I love the Thalmor because I hate them so much! Most of the times I feel pretty indifferent about the antagonists in a game and I just battle them because I'm meant to do that, but I really enjoy obliterating Thalmor patrols with burning fury!

They're great badguys with lots of potential and hope that I'll see more of them in the future.

Thalmor are very annoying, I do see them as very nazi like. The stormcloaks are my enemy since I side with the empire and while they have nazi like traits, even I will admit they dont take it to the extremes nearly as much. Though I do enjoy a bit of irony that they are both similar in several ways.

I always enjoy when the go on and on about the 'might of the thalmor' and all that, might eh? You seem to bleed and die like a basic bandit, not sure what you are talking about.

I owe them a lot of archery skill ups... dozens...

if thats what they tried to do than sure, but it's not. all they have to do is admit altmer superiority and submit to the thalmor and they get to live under the rule of the thalmor. the stormcloaks don't even give such an option every non-nord should be thrown out of skyrim with force or be killed just for not beeing a nord. the screams a lot more nazi than the thalmors more classic evil "want to rule the world"

I do hate the Thalmor, and I don't like that. I like story-lines where the evil nature of the enemy is ambiguous.

I don't. Ambiguity is kind of a fashion nowadays, and I'm pretty tired of it. It's good to have back the good ol' "bad guys without a doubt".

Also, less remorses when killing them.

Look up a liittle lore on the aldmeri dominion they don't want to rule the world they want to erase it, if the Thalmor win Peaple won't just be living under they're rule they'll be dead, the Thalmors main goal is to eradicate all human life.

This ^^^

plus for the stormcloaks I don't really see it as they believe that they are superior to elves but they just don't believe elves are superior to them. The thalmor on the other hand belive themselves to be the superior race. Plus id say that the nords have more of a reason to dislike the elves considering that their ancestors were almost compleatly eradicated by the Falmer ( before they were decrepit cave creatures) when they first came to tamreil. that sound much more reasonable than the "we think we are gods and you won't let us be gods so we will kill everybody" attitude the thalmor have.

If you want to sympathize with them, their plan will return everyone to Et'ada, not just themselves. Some may find it unfortunate that mankind has to be killed and returned to soulstuff for them to be able to return to being et'ada too, but that's the way it has to be for it to work.

The Thalmor aren't great villains. They're decent antagonists, but they're not great villains. They're smarmy Nazi-elves; every horribad elven stereotype ever.

In many ways, this cliche evil just adds to the experience to me Something about having a clearly defined form of evil gives me something to base my actions upon. My only complaint is that you can't REALLY make a character that follows their line of thought. What happened to the signature "do what you want" experience we're used to seeing in Elder Scrolls games?

Well the altmer believe men to be closer to Lorkhan/ shezzar who is the son of sithis/ padomay/ change/ what ever the hell else he is called. therefor they would believe them to be closer to the dedra than the et'ada.
that's how I interpret it anyway.

by the way im getting this all form here http://www.imperial-library.info/category/tags/altmer its mostly in the last two sections.

now I'm not saying that you are wrong about humans also possibly returning (if that is even what would happen for anybody in the first place) just that the thalmor don't believe that they will. Hell they even state in game that a man can never become a god.

An expansion that allows you to do that, or to destroy them, and goes more into what the Thalmor are about, would be interesting. Though I do think that ambiguity is more interesting than either/or--I like things that make me think before I go on a killing spree.

Their ultimate goal is to destroy man by destroying the God Lorkhan, if they do this they may then once again transcend as they used to

yes that's why the thalmor exterminated every bosmer after the altmer took the throne of valenwood, oh wait they didn't.

but at least they killed every redguard they saw when they invaded hammerfell, what they didn't do that either? thoughs b1tches how dare they leave any individual of a inferior race alive they are such nazis for not killing them all, oh wait the nazi wanted to exterminate an entier race. that's exactly what the thalmor do!! except for the whole exterminating thing.

i could go on, but it's good to keep som sarcasm in reserv

Man, Mer, and Khajiit(But not argonians) have a common ancestor. Ehlnofey. They're all made with the same soulstuff. Men are souls that still have the idea of mortality imprinted on them. When a person dies, their soul is sent to the dreamsleeve where it is recycled. They lose those concepts and only get them back if they're reincarnated again into a body that is mortal.

No idea what will happen to the hist and argonians. I doubt they'll approve though.

Thalmor=racists..
And i think its good they are in the game x) Always fun to have some enemy to hate really much.
But we need more thalmor related quests

I don't know why everybody thinks the Stormcloaks are racist. Every single province has their own native race and each one (except for Cyrodiil) think that only they should be there. Only Altmer are aloud into the Summerset Isles, Dunmer think themselves superior to everyone as well and so hate outsiders in Morrowind. Black Marsh is run by an anti-imperial government in a province which would kill all non-Argonians. The other provinces are much like Skyrim in their belief that they are kinda better than the rest.

In racism it goes:
Altmer/Dunmer
Argonians/Khajiit/Nords
The rest.

Anyway the Imperials look down on others as well.

Hey, you can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs right?

Every time i see a party of Thalmor soldiers,I butcher them up. There's at least a good few dozen dead Thalmor scattered all over my Skyrim

Of course, and this is going to be one hell of an omelet.

In your world perhaps. Not mine.

who is closer to the Nazi party? Stormclaoks or Thalmor?

well being a major history buff and a big fan of WWII in general i can compare both sides to them.

Stormcloaks seem like pre invasion of Poland Germany. they have been hit pretty hard by several attacks on thier culture and restrictions (as was germany after WWI) and low and behold a true nord figure rises to give Skyrim back to the people and restore nord pride and skyrims strength (as Hitler did, had he died before 1938 he would have been one of germany's greatest hero's) and if you drive the empire from skyrim he plans to go to war (as Hitler did)

so as you can see the comparison is pretty close, however the story cuts out before we can see if Skyrim invades Poland so hard to say.

were as the Thalmor are more like the Gestapo, thier just really evil about enforcing the laws that have been set. the boogymen that could come nocking at your door and arrrest you for no reason and be able to get away with it. the idea of thier race being superior (a Nazi idea as well, but many belive they are "better" in cultures around the world) and going to war over religion rather then race (more related to the crusades then the Nazi's)

so as you can see, whilst the Thalmor definantly have Nazi ellements to them, i think the Stormcloaks are closer. plus Hitler liked to put storm (Sturm) at the begining of all his weapons i think that might even be a nod to the fact.

I can only say this: I HATE HIGH ELVES!!!!!!!!!





Good question, Lawlieta. I would say Stormcloaks. They hate elves and are rascist and ignorent.

Since Dovahkiin is slightly mantling Talos, they'll make you conquer all of Nirn then kill you because hey, you have a fraction of Talos in you.