Okay, so, having finished the main quest of "Dragonborn" (still plenty to do side quest wise) the words from Freya are burned into my mind, warning us about the dark path we seem to be taking by serving Hermaeus Mora. This, to me, seems to be some sort of foreshadowing.

Given that the shivering isles in Oblivion final quest made our hero into the next Sheogorath, do you think that the Dovahkiin is going to wind up as an eternal servant to Hermaeus Mora in the end? However inadvertently?

Plus there's the whole "last" Dragonborn thing looming around. This is all pure speculation, naturally. It just seems like this is where it may be headed. Our character has to end somewhere, for sure.

Well, we don't know what will happen in the next two DLCs. However, I do agree that her words were rather ominous.

Well, while the dragonborn is free to choose their own path, events can arise that could potentially take them down a dark path. It's what the Dragonborn chooses to do that defines their own path. I think that Frea's warning was simply one of caution against getting too cozy with Hermaeus Mora. What I wish was available was some dialogue for the dragonborn to say to Hermaeus Mora and to Frea. It would be nice to verally state your intentions to either join or defy Hermaeus Mora, as well as let Frea know that you either are going to stay away from HM, or that you're going to join HM, and damn her feelings about it. Still, these are RP elements that each player can imagine on their own.

Probably not. Definitely not definitively.

I think it's whatever you want it to be...

Personally, it all seems a bit poetic.

I think we've heard this quote before:

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

not really when the dragonborn can end up being the champion for every single daedric prince as well as having the favor of Sithis and quite a few Aedra as well.

ehh not really
we're nowhere near as close to mora as miraak was
we may have inadvertently helped mora and gotten a few powers from him along the way through books, but we arent a virtual slave like miraak
miraak completely gave himself to mora to be an apprentice, we are kinda just going with the flow of the mq
cant really count moras last little 'oh youre mine even if you dont know it' speech either
EVERY daedra tells that to ANYONE who does something for them
in the end its what you choose to believe for rp purposes

Aha, brilliant quote. Now I think I may need to go watch that film.

Only if you let yourself. I personally still have my money on the dovahkiin rising to divinity from all the dragon souls we devoured. Or mantling Lorkhan or Talos due to all the Enantiomorophic (spelling) events we partake in, and since that ghost mistakes us as Hjalti. Whatever the case may be, don't say it's over until we get our last dlc.

Yes and No.


It's wrong for him, And i'm not very happy about that ending, How you just help Hermaeous Mora, Seems like he is the best Deadric God ever, hmm?



No. Because you're not in his realm yet.. Just don't do more..

Well, the way I RP my character, I hate that we had to do a favour for HM out to save Solstheim from Miraak. My character would *never* ordinarily help out a Daedea, he's still filled with guilt from that awful day he went into that "Haunted" house in Markarth, and was forced to kill a man by Molag Bal just to get out . . .

But I digress. I'm certainly interested in how the story will end. But not just yet. Give us a couple more sizeable DLC packs please, Mr. Bethesda. It's interesting how Beth are leading us further into questionable grey areas. I can't wait to see what they come up with next.

Right on, relatedly the Soul Cairn reveal had a huge impact on a couple of my chars with respect to soul gems.

yeah but its not my choice if my dragonborn is in that path. but the fault of a linear story that dont give us the choice in a open world game that is supposed to be about choice

Mora gave us some stuff. If we are to believe that if a Daedra gives us stuff then we become their soul-slaves, then we're............ well you get the picture.

what is really pathetic about all those extra ability or improvement you got from black book none of them is really usefull to me. exept for the dremora with noble clothes that carry youre stuff.lol that little guy is usefull.

Depends on the character.

My argonian master thief loves the knowledge because it makes her more powerful.
My Daedra-worshipper loves the knowledge because she can further serve her master. Yea, she's basically my Miraak-replacement character.
However, neither of them have any real plans to take over Solstheim or anything. My argonian basically owns Skyrim anyway, in her own way

My werewolf... doesn't bother with the books. She did what she needed to do. If I do the other few books in the future, it probably won't be IC.

Man... I really hate that quote. It's such a damn depressing outlook on life I can't believe people have taken to it so much. And to boot, if you actually think about it long enough you realize it contradicts the very point it's trying to get across. Its really ... really bad writing.

I agree with what you're saying about the abandoned house in Markarth. The first time my good character was excited to help a Vigilant of Stendarr and then the unspeakable happened ... that quest remains unfinished. Not to mention that MB's voice totally creeps me out. I made an 'evil' character to do the Daedric quests for the achievements but I didn't enjoy doing them. Molag Bal, Boethia, Mephala and good ol' HM were especially disturbing imo. It seems that most of the Daedric quest were a lot darker than they were in Oblivion -TES IV.

molag bal quest was my first ever daedra quest in skyrim n my first encounter with a daedra in tes. at the end i have this feeling. OOKK THAT WAS REALLY WEIRD N DISTURBING WTF HAPPENING. end up to beat a old man with a ugly mace.lol

My character didn't have problem with the quest for Molag Bal... He just killed the Priest just after releasing from custody.

Yeah, tried that without saving to see what would happen. You fail the quest but at least Molag Bal doesn't win out and it is kind of satisfying.

I think it's an interesting thing to ponder on. Although if being the last Dragonborn is true, then that would certainly make for a bitter experience in the next TES game. I've become kind of spoiled by the use of the Thu'um, and it's kind of odd to play without it now. I suppose You could learn it in other games the same way everyone else learns it, but I don't know... I'm getting off topic here.

That's because everything was focused on Mehrunes Dagon in TES4. The more darker parts were in that supposed "paradise" you visit during the main questline, only for it to peel back, revealing the torturing of innocents by dremora.

I really hope that future dlc makes us divine, or have the help from the divines. I don't like helping a deadra... at all.

I think this was actually from one of the TES games or another game. I can't remember.

But ye'h. I'm not much of a hero or villain in Skyrim. More in between. I help the needed, kill the "evil", etc but I still love to assassinate fools, hunt as a werewolf, etc...

But I shall NOT serve Herma-Mora. I did what I needed to do to kill Miraak and gain some new powers. I have no need to do anything more for, or with, Herma-Mora.