Lol, bad grammar is an internet thing for me
I've already started summer school, btw

I do track and cross country, too, but it's just impossible for me to fall asleep that early. It seems like I only get tired after eleven, no matter how much sleep I actually need. I hate that, because I'm always tired. Actually, this happened ever since my parents got rid of my bedtime... I wish I had a bedtime.

Well that svcks.
Its much easier when your parents have low expectations. When you get all C's an A is an acheivement to be celebrated. When you get all A's a C is a slipup that should be punished.

Heck, I'm 18 and I still have a set time my parents tell me to go to bed. Annoying as heck? Definitely. Mostly because my mom is a total backside if I'm even ten minutes late. <_<

I think I'll just have to wait out the bedtime thing. but it makes me feel less-annoyed knowing that theres people older than me with bedtimes.

Touching.
How many kids do you have?

Just punch them... tell 'em to stuff it in their pipe... smash your mums favorite toy... and then just ignore them.

I'm 13 and my bedtime is "10:30" they say, but they really care when I go to bed as long as it's not past 12:00 (on school nights). Weekends I stay up as long as I want. I respect my parents and all, but if they tried to make me go to any summer camp or school (which they wouldn't) then I would argue for weeks until they get annoyed and give up, but thankfully they don't even try.

Good plan,sir.

Good luck with it,be patient and respectful and only good things can come.

But i know some kids who have some pretty strict bedtimes, but they say that they can stay up as long as they want in the summer. But nope, not me this year.

I stopped having a set bedtime when I was 17, and at that point I was going to bed at nine just because I was used to it. I sometimes wish I could go to bed that early nowadays, but I usually work until 6 or so, and with dinner and homework and wind-down time (usually as procrastination from homework) I don't usually get to bed until midnight. Yeesh. <_<

the best thing you can do is just obey your parents, the rules they lay down are important and have reasons, the more you listen to them and do what they say without complaining the more they loosen the leash around your neck. for instance when i was 13 i wasnt really allowed to go very many places with friends, and i always had to call and tell them where i was if they werent there, i thought it was stupid. but they were only doing it to keep me safe. when i first started driving they layed down the law the first day, and it was pretty harsh, but ive obeyed ever little bit of it and now i can go stay all night at the lock in at the skating rink or go where ever i want. all because they trust me to do the right thing, and trust is very important with your parents. so my advice, do your chores without complaining, keep up the grades, exceed your parents expectations and they will reward you for it, the more they can trust you to do the right thing the more they're going to let you do, so prove to them you can and will do whats right. hope that helps

Exactly. Many advlts would do well to have a bedtime so they stop being late for work.

Being late is a big pet peeve of mine. A good work ethic requires being punctual.

My kids don't have a bedtime, they go own their own. Usually before ten pm. All year. They know from experience that if you have sleep patterns opposite of your school needs that you will be late. Excessive tardiness gets one detention, or worse, Saturday School. They also know if they don't get up, a rude awakening will follow. They had a bedtime when they were younger, though.
Summer school isn't just for people with unsatisfactory grades, it is also for those students in ap classes, and those wanting to graduate with college credit. Had a friend that did summer school all four years of high school, plus zero hours and took graduation requirement courses to graduate while still an elventh grader. I took physical education in summer school at high school so it would be out of the way, and I could concentrate on academic electives. It was awesome, we went swimming, bowling, and played volleyball. Easiest A ever.

Heh, my son also runs cross country and track, plus does pole vaulting and boy scouts. He passed out on the couch before 9pm.
It's a shame he has to go to summer school this summer, he flunked a semester of religious instruction.

I grew up in a very strict household, with a certain strict religious basis, and I know a lot of what you're going through. As a kid I had chores, bed times, TV time limits, and I couldn't play teen games until I was 13; all that horrid stuff. I hated every minute of it.

However, I was lucky enough to be born 3rd so my parents were too tired, too lazy, or just didn't care enough to keep up their high standards for as long as they did with my siblings. I never liked people telling me what to do as a kid, and I made sure to do my fair share of rebelling as a teenager. I fought with my parents every step of growing up, and eventually I gained near total control of my life, for better or for worse. I made my fair share of mistakes, but I always realized what my problems were and I worked through them. I feel better knowing why I should do the right thing, other than some advlt saying that it's what I 'should' do.

I never liked the "sit and accept" approach, you're an individual and you should assert your independence. Don't mindlessly rebel, but if you have an issue with how you're being treated vocalize it. Teenagers do stupid things, but that doesn't mean they should be repressed from learning life lessons. Not everyone should be given total freedom, but you seem levelheaded enough that you should be given a bit more slack than this. Tell your parents what you think of their hovering, tell them what you want, and if they're not completely ignorant, maybe you'll reach a compromise.

The best years of your life are ahead of you, make some mistake while you've got the chance.

This.

You know what you have to do...

Tip: go to bed really early, say 5 or so. You should wake up around midnight or 1 A.M.

This

Then it'd just be like a sort of father/son, mother/daughter awkward bonding experience.

On another note, I still have a "bedtime" on certain days... :cryvaultboy: I'm told to be in bed by midnight, or I won't wake up in time to get up and take my girlfriend to work, which is a serious drag when you start inviting your lady to sleep over and next thing you know, she's bringing in a whole Uhaul truck full of her [censored] and pounding in a stake with a flag and a whole written up document stating she is now fully living in your apartment. :violin:

It's the cirrrrrrrrrrrrrrcle of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX07j9SDFcc

So, I think I just have to go ahead and say it.

i look pretty important in your life, and in simba's life for that matter.
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I'm 19 and I go to sleep at 10:30 on my own. Landscaping all day in the summer without enough sleep is rough to say the least.

Sometimes I feel like if my parents were more helicopter-esque I'd not be where I am now. Which most likely would be a very good thing. Be glad that they care enough to do such things.

Still in college, and my dad still tries to enforce a bedtime. Hard to tell him that because I often had to lead a night owl kind of life due to my studies (chemistry), I am often up at late hours (till 2:00am or more) still doing homework or studying. Trust me, it's really hard to break bad sleep patterns, and you should enjoy the sleep you can get now, for you won't be sleeping much when you are older.

Though, he has lately stopped trying.