Ulysses Theory

Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:32 am

I love how they're building the story of Ulysses and the Courier up little by little in the DLCs, I was talking to Graham in Honest Hearts and he mentions Ulysses, confirming that he's a member of the Legion.
I can't wait for Lonesome Road.
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Jason King
 
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:04 am

Here's my wacky theory, reposted from another thread in the spoilers section--

Spoiler
Some of the speculation here is pretty extreme.
I think we can safely assume the following to be true --

Ulysses is human. Not a clone, not a cyborg, not an android, not an alien, not from the past or the future. Every major protagonist in this game (except Yes-man and House, to a degree) is a human being. As this is a story about people I doubt this will change.

Ulysses is not a blood relative of the Courier. Our characters can be one of four races; it's unlikely that there will be 4 Ulysses models in the game.

The relationship between Ulysses and the Courier will not be romantic. The game designers will not impose a sixual preference on the Courier.

Ulysses will not be firmly tied to any faction. I may be wrong about this (bearing in mind the 'join Elijah' option in Dead Money); it would be more desirable from a game play perspective to allow equal play time for members of each faction. Also, as a DLC, the story must be playable at any point in the MQ -- it cannot rely on faction loyalty by the player, either.

Okay, here's my speculation.

Ulysses once was a Bighorner rancher in the Mojave. At some point, perhaps after an incident involving the Courier, he leaves to travel the world. Dissatisfied with the factions vying for the Mojave, perhaps after working with one or more (the Legion connection?), he wears the flag of a dead nation on his back.
He explores the Big Empty, performing fairly heroically. He finds a weapon there.
He test detonates this weapon (created under an old world flag) at the spot that will become the Divide [At a strategic point that disrupts the NCR without totally crippling them, maintaining a precarious balance of power].
He maintains a presence in the legion throughout this time, gaining reputation (deserved?) as a Frumentarii assassin.
In Primm, he discovers that the Courier is still alive (was he expecting the Courier to be dead on general principles or did a specific incident lead him to this belief? Remember the 'two bullets' controversy -- was Benny the first person to fail to execute our hard-headed Courier?) and refuses the Platinum Chip delivery. Was this really an act of revenge, or did he want the Courier to get 'sorted out' mentally about the state of the Mojave? Or did he refuse delivery because he feared being recognized by House?
In Lonesome Road (referring to Ulysses's journey?), the Courier is contacted by Ulysses and summoned to the Divide. I believe that Ulysses will attempt to hire or secure the loyalty of the Courier, as a sort of mini-faction, to help him use the Divide Weapon against the enemies of the Mojave. It's a given that, save for a Dead Money-style early ending, the Courier must refuse, either because of the nature of the weapon or because Ulysses is, in fact, unhinged.

Here's an alternate theory -- perhaps Ulysses is just a mercenary and wants to sell the divide weapon -- there may be representatives of each faction appearing in the DLC. That could be fun. Not sure what the Courier's role would be if that is the case.


Eh?


Not bad. Though I'd hope for Ulysses to be added to the main game as he was originally intended: A companion with lots of complicated ties to the main plot. Though nobody who has been introduced through DLC has become a companion even when it seems like they'd be completely likely to (Dog/God, Dean, Follows-Chalk).
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:49 pm

Ahh Ulysses, the dreadlock sporting mystery man.

He was the other courier that was suppossed to deliver the chip right? Didn't he drop the job because he heard about you or something?

Does that mean he wanted the courier dead, knowing it was practically a suicide mission or something, so he gave the job up for the courier to take?

I guess since he's Frumentarii he found out about the chip somehow. Maybe he was the Frumentarii Caesar sent to find whatever House was doing. Maybe he was the frumentarii in charge of taking out House. Bet thats why he was in the Big Empty. Then he got side tracked with Christine or something and changed his priorities, learned about the chip at BE and learned about the Courier taking the package.

Meh?

I think Johnson Nash will ask you to drop a parcel out near Lonesome road/Divide, the pay is immense but no one has taken the offer into the hell hole. Who sent it? There might be indication that is was one of the main factions and to figure out who ordered the sent parcel will be the big question in the DLC. Also you will be given strict orders to not open the parcel. But whats inside?

lol
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:58 am

Who the heck is going to do his Voice over, now that's something that I would love to know.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:39 am

Who the heck is going to do his Voice over, now that's something that I would love to know.

James Earl Jones. :celebration:

"Currier, I am your father" (sorry for the trope. They did say there was a relationship there, right?)

-Gunny out.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:20 am

Who the heck is going to do his Voice over, now that's something that I would love to know.



Samuel L. Jackson

"I'm tired of these mother [censored] Couriers in my mother [censored] Divide!"
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:10 am

Ulysses is really Moira Brown.....imo
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patricia kris
 
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:39 pm

Ice-Cube for Ulysses ftw.
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Angus Poole
 
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:14 pm

i am telling you it is just a business rivalry blown out of proportion. You stole a job Ulysses wanted a few years back and he wants revenge.

also +1 vote for Samuel L. Jackson for Ulysses.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:45 am

i am telling you it is just a business rivalry blown out of proportion. You stole a job Ulysses wanted a few years back and he wants revenge.

also +1 vote for Samuel L. Jackson for Ulysses.

Thats it im tired of this mother f***ing courier taking my mother f***ing delivery jobs!
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:20 pm

psh, its obvious Ulysses found the courier's wallet, he just wants to return it for him, when the courier receives it he finds his/her money isn't all there. They argue about it, without a high enough speech skill you get into a fist fight to reclaim your caps...probably

This for sure, I would pay 800 Microsoft points just so I could get my wallet back!
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:08 pm

I guess since he's Frumentarii he found out about the chip somehow. Maybe he was the Frumentarii Caesar sent to find whatever House was doing. Maybe he was the frumentarii in charge of taking out House. Bet thats why he was in the Big Empty. Then he got side tracked with Christine or something and changed his priorities, learned about the chip at BE and learned about the Courier taking the package.


Did it ever say anything about him being a Frumentarii? I thought a "certain person" just said that there was a courier working for Caesar to assasinate him, He could've have been a hired to do it.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:58 am

The Courier is actually Ulysses's wife, and they had a divorce and are going into a cat fight over the house plant after Mrs. Ulysses sent Mrs. Courier a letter about the cookies being burnt.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:59 am

Ulysses is really Moira Brown.....imo

Don't u ever ever speak that name ever. I could make a list of what I did to the thing and still my hate for it burns like fire.
P.S. I know it was sarcasm but plz I forgot about her and u just had to brought it right back up and now I need to see a mental doc excuss me
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:39 am

The battle at The Divide is going down and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReIgAdtwcZY&feature=channel_video_title
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:26 am

Chuck Norris for Ulysses.
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Anna Watts
 
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:31 am

I heard Ulysses. is like the Steven Segal of this world..

HEard it here first
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:21 pm

i'm still going to woop his a**
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:26 am

Sorry did not know this was trolling. What am I doing that is trolling I just thought this stuff up. So it is not in the game.

What did I do that was trolling


You said something that he didn't agree with which demands swift and violent retorts from the vocal minority on this forum

a.k.a. You weren't really trolling, he is trolling you.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:53 am

Ulysses is the son of Allistair Tenpenny. He escaped the CW and went to the Mojave where he finds the Courier has the same mystical "player character" powers that the LW who killed his father had, he then in turn assumes the two are one in the same. And that's where our story begins. It's confirmed. Via Twitter.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:33 pm

You said something that he didn't agree with which demands swift and violent retorts from the vocal minority on this forum

a.k.a. You weren't really trolling, he is trolling you.

Sounds about right, seems like the mods like to protect the minority.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:32 pm

Ulysses is the son of Allistair Tenpenny. He escaped the CW and went to the Mojave where he finds the Courier has the same mystical "player character" powers that the LW who killed his father had, he then in turn assumes the two are one in the same. And that's where our story begins. It's confirmed. Via Twitter.



is it? where?
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:02 pm

Ulysses is the son of Allistair Tenpenny. He escaped the CW and went to the Mojave where he finds the Courier has the same mystical "player character" powers that the LW who killed his father had, he then in turn assumes the two are one in the same. And that's where our story begins. It's confirmed. Via Twitter.

I hope you were being sarcastic.
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