@TtP so are you going to stop your kid watching tv, playing videogames and other things that glorify violence ? porm would skew their veiws true, but there are other things that are worse and more common to worry about.

Its a slippery slope. Thats really as much as we can get into it without getting too personal.

I for one would not want to touch it with a 10 foot pole.

Oy....

Mamagato, wherever you are, this one is yours.

:lol:

Seriously though, children should not be watching pormography. I mean..... jesus christ.

If your on about the porm thing, the reason its an issue is because of everyone making it one. Its also one you cant hide forever.

Be careful with that phrasing.

That depends on how you define "young child". A 5 year old wouldn't have any interest in watching porm anyway, and a 12-14 year old is old enough to have some common sense, and realize that porm is not real. It's like violent games really, a kid with some common sense can play whatever they want.

Wow, aren't you cool.

What is petty and pointless rules to you?

:huh:

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That's the thing- I'm sure many 12-14 year olds would be unaffected by videogames films and porm becuase they've been raised with stable minds. But doesn't this mean we're condemning the unstable ones to strange neuroses?

I'm not saying that children should be allowed to watch porm. I'm not saying parents should encourage their child to watch porm. I'm saying that if a parent catches their child watching porm, instead of punishing them or yelling at them or anything like that, sit down and talk with them about what they just saw (NOT IN DETAIL) and explain exactly what they saw. Don't freak out like they just murdered someone but don't just ignore it. Sure a bit of scolding wouldn't harm but when you yell at your kid like they've just killed someone it doesn't do any good. It just makes them more curious about what they've seen. In-fact, it's one of the better times to explain the "birds and the bees". They've seen what go's down so all you've gotta do is lead that into how a baby is made and give 'em the talk about children/parenting and all that jazz.

Urge's response go's well with this post too. Take it for what you want though.

Edit: "Condemning the unstable ones to a strange neurosis." If they're already unstable then hiding violence/porm/etc. isn't gonna do much for em. There is no guarantee that at no point in their life they aren't gonna bare witness to whatever it is you are so desperately hiding from them. Doing so will just cause them to snap at a much higher degree once they see what's been hidden from them.

I dont see an issue with the phrasing. Explain how porm is any worse than the stuff I could get on the TV now, and its bad because people say it is, dont see anything evil/wrong with 2 consenting advlts having six, if they want to tape it and post it on the internet its their choice.

I'd just like to point out that I wasn't exactly responded to just your post. IDK why I quoted it, but I was more or less responding to the issue of children watching pormography.

It's because of what porm is that children shouldn't watch it. I would be pissed if my child was looking at porm on the internet, I would condemn it and be mad at them. If they were caught looking at a Playboy though, it is a much MUCH different issue. It's all about class. Children should not be exposed to all the disgusting things porm does on the internet. At least not until they are much older. Common sense people. Common [censored] sense.

Playboy actually has some class. pormz on the Internet is mostly utter trash that completely degrades women down to nothing more than a [censored] object. Pun intended, even though you can't see the actually word.

Two wrongs don't exactly make a right, and using that reasoning you can flush entire cultures and civilisations down the drain. Maybe people say its bad because it actually is?

What I meant was: Just because we do not see a problem today, doesn't mean that one might not pop up tomorrow.

[edit] completing the double negative.

Maybe it does, but there's a limit to how much can be done about that. People who are mentally unstable need therapy or at the very least parental guidance, beyond that there's not really much more that can be done.

Really though, my point is simply that I don't see anything inherently wrong about pormography or violent media. It's all about who watches it, not the material itself.

Wde do have problems today, because of no one talking about six we have tons of teens getting pregnant, if people actually talked and didnt try to brush it under the rug that problem wouldnt be as bad as it is.

I think you mean menopause. It's an actual medical condition, her ovaries no longer produce eggs, and it has thrown her endocrine system into dysfunction.
You'd be pretty miserable too, having hot flashes, night sweats, dry skin, losing hair, feeling poorly, and all the other hormonal issues that go with it.
Be one of those kinder, wiser gentlemen, don't blame anger on pms or homones. There is a reason anger is there, and it's not just her being miserable.

I can understand that. If you catch a child watching abusive porm or something that's just flat out disgusting on every level then yes, you have full reason to be pissed at them. Problem is though that they'll just take it with a grain of salt and get what they want from their friends. (No not six, images of whatever it was they watched or the use of their internet just to look it up.)

Edit: But again, just sit down with them and talk them. Explain what they saw. Explain why you're pissed. Explain whatever it is you need to explain. Don't just blow up on them and think it's all done with and little angle will never peek at devil film again.

Your right. We do have plenty of problems as is. Why create more?

Yeah but the material can be pretty disgusting at times... most of the time

Our current attitude is the reason some of the problems exist in the first place.

By 'our' and 'we'... who are we referring to? Levi asks

Society I think, atleast thats what I am refering too.

Personally, I believe if parents/advlt figures, are gonna talk to adolescents about six, they should be pretty frank about it. But just make it clear, if you're gonna have six, wear and condem and make sure she's on the pill.

Unless....you want a kid or something. I dunno.

I agree, that's the difficult part of online porm. Even the most mainstream pormsites, at least the free ones, are basically just a dump for all kinds of pormography, with no separation between normal porm and the worst fetishes. However, whenever I look up porm, and I see something truly [censored] up, I don't watch it, I move on and try to forget what I saw. I realize it's harder for a younger kid to do that, especially one that's not spending a lot of time online and is to a certain degree used to seing the worst parts of it.

So let me repeat what I said. There is nothing wrong with the concept of pormography itself. But there is a lot of stuff out there that just shouldn't be watched by anyone. However, if I had a kid, and I caught him watching porm. Instead of being angry and condemning it, I'd talk to him/her and explain just how saturated the internet is with crap that you really do not want to see. And rather than trying to ban them from watching porm in general, I'd rather just tell them to be carefull and be aware of the fact that you can stumble across all kinds of weird crap online.

Call me what you want, but I will never become a puritan who condemns something without a sensible reason behind it. I condemn child porm, however that doesn't mean all porm deserves the same treatment.