I want to clear something up.

I don't think ignoring the stuff is that effective.
I don't think burning the heretics is going to help.

I also don't think that purposefully exposing yourself to porm is the best way to go about enlightening people about the dangers of six.
Honestly, what place does it have?





[edit] and I meant "we" and "problems" in terms of...well...not really sure but I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth.

Whew! For a minute there, I thought you were attempting to speak for me. :hehe:

If you had issues, dear, you should report it to the bsgf moderators.

While nudity does not equal sixuality, the objectification and content in porm is not viewing material appropriate for a child.
Childfen are naturally curious, and should not be humiliated and demoralized for having an interest in the reproductive process.
They should be taught the appropriate time and place to discuss that curiosity. If a child finds a way to view porm, it reflects on the parent. Tighten up those security features, and don't leave stuff laying around.
However, teenagers, find ways to observe mating behavior. And will find a medium, be it the underwear ads or one of dad's magazines. A teenager is far more mature and responsible, generally, than a toddler or grade schooler. While technically minors, a teen viewing pron out of curiosty is far different from a toddler.
Would I be mad if my kids were viewing porm? No. I would be curious as to why they want to.
Fact is, males are visually stimulated, and teenage boys have megahormone flux going on.
I think understanding and teaching self discipline is key here.



Thisisn'tmyname: Last time I looked, condems were OTC and oral contraceptives were available at many clinics, family planning centers, and to a minor with a doctor's prescription.

sixual repression is the reason we have shows like "16 and Pregnant." You can also blame horny teens as well but repression also plays a big part in it.
And I'll probably get a warning or ban for this but I don't care. Wanna know why some truly sick and disgusting fetishes come from japan? Years upon years of sixual repression. Yes god awful tentacle crap was shown waaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in old times via paintings and what not but repression has just made it all so much worse.

@ Shnell: No, purposefully showing yourself porm is not a good form of showing the dangers of six. porm is in place for people who just need a bit of tension relief when nothing else (See-Conventional six with another human being) isn't readily available.
I'm not continuing with anything from this post as I think I've gone a bit over the line.

the question then becomes "what is normal?" for the purposes of this forum it is rhetorical, but it is worth thinking about imo. thing that were once unmentionably taboo are now commonplace. what if your child has a weird fetish? would you condemn him or let him watch what gets him off?

I thought it was always a fact that the Japanese are so weird is cause they're sixually repressed.

Only on BGSF can a thread about bedtime and summer school become a discussion on the morality of pormography.

Isn't conversation drift just great?

:cryvaultboy: Just because you don't like my porm doesn't mean ya'll have to get mean. :cryvaultboy:

These forums are getting interesting again.

Yeah, until the mods show up.

I never did quite understand the appeal of pormography, I just figured it out through asking my parents, reading, and watching nature documentaries.

I said that in my post. "Years upon years of sixual repression". There is a law about it now but it's not doing much good. Not sure if I can discuss it though.

@Nerevar: I guess "normal" isn't something that isn't conventional. Something along the lines of not overly graphic but not so bare bones that the participants are sort just sitting there saying "I love you" over and over until the scene is finished. If the child has a weird fetish, and chances are with the internet they are bound to develop one, then try to understand it. Don't condemn them as that just makes them feel like you hate them. But I don't think actively encouraging them to view it is good either. That's a big gray area that would just open up a whole new argument and would derail this thread out of hell and into a void.

Edit: Just to make it clear, I agree with urge about child pormography, beastiality, and abuse. That should be condemned and any parent catching their child looking at any of it has full reason to blow up at them over what they saw. That includes extremely harsh punishments.

Somebody asked, "What is normal?"... As a parent, I decide what is, and is not normal for my child to be subjected to. It's my legal responsibility as a parent to do so. When he or she becomes an advlt, then they can decide for themselves what is normal. Until then, I'm in charge. I decide, not society, what is normal.

That's a difficult one. If my child was watching child pormography...Well, I just can't approve of that, I just can't. Basically, I draw the line at anything that's illegal, involves children, animals or physical abuse. Your run of the mill guy "meets" girl is perfectly fine.

However, I would like to make something clear, because it seems my earlier posts are being misinterperated. When I say kid in my posts, I'm not talking about children, I'm talking about pre-teens/teenagers. Basically from around 12 and up. You can argu that a 12 year old is still a child, but there is a very clear difference between a 12 year old and a 5 year olds mindset. Basically, once puperty sets in, you're gonna be interested in this sort of thing, in most cases anyway, condemning it all as a whole does more harm than good, because a sixually confused child will only get hurt by it. Exploring and getting to know your own sixuality is essential to being a well adjusted person in my opinion. sixual orientation doesn't matter, someone who knows what they enjoy will always be more comfortable with themselves than someone who doesn't.

My kids fell asleep after a day of teaching grade schoolers to skate.
The secret to not having a set bedtime from mommy and daddy is to keep busy, and appreciate that goodnight's sleep.

And I agree. All I'm trying to say is talk to your children when they see something offensive.


I, also, agree with this. Since my last post on fetishes was a little murky, this sums up what I was trying to say well.

When my son was younger, I'd just tell him to get his ass to bed.

You sound like how my mom was when I was little. Except with significantly less yelling and berating.

lol sorry but there have been more repression problems in europe and america (you know why) ancient greece and rome had six pretty much everywhere, look at it now, japan is actually better than Europe and America, lower [censored] rates, so really your argument about six in the society a long time ago and repression fails because it was like that here (europe atleast) and we dont have the stuff Japan dose.

My underlying point was repression causes bad things to happen. And odd laws that "help" it only make it worse.

We did that too, back when they were still small and couldn't use logic.
We have never had issues with bedtimes, mainly because between chores, extracurricular and familial activities, they were worn out.

Back then it was:
Seven year old cranky daughter "arrgggghhhhhhh"
Mamagato: "GO TO BED"
she goes to bed



Now it's
cranky sixteen year old : "arrrrrrggggggghhhhh"
Mamagato: Do you require midol? Have you gotten enough rest?
Daughter: "Yes, No, now that I think about it, I am tired. "
she goes to bed

And that's the best kind of parenting in my mind. Instead of forcing your kids to do something, pay some attention to them, spend time with them and find a way for them to spend their energy and they will want to go to bed, instead of you simply ordering them to bed and having them not only fail to see your reasoning (Because you're really not offering any) and fight you on it. Asserting your authority as a parent is of course important, but Mamagato's approach is absolutely the best way of handling it, in my opinion anyway.

Just the opposite with our son. We could tire him out easily as a wee tot. As he got more into his late teens, he developed boundless energy. He had school, marching band, chores and a part time job... and still had to be yanked off X-Box Live when I hit the sack... otherwise he'd stay up to all hours.

Although locking this thread is imminent and warnings will most likely be handed out, I must admit this was one of the better discussions I've seen here.
It was civil, had points from both sides, and nobody got up in arms over anything. To think one of the most civil discussion came out of porm.

I actually enjoyed this. Strange considering I hate debating/arguing over the internet over anything. AND it ended with a totally new conversation cropping up over how parents put their children to bed.

It ain't to 200 just yet

I'm a bit surprised myself.