Sounds like you need to make your faction ... With blackjack and hokers!

if you listened to the peope of the wastes the ncr are slavers too. They just call it labor camps.

Yeah, each has an issue, kings have good morals, but no power, ncr has a bit of both, legion has more power than morals, and house, well he just seems like he wants personal gain.

I'd not considered the kings, while it was ok working for them I just saw them as a bit of a joke, I only hung around long enough to get Rex.

The King has good moral standing. Not all the Kings are cut from the same cloth. Pencer, for instance and he's second in command.

True, but I get the feeling it wont end wellfor them if I go ncr there are already fights. Also its hard to go ncr, they kinda hate me after I killed all of them at helios when I wanted my laser...

Hmmm wonder what mr house would be like as ruler...

Can you side with the legion as a female character? I know they have some male-dominant attitudes, just curious.

Probabally, they wont change the plot much just because of gender.

Actually, by the time I left the King's employ, he and the NCR were going to work out distributing food across Freeside.

Why dance for any of them? Make them dance.

Vote for who? The congress chooses the president, and one newly elected congressman isn't going to change anything. Leave the country to go where? Utah? The Capitol? The Pitt? Most people in the NCR were weaponless townies, aking them leave town because they don't like their government is a death sentence to them.

It's really more like Rome than Nazi Germany. I know people like to 1) romanticize Rome and 2) use the Nazis to make comparisons with anything bad, but the Legion's goals, methods, and expansions are much more like Julius Caesar than Adolf Hitler.

Caesar is a lot like the Master except he's much more of an [censored].

Democracy The NCR is the worst form of government; except all the others that have been tried.

I hate everyone! I'll side with these Legion guys for a bit but then they're all gonna have there day. The only ones i can trust is me and my dog Rexy.

A little too spoiler heavy for me to read all the replies, but to the original op...Yeah..if you're thinking a group of slavers that have a predilection for crucifying people, driving the last remaining survivor insane by way of a macabre lottery, and splitting up all the tribes that submit to them in order to maintain total control is better than a bunch of hardasses showing up saying "Sorry about your house, but there's a battle a-comin," you may have to re-evaluate some of your ideas of freedom. The NCR is your standard, bloated government, and they do have an overbearing method, but if you're playing this game, like many of us, as an extension of your own belief system, the answer, to me, seems obvious. Do what I'm going to do. None of those groups will run anything the way I want, and Mr. House is the big man on the block because of his securitron strike force, so the obvious solution is to kill house, take over Lucky 38, and use any alliances you've made along the way to set up things the way you want them set up.

This being fallout, I'm sure my plans won't quite work out the way I want them too, but since I'm still wandering the wastes with no idea of the future, it's the endgame I've got planned for New Vegas. After all, I've got (I assume) air support from the Boomer's Bomber, and most everyone at least likes me. I kiss a few more butts, get idolized by a few people, they should fall in line. If not...there's always the securitrons. And hey, I've killed half of the wasteland on my own so far. And who knows...maybe Caesar and the NCR will take each other out.

I am not far into the campaign, but I'd like to ally with the BoS, set up an independent Enclave (like the DC BoS) and rule Vegas on my own. Is this possible?

The BoS are innew vegas, dont know if you can do that, but they are there, just dont piss them off, unlike fallout 3 BoS these guys are no joke.

Typical NCR response. They're going to reevaluate my opinions and judge them for me, aren't they?

Well, I might have to pass the CL. Maybe this Mr. House could be a better leader....

I have to say, my current playthrough is siding with mr house, and I like where its going...

At least Caesar is a bit more eloquent. It's not all "Join! DIE! Join! DIE!" with him (well it is but at least he says it nicely!).

Even if that's true, what exactly did he say that wasn't true?

Well, since the NCR are just drafting their soldiers, it does sort of kill a lot of their sympathy, especially since Kimball is only continuing the war because he can't simply give up on a war HE started. What would the voters back home think?

You know, I thought I would hate Caesar when he made me wipe out the BoS, but by my second playthrough, I'd discovered the BoS were actually even more unsympathetic than Caesar...

I get the impression the NCR is there for Hoover Dam/Helios One, more then continuing the fight against the Legion. NCR needs the power Hoover can provide if they're going to keep expanding.

i kill all legion!!
because they enslave, crucify people and demean women
i would never-ever- side with them!!!
i always play the hero because i will be true to myself
i want to do good in this life and that translates to my games

to thine ownself, be true

fyi i am female and more than likely
in the oldest group on this board
i would say one of the oldest but i think summer is actually older-lol