Theory on the Dwemer

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:08 am

Obviously they built a huge enchanted spacecraft and with the help of their patron god abandoned their home on Nirn to colonize Secunda. I'm selling this idea to Bethesda. I will make millions.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:38 pm

A spacecraft would have a launchpad. Where is such a thing at Red Mountain?
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:45 am

ha ha...

the lore is already there....if you're smart enough to understand it:
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/final-report-trebonius


It exaplains what happened to them. They anti-created themselves in an attempt to asend to godhood.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:29 pm

Idk if there new to TES. But I think they barricaded down there and just died out. And left spiders, and wheelchair things that punch you.

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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:55 pm

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dwemer

Nope.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:26 am

haha the dwemer ruins do provoke more theorizing than the ayleid ruins of Oblivion. I was thinking a "return of the dwemer" would make a good plot line for a future TES.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:03 am

A spacecraft would have a launchpad. Where is such a thing at Red Mountain?

why would it need a launchpad? it may not have a combustion fuel rocket......the OP at least is being creative :)
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:05 pm

Right. They flew their spacecraft out of a mountain.

In the middle of a war.

With no one noticing.

Leaving ash piles inside suits of armor.

Clever one, you.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:28 am

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dwemer

Nope.

"Secondly, the last living Dwarf, http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Yagrum_Bagarn, said that when the Dwemer disappeared he was in the "Outer Realms", and thus did not disappear with them. The Outer Realms referred to that which was outside of Nirn", from you source, so what is to say other dwemer were not in the outer realms at the same time, was it an exclusive holiday location for yagrum? a whole little village of the buggera could have been on holidaying at the time and maybe never wanted to come back, as it would upset the lore hacks.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:31 am

"Secondly, the last living Dwarf, http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Yagrum_Bagarn, said that when the Dwemer disappeared he was in the "Outer Realms", and thus did not disappear with them. The Outer Realms referred to that which was outside of Nirn", from you source, so what is to say other dwemer were not in the outer realms at the same time, was it an exclusive holiday location for yagrum? a whole little village of the buggera could have been on holidaying at the time and maybe never wanted to come back, as it would upset the lore hacks.

And if there is a village of Dwemer hanging out in oblivion, guess what? They're most likely dead by now.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:20 pm

Right. They flew their spacecraft out of a mountain.

In the middle of a war.

With no one noticing.

Leaving ash piles inside suits of armor.

Clever one, you.

maybe they had invisibility technology, much like an enhanced version of the invisibility potion....clever one you are!!!

maybe they opened up a rift using say and elder scroll and travelled through that, travelling to a new plane without moving in the current one....clever one you are!!!
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:35 am

And if there is a village of Dwemer hanging out in oblivion, guess what? They're most likely dead by now.

what if they also had corprus or some other means, and who said it was simply oblivion!
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:29 am

maybe they had invisibility technology, much like an enhanced version of the invisibility potion....clever one you are!!!

maybe they opened up a rift using say and elder scroll and travelled through that, travelling to a new plane without moving in the current one....clever one you are!!!

Right! Elder scrolls can be used by everyone and they're just lying around everywhere!

The Dwemer turned into Numidiums golden skin. I am clever, yes.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:27 am

Right! Elder scrolls can be used by everyone and they're just lying around everywhere!

The Dwemer turned into Numidiums golden skin. I am clever, yes.

clearly not lore hack....

have you played much of skyrim yet!!!! (I think you'll find something that challenges your first point just in his game -Right! Elder scrolls can be used by everyone and they're just lying around everywhere!)

Golden skin were the ones that received the calling supposedly, if you clearly knew much about the game you'd know even in the lore it is not certain that all dwemer disappeared at once or even for the same purpose. clever you are not....the original posters point is as valid as your own, yet you are to closed minded to realise it, and that it is also tongue in cheek.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:56 am

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dwemer

Nope.

A question, do you know how that wiki works?
I do not and I have found a mistake. Tried to correct it but couldnt figure out how.

Anyway, under the lemma 'Dwemer history' the site says that some insight can be found in the book 'Azura and the box'.
This is not true.
'Azura and the box' is written by Marobar Sul.
He adapted folk tales commonly known in his surroundings and adapted them to give them a 'Dwemer feel'.
Those books have as much to do with Dwemer as Victorian books about foreign lands have to do with these foreign lands.
(Jungle book, Gullivers travels etc.)

"
Publisher's Note
I was reluctant to publish the works of Marobar Sul, but when the University of Gwylim Press asked me to edit this edition, I decided to use this as an opportunity to set the record straight once and for all.
Scholars do not agree on the exact date of Marobar Sul's work, but it is generally agreed that they were written by the playwright "Gor Felim," famous for popular comedies and romances during the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Interregnum between the fall of the First http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Cyrodiil Empire and the rise of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Tiber_Septim. The current theory holds that Felim heard a few genuine http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dwemer tales and adapted them to the stage in order to make money, along with rewritten versions of many of his own plays.
Gor Felim created the persona of "Marobar Sul" who could translate the Dwemer language in order to add some sort of validity to the work and make it even more valuable to the gullible. Note that while "Marobar Sul" and http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Ancient_Tales_of_the_Dwemer became the subject of heated controversy, there are no reliable records of anyone actually meeting "Marobar Sul," nor was there anyone of that name employed by the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mages_Guild, the School of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Julianos, or any other intellectual institution.
In any case, the Dwemer in most of the tales of "Marobar Sul" bear little resemblance to the fearsome, unfathomable race that frightened even the Dunmer, Nords, and http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Redguard into submission and built ruins that even now have yet to be understood."

Edit: On the 'calling':
The calling is radio technology.
In Morrowind you can find a lot of 'Dwemer coherers' in Dwemer ruins.
Coherers are a type of technology solely used in radio.

Kagrenac did not use the calling, it wasnt needed.
The fulfillment of his endeavor caused the souls of the Dwemer to be absorbed into Numidium.
Instantaneously, throughout Tamriel, even those in Skyrim and Hammerfell which (presumably) were not actively supporting (or even knew about) Kagrenac's plans.
Kagrenac struck the Heart (in panic and before he was ready), and all the Dwemer vanished, implying that the endeavor itself caused it, and it did not have to be coordinated via radio.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:37 am

clearly not lore hack....

have you played much of skyrim yet!!!! (I think you'll find something that challenges your first point just in his game -Right! Elder scrolls can be used by everyone and they're just lying around everywhere!)

Golden skin were the ones that received the calling supposedly, if you clearly knew much about the game you'd know even in the lore it is not certain that all dwemer disappeared at once or even for the same purpose. clever you are not....the original posters point is as valid as your own, yet you are to closed minded to realise it, and that it is also tongue in cheek.

Yes, there was one
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Elder Scroll inside of Black Reach.
which is no where near Red Mountain, and that's the only one you can find in the entirety of Skyrim.
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And it let you look back in time, and it also let those three throw Alduin through time. One single dragon. Not an ENTIRE RACE.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:49 am

A guy was right.Why make an Dlc about the Dwemer if we already know too much about them?ONly if we want to see them at another planet fighitng the Xenomorphs and the Predators.....anyway the best choice of Dlc is "the return of the Falmer".
For your information.The dwemer died after try to get goodhood status(aka Daedra/Aedra) by using the Hearth of Lorkhan,they ll turned into dust.Their mahcines are still working because their full is souls gems.So they can bassicaly stay there forever.Also a dwemer machine is too hard to kill.This is why the machines are still out there after 800 years.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:58 am

Yes, there was one
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Elder Scroll inside of Black Reach.
which is no where near Red Mountain, and that's the only one you can find in the entirety of Skyrim.
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And it let you look back in time, and it also let those three throw Alduin through time. One single dragon. Not an ENTIRE RACE.

one dragon (a very special one) vs one race what is the difference!! is there a quota or something!!
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:00 am

Ah the joy of Wiki, where everyone can change everything.

I reccomend reading the Stargate Atlantis wiki, and in general the part where they state atlantis left millions of years ago, than watch the actual show and notice a few zeros missing. I tried to change that as well and was succesfull in it, not a day later someone had made it millions again.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:54 am

one dragon (a very special one) vs one race what is the difference!! is there a quota or something!!

One dragon is one being. Not thousands and thousands of beings spread out in random places, most no where even near the supposed Elder Scroll.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:10 am

One dragon is one being. Not thousands and thousands of beings spread out in random places, most no where even near the supposed Elder Scroll.
Alduin is not a Dragon.He is a Being that choosed the form of a Dragon to destroy the world.Like akatosh and other Daedra chooses disguisting/fearsome forms to terrify the mortals with their actions.Now dragons are a race just like any other,just bigger.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:21 am

One dragon is one being. Not thousands and thousands of beings spread out in random places, most no where even near the supposed Elder Scroll.

what difference would it make being one dragon vs one species to an elder scroll, you do suffer from blinkered thinking, what if it was one spaceship with a species contained are you saying an elder scroll could not support that!!

you seem to be missing the calling in your spread out view, maybe they enhanced this momentarily (does that blow your mind!!)
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:53 am

Alduin is not a Dragon.He is a Being that choosed the form of a Dragon to destroy the world.Like akatosh and other Daedra chooses disguisting/fearsome forms to terrify the mortals with their actions.Now dragons are a race just like any other,just bigger.

Okay? Still. It was one DRAGON SHAPED BEING. That was very, very close to the Elder Scroll. Just because it worked on one DRAGON SHAPED BEING. Doesn't mean it will work on every single Dwemer on Nirn. A lot of them no where near said Elder Scroll.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:12 am

what difference would it make being one dragon vs one species to an elder scroll, you do suffer from blinkered thinking, what if it was one spaceship with a species contained are you saying an elder scroll could not support that!!

you seem to be missing the calling in your spread out view, maybe they enhanced this momentarily (does that blow your mind!!)

'The calling' is radio technology, as I explained above, and has nothing to do with the dissapearance of the Dwemer.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:38 pm

Obviously the last dwemer had a child with a cave bat, and thus became the falmer today... Blind, bloodthirsty cave dwelling creatures in elven figure.. mhm
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