If on the imperial side of the civil war. After defeating Ulfric talk to General Tulius. He mention something about focusing on the Aldmeri Dominion and said to keep it between him and you. Does that mean the empire will engage a war on the thalmor? Yes or no? Why or why not? If so how will the empire can get out of bed with the Thalmor? let's debate.

It's fairly obvious they will. The Thalmor are hellbent on concurring Tamriel as they believe that only after that proves their worth, they can ascend to godlike status (or something of that sort).

The empire hates the Aldmeri Dominion so they will go to war with them after the civil war ends (or when the empire gains strength and/or new leadership).

If you complete the civil war with the Stormcloaks, before his execution he suggests that such a revolution is what the Thalmor have been waiting for. So that both endings to the civil war are possible, the Thalmor will most likely take Skyrim from either victor and make the conclusion to the civil war obsolete. The prediction of many is that the next ES game will focus on a war with the Thalmor, who have gained power over the course of the last couple games.

Personally I hope they do, Infact It would be interesting in the next game that there is a war between them and you get to help either side like in the Skyrim civil war.

Interesting. Stormcloak just played in the thalmor political games.

The Thalmor don't know that there are going to be destroyed in a bloody storm of steel and fire!
For the Empire, For the Legion, For the Dark lord......I mean Emperor!

Hopefully whoever replaces Titus Mede II is a stronger leader.

Yeah yeah.

Ulfric's first priority after a Stormcloak victory is regrouping to take the fight to the Dominion.

As for the empire, it's been thirty years and they're more cozy with the Thalmor than ever. Some people may be ready to fight, and it will depend on who takes over for Mede, but I wouldn't bet they're going to start the war machine any time soon. How can they when they've got Thalmor watching their every move?

Well if Ulfric takes the fight to them they won't stand a chance. It will be a worse defeat then the empire had in the great war. And mayne Titus is planning something with a few trusted people and the thalmor don;t know about it?

Nope I'm pretty sure Ulfric will completely wipe the floor with the thalmor because I have complete knowledge of future events and the exact forces of the Thalmor and Stormcloaks and everyone that will be involved in the second war.

He says that Skyrim will lead Tamriel against the Thalmor. It's not just the Nords he's envisioning fighting them. An independent Skyrim will be able to ally with the other provinces like Hammerfell that the empire has squandered.

While Titus is making his secret plans, he's letting Thalmor agents watch his every move. There may be elements in the legion who want to fight, but the empire shows no signs of finding its gonads any time soon, and even if they did it would be entirely under the eyes of their enemy. So good luck with that.

The Empire's been feeding everyone lies about this. Skyrim doesn't need the Empire to survive. They're the main infantry the Empire depended on in the last war. The Imperials need Skyrim because it contains their strongest warriors but Skyrim doesn't need the Imperials. Hammerfell proved they can take on the Thalmor without help, and after Hammerfell weakened the Thalmors further I doubt Skyrim needs help to fend them off.

Medes is afraid of the Thalmors. Tullius goes round implying they'll be having a war soon but nothing is ever done. If you let the Imperials win they'll all keep pretending they're only biding their time to recover for another war. 50000000000000000 years later they're still saying the same thing. Ulfric on the other hand is actually taking immediate action. That's the kind of man who should lead.

I'm pretty sure no matter who you pick there will be another war in Skyrim.

Every single thing we have seen (as well as the fact that this is a video game based on action and adventure) hints that there is going to be another war between the Empire and the Dominion. The reason some players claim that the Empire is the puppet of the Thalmor (or even more incorrect, their ally) is because it means that the Stormcloak rebellion is a really bad idea. Other then having to let Justicars in to hunt Talos worshipers because of the WGC there really is no love between the Empire and the Dominion. In fact it seems almost all of the Empire supporters seem to hate the Thalmor as much as the Stormcloaks do.

The Empire is not a puppet of the Thalmor, but still has to deal with the WGC. If they win the civil war they can continue to build up their military strength and get ready for a new war. This conflict will most likely start off from a souring of relations between the two powers when the Empire begins to restrict the movements of (if not outright assassinating) Thalmor agents withing the Empire. The Thalmor will claim that the WGC is being violated and declare war.

A big X factor is the emperor. Mede gets offed during the DB quests, but the man who hires you claims that its for the good of the Empire. Whether he was just spouting retoric, or there is an even better candidate for emperor waiting in the shadows we will just have to wait and see.

I imagine they won't base the next series off the DB or civil war stories as they could go either way, or entirely skipped. But the slaughter of the Thalmor.. I'm all up for it...

And I don't think it matters to the Thalmor who wins the civil war, they just want the fighting to weaken both sides.

The Aldmeri Dominion has the Empire bent over backwards with their hands hogtied to their ankles politically speaking... they're controlling most everyone through sort of questionable means... and I'd be shocked and even a little dismayed if the only folks in the world of Tamriel to find them overstepping their place were the folks in Hammerfel and Ulfric Stormcloak.

it's flavor text that the General suggests that he's no more in love with the Thalmor than the Stormcloaks are.

My question once I'd completed both chains more than once is this... who is willing to put their lives where their mouths are and draw a line in the sand telling the Aldmeri Dominion and anyone who supports them to step off?

I'm not sure which is worse... complaining and still doing as they order you to do or standing up and offering them your head because you refuse to do as you're told like a good dog.

If the Thalmor operate in every part of the Empire like they operate in Skyrim, they already have a worst case scenario for thier cause because every Dragonborn (human one) has been a Shezzarine in lore. Every post I have read does not think about the last Imperial Province beside Skyrim - High Rock. Breton leaders should already have a firm grasp of what will actually happen if the Thalmor are allowed to succeed in thier goal.
The Colovians will look at Hammerfell and force the Empire to act if the Empire wins the war in Skyrim, or side with the Human Army coming from the North, the Redgaurds would probably support any side that is actually willing to act directly against the Thalmor.
If the Hist consider the Thalmor as a threat to the continued existence of Nirn, the Argonians may send a sizable force to support a war effort against the Thalmor.
The continuation of the Civil War is an asset to the Thalmor because it allows Snow Throat to weaken the longer it lasts, Direnni Tower is currently the only pillar left in Mundus that is not weakened or destroyed or lost in time (Numidium).
Binding a Dragon (literally a child of Akatosh) or Dragonborn to White Gold Tower would probably cause a civil war in Summerset Isles, because the act would really set the Thalmor back, and set up a nice scenario for ES6.
The act of binding a Dragonborn could also tie in with the KOTN lore on Pelinal. (open chest wound, being mistaken for Shor)

The hammerfell fighting a severely crippled thalmor army to a stand is actualy bad news as it means the dominion soldiers must actually be good fighters. Who ever attacks the dominion would have to build up a very sizable force not to mention an armada of ships to wipe out the thalmor navy and transport the troops and keep a supply line open. The kahjiit could be a problem if the truth about the disappearance of the moons isnt discovered quick to convince the kahjiit not to attack them while invading alinor. The bosmer would probably leave the dominion as soon as they saw it didnt have any power left to control them.

This is exactly their plan, if you read the document you swipe from their embassy. The Empire is a shell of bureaucrats hanging on to power. It suits them and the Thalmor. They naively believe that they can have "peace in our time" with the Aldmeri. Skyrim is a resource-rich province, and the Aldmeri know it and covet it. The trouble is that it's infested with barbarians. Go ahead and talk to any of them, you'll see what they think of the people and customs of Skyrim. They are a colonial power, exploiting the population, those noble savages of Skyrim. That they have the Empire to do the dirty work for them is a perk.

After Stormcloaks have won Ulfric says that we have to now prepare ourselves to face the real enemy: Thalmor.

yeah i thought it was supposed to be pretty obvious either side would be focusing on the thalmor as the next enemy, either victor you choose. even though the empire is giving the thalmor certain privileges, it isn't because they're friends.

i thought this thread was going to be about the thalmor's involvement in the civil war when i clicked on it. ;p
it seemed to also be clued in there that the thalmor were largely behind the civil war starting, as part of a "divide and conquer" strategy, if they weren't directly responsible for it.

Yeah both sides are clearly planning to attack the thalmor. (and the only reason the empire is letting them do this crap in their lands is because they pretty much have no other choice at the moment) I do hope on the next game it involves a plot about a war between the empire and the thalmor.

I'm up for a DLC Aldermani campaign.