The dragonborn is not supposed to be a superstar

Post » Wed May 30, 2012 5:24 am

Right after FusRoDah'ing in front of a guard (which iirc would take normal people many many years to master) said guard says "Maybe I'm the dragonborn and I just don't know it"
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I wish I got the comments Tale gets.
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 4:40 pm

Actually I have been recognized by every guard I come across most of the time. plus I had parthrunax give me a speech, Agrinir give me a speech, and a dragon swear his loyalty to me. that seems like enough recognition to me.


Good call, I forgot Odahviir (sp!)
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 4:34 am

That's your opinion.
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 7:51 am

Right after FusRoDah'ing in front of a guard (which iirc would take normal people many many years to master) said guard says "Maybe I'm the dragonborn and I just don't know it"
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I wish I got the comments Tale gets.
I have played 170 hours. And I've only heard the "Are you really the Dragonborn..." comment once. This was yesterday and it freaked me out, or else I would doubt that I really heard it.
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 3:46 pm

I have played 170 hours. And I've only heard the "Are you really the Dragonborn..." comment once. This was yesterday and it freaked me out, or else I would doubt that I really heard it.

Only once? Huh, I hear it fairly often. That's random dialogue for you...
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 4:25 pm

Walking around in Dragonscale armor does get a comment as well, which is nice...but considering you're wearing equipment made out of a nigh-invincible terror beast that has been extinct for thousands of years, you would think that would provide a little more of evidence of your status as well.
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 5:37 pm

You know what's wrong with Skyrim these days? Everyone is obsessed with Fame !
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 11:31 am

Walking around in Dragonscale armor does get a comment as well, which is nice...but considering you're wearing equipment made out of a nigh-invincible terror beast that has been extinct for thousands of years, you would think that would provide a little more of evidence of your status as well.

Not necessarily. I remember Delphine saying when you first meet her that you are the only one that can permanently kill a dragon by absorbing its soul. So other people could kill a dragon and use its scales and bones it just would not have lost its soul to them. so they could just think you are just some powerful adventurer but not know that you are the dragonborn.
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 10:50 am

1. the cost and time expense on a game that personally recognized you as the arch mage of winterhold with all the special priviledges that should come with it, to include being held accountable to the crimes many of the lesser intelligent Nords believe you're accountable to... adding to this your achievements as a member of the Imperial Army and your time spent in the Thieves guild as well as having slain Alduin by traveling into Sovengard and being assisted by a good number of the most amazing dragonslayers in history? I wouldn't be able to play the very glitchy and very linear game, I'm afraid. It would cost too much to develop and would be really difficult to navigate and keep straight. I prefer Skyrim for being somewhat more flexible with me, even if it means I have to bear my superstardom as a secret identity. Figure this... who wants the head of the dark brotherhood, the murderer of the Emperor to also be the savior of the tree in Whiterun, the head of the mages college and the most recognized werewolf in history because he's also the dragonborn? if everyone knew everything you'd have a lot of s'plainin to do.

2. not all of anything or anyone knows a darned thing about our characters. they're not supposed to. refer to number 1. the bards only know a few songs, the guards have a set number of things to say and most of it is rumormill and speculation.

peace... or pieces. it's always the choice when you boot up the game.

There would be no extra cost. That's ridiculous. The game already recognizes when you join a faction. Recognizing that you're the leader of the faction would be no different. It's a simple script that would start running when you became leader and the older one stops running. It's nothing.
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 12:58 pm

I have played 170 hours. And I've only heard the "Are you really the Dragonborn..." comment once. This was yesterday and it freaked me out, or else I would doubt that I really heard it.

Really? I hear it quite often. Once you do the first quest in the MQ guards everywhere start saying it which pretty much blows up the OP's belief that nobody knows who you are.
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 5:08 pm

I didn't want a parade. I wanted to world to actually feel changed, there's seriously not a thing that has changed after I defeated Alduin. Nothing.
And I didn't even get anything useful. Fun, a shout to summon some guy who'll keep getting in my way. Thanks, but no thanks.
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 1:00 pm

I didn't want a parade. I wanted to world to actually feel changed, there's seriously not a thing that has changed after I defeated Alduin. Nothing.
And I didn't even get anything useful. Fun, a shout to summon some guy who'll keep getting in my way. Thanks, but no thanks.

Ah yes, that reminds me...absorbing Alduin's soul to get some kind of new power would have been nice. Or even being able to loot something awesome off of him. But nay.
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 10:21 am

I'm of the opinion that not too many people know who you are. A few thoughts:

1. The Dragonborn isn't the only one who can perform shouts.

2. The legend of the Dragonborn seems to be the biggest myth in Skyrim. I don't think the bards were singing for you. I think it's just a popular tale bards sing. It's probably getting more play now that dragons have returned.

3. They imply that there are potention Dragonborn besides the one destined to kill Alduin.

4. It doesn't appear that any characters outside the MQ ever saw Alduin, much less know you traveled to Valhala to take him down.

I will say that I was annoyed by the lack of recognition for my accomplishments in the civil war. Couldn't they have hooked us up with a personal fort?
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 3:31 am

There would be no extra cost. That's ridiculous. The game already recognizes when you join a faction. Recognizing that you're the leader of the faction would be no different. It's a simple script that would start running when you became leader and the older one stops running. It's nothing.


You clearly know nothing about coding.
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 9:36 am

You clearly know nothing about coding.

Yes, and I'm sure you are an expert programmer. Give me a break. New Vegas has the record for the most recorded lines of dialog in any video game and they change drastically based on what you've done. But go ahead, keep making excuses for Skyrim.
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 10:55 am

Yes, and I'm sure you are an expert programmer. Give me a break. New Vegas has the record for the most recorded lines of dialog in any video game and they change drastically based on what you've done. But go ahead, keep making excuses for Skyrim.


It just so happens I've been a C# programmer for 10 years smarta$$. So don't spread your nonsense on matters you don't understand.
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 6:17 pm

It just so happens I''ve been a C# programmer for 10 years smarta$$ so don't spread nonsense on matters you don't understand.

Sure you are. That's why you can't even give an answer to the fact that NV could do it and Skyrim can't even though NV has far more dialog to keep track of. I'll answer it for you. They were lazy about it. If guards can recognize your stats, your faction, your weapons and your armor, that your dragonborn they can recognize one more thing.
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 5:48 am

Sure you are. That's why you can't even give an answer to the fact that NV could do it and Skyrim can't even though NV has far more dialog to keep track of. I'll answer it for you. They were lazy about it. If guards can recognize your stats, your faction, your weapons and your armor, that your dragonborn they can recognize one more thing.


Its because NV is way more linear than Skyrim. You have less freedom in NV and so the AI has less things to keep track of. Not really rocket science, even for you.
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 9:45 am

I personally couldn't give two [censored] about fame. I don't want to have a parade, I don't want people to start bowing to me in the street and I don't want every single women throwing themselves at my feet just because they know I am Dragonborn. I actually appreciate the peace I get, you can ponder on your great deeds without interruption.
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 5:13 am

Its because NV is way more linear than Skyrim. You have less freedom in NV and so the AI has less things to keep track of. Not really rocket science, even for you.

Actually NV has much, much more to keep track of. Your reputation is individually tracked by every town and every faction separately which is far more than anything in Skyrim. Skyrim doesn't even accurately track the results of the 4 factions, the MQ and the Civil War. It doesn't even bother to touch on sidequests so that's not interfering with anything. Yet the guards do track when you join a faction, your armor, weapons, etc. Your argument is that adding a line of dialog for those 6 things is more than the game can handle? Don't think so.
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 11:35 am

Actually NV has much, much more to keep track of. Your reputation is individually tracked by every town and every faction separately which is far more than anything in Skyrim. Skyrim doesn't even accurately track the results of the 4 factions, the MQ and the Civil War. It doesn't even bother to touch on sidequests so that's not interfering with anything. Yet the guards do track when you join a faction, your armor, weapons, etc. Your argument is that adding a line of dialog for those 6 things is more than the game can handle? Don't think so.


I get this a lot at my work. People who never wrote a single line of code in their lives come by and say "Hey I need you to include this in our software. I bet it's pretty easy to do". Guess what? It's not. There's one thing in software development called Impact anolysis, this means that everytime you change a single line of code you must anolyse what impact it might have in the whole software because every change you make might have a cascade effect.

In the end of the day this is just a computer program, a series of "ifs" and "thens" scripted to give you the illusion of a real world. Even the term Artificial Intelligence is misused here, did you know that? A real AI should be able to learn and evolve by itself, something that requires huge amount of processing and no game has and probably won't have for another decade or more.

Expecting that every NPC will react to every stone you stepped on the way there is unrealistic and if that's what you want from a video game I suggest you freeze yourself and hybernate for another 50 years.
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 8:48 am

I get this a lot at my work. People who never wrote a single line of code in their lives come by and say "Hey I need you to include this in our software. I bet it's pretty easy to do". Guess what? It's not. There's one thing in software development called Impact anolysis, this means that everytime you change a single line of code you must anolyse what impact it might have in the whole software because every change you make might have a cascade effect.

In the end of the day this is just a computer program, a series of "ifs" and "thens" scripted to give you the illusion of a real world. Even the term Artificial Intelligence is misused here, did you know that? A real AI should be able to learn and evolve by itself, something that requires huge amount of processing and no game has and probably won't have for another decade or more.

Expecting that every NPC will react to every stone you stepped on the way there is unrealistic and if that's what you want from a video game I suggest you freeze yourself and hybernate for another 50 years.

Again though, you are dodging the question. With everything else the guards do acknowledge you honestly believe that acknowledging the outcome of the 6 main quests is impossible?
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 6:36 am

The guards do acknowledge the outcomes of the 6 main quests. They just happen to, for some reason, also acknowledge the start of those quests at the same time.
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 7:41 am

Again though, you are dodging the question. With everything else the guards do acknowledge you honestly believe that acknowledging the outcome of the 6 main quests is impossible?

In all my 107 hours of gaming so far the NPCs have reacted accordingly to what I have done. Of course sometimes a misplaced comment will happen (it's just a game remember?) but I can easily suspend my disbelief to find an explanation for what happened. I.E: In the Blood on Ice quests the tavern owner keeps telling me about her waitress' behavior even after she was murdered. I just assumed it must have been tough for her to cope with the tragedy so she refuses to accept this new reality. Then I move on and keep playing, I don't come to the forums to nitpick on something that has little impact on my gameplay.

As I said before this is a computer program designed to create an illusion of a real world. When you watch an illusionist's show, if you ever did, you know that everything he's performing is fake, not real. They have their amazing acts that makes it looks like they really have superpowers but they also perform more trivial acts that if you pay real attention to you can easily say how it's done. But you don't, you just suspend your disbelief to have a good time (unless you want to pi$$ everyone around you).

That's how Skyrim works. You know it's fake, you know it's not a real world, and if you don't have the will to play along then you spend too much time getting annoyed by the little things and too little time having fun.
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 1:05 pm

Considering that there are many books on the subject of dragons, alduin and dragonborn, in addition to your feats regarding dragons, theres no reason that word of mouth concerning adragonborn stopping the end of the world shouldnt be everywhere in skyrim.

THe people that DO know that you are the dragonborn would spread the word- you only saved existence is all.
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