don't dragonborns get worshiped, i want the npcs to bow down before my presence, yet they just insult me most of the time, i swear if they weren't important characters they would be ..

Not every dragonborn is talos, also they regard you as a freak, like in the witcher.

Tiber Septim killed a lot of people that is true but his goal was to create a unified prosperous empire. The Thalmor are killing a lot of people, with the goal of killing everyone and everything. I am not going to make an argument that Tiber Semptims actions are justified, but i can’t imagine a scenario where he wouldn’t be a lesser of two evils when compared to the Thalmor.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Book_of_the_Dragonborn

Juicy glorious lore.

If he had 70 or 80 luck like the guy in the Tribunal expansion then I might have to reload a few times, so yes on a good day, and he had that coin, so I imagine he had a lot of luck too (seriously that guy was the hardest thing to kill in any Beth game Ive played, Mama Deathclaws got nothin on him)

Never did I claim for him to be a saint, but in the end, the end justifies the means. Kill a thousand to save a billion. There no doubt in my mind Tamriel would have suffered more bloodshead without the Empire and without Tiber Septim than it did with his rise.

That book reaks of Imperial propaganda trying to force a link to the other Septims as Dragonborn. Bullocks I say.

kill a thousand to save a million kind of sounds like what the empire is doing, they try to look at the big picture

Except their not looking at the big picture. The big picture is that the Thalmor are trying to destroy mankind, and instead of fighting them, their content to accept a shameful peace while the Thalmor set in their glassy towers in Alinor and watch the world fall before them.

they're not content, nor are they going to have peace forever, the blades are coming back!

Meh, blades.

Of cource the Thalmor will end up on the loosing side no matter what. For them to win would mean the end of the world so its mute anyway heh.

well, here is the question, do you want to ride dragons across nrin or do you want to take spaceships to other planets, we can't advance in technology if we are held back by ancient relics, unfortunately the stormcloaks go in that category as well.

Skyrim is a mythical world, the planets are planes are not in actual space, therefor this is not possible.

And also, if after thousands of years they are not this advanced i believe they never will be.

how can the planets be planes when i see two round moon out in space every time i look up.

readyourlore. Also the moons are made of a dead god.

And if they were that close to mundus the tidal effects would flood the planet, therefor physics do not apply in the ES universe..

1) Nobody is perfect. Hell, Saint Pelinal was an insane racist mass murderer and look what good he accomplished!
2) Lorkhan being a traitor is a very Aldmeri creationist point of view. The human point of view regards him as a hero. It can be argued both ways.

No, its canon lore.

Vehk is the greatest god in the history of Tamriel, the only one that truly cares for mortals.
Vehk is not and never was powerless, he has achieved CHIM and sits with the Ruling King at the Provisional House.

Yet, he's indirectly responsible for the Thalmor-as-we-know-them. Prior to that, the Aldmeri Dominion was far more benevolent.

Talos is not a divinity. He's neither Aedra nor Daedra. But he could very well be an aspect/incarnate of a divinity.

I think it's unclear whether any mortal can ever really ascend to the divines. The Tribunal tried, but they only achieved their might by parasiting it off the power of Lokhran, and casting them down was as easy as severing their link to that power.


^This^

The Thalmor might even actually believe Talos is a divinity, or a very powerfull aspect of a divinity. Why else would they even care about Talos worship if their ultimate goal is to undo the trickery of Lokhran. (Destroying Nirn, re-ascending their people to their "righfull place.) It's quite possible they wish to severely weaken him by putting an end to people worshiping him. In the grand scheme of the Thalmor their claims to aspire religious purity by inquisition seems like a pretext to me, a disguise for their real intentions.


Add to that, that by removing Talos/Ysmir from the Imperial/Nord pantheon they remove the "spititual" motivator for them as a people to dominate. Possibly demoralising them further if you consider Talos/Ysmir to be the deification of the empire itself, it's ideals/goals/etc, and not just the deification of the mortal Tiber Septim. Besides that there's also an obvious strategical/political reason for removing Talos/Ysmir from the pantheon: it will cause division within Imperial/Nord society, factionizing them, possibly triggering civil wars and instability.

What do you mean Talos is not a god? What do you mean you have not heard of his deeds?

Have you never heard of the Empire, but clearly grasp the fact he was a mortal, accended to the Divines?
Have you not set foot on the continent that Tiber claimed as his own, united, for the people of Tamriel?
Have you not heard of the Stormcloaks, fighting so that a world in debt to Tiber will not forget his name?

Tiber Septim may have been a mortal. Talos..? Talos is not.