I loved the absurd Chinese Invisible Ninja Armor!! But I'll probably stick to prewar clothes myself, if I find something snazzy enough until I get some power armor training.

Not exactly true, the Lyons detachment had procured T-45d before going to Washington. They used it during the Scouring of the Pitt, hence why the Tribal PA and Ashur's PA from the Pitt are based on the T-45d and not T-51b.

So they had to have procured their T-45d before then. Likely, they were sent out with only the higher ranks having T-51, and most people having Combat armor (Brotherhood Armor). When they discovered the T-45d, in an undisclosed location, could be anywhere, they augmented their ranks with it, hence the T-45d in the Pitt. When they got to the Pentagon, they found a huge cache of the things in the basemant along with the robot, and decided it would be a good idea to give everyone power armor since they had so much now. Over time all their T-51bs were taken apart and cannibalized to repair the T-45d. (You can even do this in the game with your T-51b if you want.)

So really, we don't know where they found T-45d. It could be they found it in New Vegas even, we don't know. The fact that they haven't shown it off yet is sort of telling, though... I seem to remember one of the legion armors having a T-45d pauldron stuck to it- that pauldron had to come from somewhere.

I doubt the Brotherhood will use T-45d in New Vegas though, even if it's in the game, since they'll have many more superior T-51b models to work with.
What I want to know though, is why the Brotherhood didn't use the Enclave's demise to equip their troops with APA, or at least update their armors with APA design features. It would be nice to see the Knights cook up some Advanced T-51.

Perhaps they got the T-45d from Area 51 nearby? oo:

I do wonder where you will get power armor training from.

As some others have said, I'm pretty sure it'll be quite possible to port it over, but it cannot be released as a mod in that state.

If the modder created it from scratch however, then it'll be fine.

I'd just wait for a modder to recreate it from scratch and some sort of overhaul mod that makes the NPCs wear that armor along with the ones already in New Vegas.

I loathe the Mark I Power Armour with a passion. It just looks horribly cartoony and jokish.

To be fair, a big part of my problem with it was the refraction effect, I h a t e it. I had hoped someone would mod something along the lines of what there is for Oblivion to replace that shader (it just makes your character partially transparent), but as far as I know no one ever did except for one specific armor mod.

I even tinkered around in the GECK myself, but that's just a lost effort from the get go, unless it's simple tweaking, I'm useless with the GECK/CS.

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I didn't forget them exactly, I was just meaning more less the options inline with the Combat Armor class. I did like the Merc outfits, but I really couldn't get into any of the raider armors. Just not my cup of tea.

What's wrong with a refraction effect? It's logically a possible way for a stealth suit to work, bending the light around the subject. The other way would be to have a photosensitive surface the suit is made out of, which reproduces whatever is behind the surface- this is the tech that's available now, but it's very hard to make it work from multiple angles,- though it would provide the "transparency" effect you're talking about.

As to you second point, I understand. I always thought it looked silly to see the bright clean skin on the exposed parts of the Raider armor. It fits with the raiders because they're all covered in dirt. I found if you give yourself tan or black skin it looks a bit better because your skin matches the color pallete of the armor, making it less noticeable that you are forever squeaky clean.

I didn't mean from a practical standpoint, I meant aesthetically. That visual just bugs the hell out of me for some reason, I discovered mods for Oblivion specifically by trying to find some way to get rid of or change it.

Kind of a personal whine/gripe, but there you go.

It's possible that you don't need training in this game. Sorry I've never played 1 or 2 so I don't know if training is always there, but I though that training in Fallout 3 was just to keep you from using power armor for a while. If they make power armor really rare and hard to get to in early levels in this game they would not need to add the training part.

Dunno about Fallout 2, but training is not necessary in Fallout 1 to use power armor.