unplayable on sdtv

Post » Sun May 20, 2012 5:36 am

That email was a response to someone asking about the small text, not about the screen cutoff. Besides, other users have gotten replies stating that Beth ARE working on it. And every email I've sent to them they just ignore what I'm saying and give me a canned response that sounds like a robot wrote it.

That's probably because it was a canned response that was "written by a robot". Yet another reason I am losing respect for Bethesda at the moment. If they were to man up and start acting like a responsible company that gives a damn about their costumers, then I may change that opinion. But as is, things aren't looking too good with them in my book.
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 2:30 pm

No actually the response we both referred too was obviously personally writen and not canned.
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 4:57 pm

I am a young college student, living off of a part time job and federal aid.
I can't afford an HDTV. I do have a fairly nice SD though; it's a 56"

That being said, I bought Skyrim after many months of anxious anticipation,
and a few hours of standing in line at gamestop. I was so exited to play this
game. I have died countless time because I cannot see my health bar,
or mana bar. The only thing I can see on my HUD is the bottom half
of the compass. It is heartbreaking, because I love this game so far,
but I just can't see myself playing it as much as I would like too because
I can't see the hud!

Bethesda, people are complaining about the SD HUD problem en masse.
This thread has a huge number of views compared to all the other ones
on the forum. Please tell us if you are going to fix this problem.

My GF and I are eating Ramen noodles and bell peppers for a week to afford this game,
and if you aren't going to listen to your customers and fix a fairly simple problem
that is ruining an otherwise great gaming experience, then we would
like to know so that we can get our money back and eat some real food.

99%

So go occupy Beth Soft. If you are sacrificing what you eat to get a stupid game then you really need to re-evaluate your priorities.
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 9:34 am

So go occupy Beth Soft. If you are sacrificing what you eat to get a stupid game then you really need to re-evaluate your priorities.

Glad I'm not the only one noticing this....
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 8:24 am

Amongst all the many games that were coming out the end of this year, I of course had to put my money down on Skyrim. With my income versus debt, I knew I wouldn't be able to afford anything beyond just one brand new game this year and I wanted it to last. I put $10 down every paycheck because I couldn't reasonably afford any more (and much as I enjoy games as the next person, my real life bills and expenses matter way more than a fantasy life). I'm saying this to bring it home to people who suggest the "just buy a HD-TV" option. Believe me, I would if I could, and if other SD TV users could they would, but I myself just simply cannot afford it, and it would take me eons to save up for it.

The one and only thing I DESPISE about Skyrim is the tiny text: all glitches I've experience that did not effect my progress in quests and leveling up I can forgive with the nature of the game's design. But reading anything beyond the major subtitles is a chore, hence I have no idea what any of the town names are (and only learn of them if a character says the name) and I'm pretty clueless on most of the NPC names as well. Even finding the quest marker on the map is a bother. It's a major hassle and lessens the immersion into the game.

I just hope Bethesda is mindful of this in the future, strives to find a solution, and understands that they under-delivered to their SD-TV audience.

As far as prioritizing one's video games over one's food intake, and the "99%" and all ... Sheesh people, beyond it all, it's just a darn video game. No one but YOU is responsible for your life. Options you have, choices you make. End sermon.


TL;DR = I suffer from SD-TV playing. Can't afford HD-TV. Shouldn't have to buy an HD-TV to enjoy a simple video game. Can you fix Bethesda? Pls + Thnx.
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 9:58 pm

Agreed, i have the same problem. Makes completing quests a total pain cause you cant see the fricken map at the top.
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 11:17 am

A simple 20" television costs you barely over 200 bucks, IF that. If you have enough money to buy a 60 dollar game, then you obviously you have a job that pays well enough to the point where you can spend a few weeks saving up the dough to get with the program and buy said television.

Think about it. Bethesda puts out a patch. Great. What about that next game you buy? Or the next? Or the next? Are they gonna all cave and put out patches too? Save up your money because claiming you don't have enough is just you being lazy (and if you legit don't have the money no matter what, then you shouldn't game at all).

If you have a game then you have a console of some type. That alone tells me that you have money.
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 12:54 pm

I recently found something everyone here might be interested in.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb203938.aspx

"Programmers should ensure that any critical information (score, number of lives, ammo, and so on) is displayed within the title safe region while drawing the background or a 3D scene across the entire display. Critical text should be displayed within the inner 80 percent of the screen. Programmers should also ensure that any text displayed on the screen is large enough to be legible on a standard television."

"To avoid letterboxing, developers must program their games to use both standard and widescreen aspect ratios, and adjust their display to the default aspect ratio offered by the Xbox 360."
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 8:14 am

A simple 20" television costs you barely over 200 bucks, IF that. If you have enough money to buy a 60 dollar game, then you obviously you have a job that pays well enough to the point where you can spend a few weeks saving up the dough to get with the program and buy said television.

Think about it. Bethesda puts out a patch. Great. What about that next game you buy? Or the next? Or the next? Are they gonna all cave and put out patches too? Save up your money because claiming you don't have enough is just you being lazy (and if you legit don't have the money no matter what, then you shouldn't game at all).

If you have a game then you have a console of some type. That alone tells me that you have money.

Read our other posts, [censored]. Just because one has a job doesn't mean you have enough to throw around for a freakin television. I saved up for Skyrim for months. And yes I have a 360. That's because I bought it when I was getting student loans! Now [censored] off because your useless opinion isn't helping anything.
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 3:02 pm

I'm sure being hostile and throwing insults around will make more people sympathetic to the plight of the SDTV user that has a thousand excuses as to why he can't upgrade but owns an Xbox, laptop, and iPod. Whether you like it or not, the guy you quoted is right.
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 1:48 pm

I'm sure being hostile and throwing insults around will make more people sympathetic to the plight of the SDTV user that has a thousand excuses as to why he can't upgrade but owns an Xbox, laptop, and iPod. Whether you like it or not, the guy you quoted is right.

No, they're not. I already explained how I managed to own those things. Just because I was able to get those things before, doesn't mean I am able to get a new TV now.
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 9:27 am

I recently found something everyone here might be interested in.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb203938.aspx

"Programmers should ensure that any critical information (score, number of lives, ammo, and so on) is displayed within the title safe region while drawing the background or a 3D scene across the entire display. Critical text should be displayed within the inner 80 percent of the screen. Programmers should also ensure that any text displayed on the screen is large enough to be legible on a standard television."

"To avoid letterboxing, developers must program their games to use both standard and widescreen aspect ratios, and adjust their display to the default aspect ratio offered by the Xbox 360."

Nice. This puts the final nail in the coffin for the argument that "Xbox 360 is intended to be HD only."

Anyway, I think we should all cool it a little. I'm guilty of losing my head in this thread, too, and being too rude about things, I'll admit that.

But I want to emphasize that it's equally rude to make assumptions about other peoples' incomes. Maybe this is just the way I was raised, but I've always felt it was wrong to tell somebody how they should spend their money. It's a very personal subject, but if I need to explain my personal circumstances to justify myself, I will. In my case, I'm on a scholarship for college, and my budget for anything other than food and rent is very thin. I saved up money for six months for the 360, on which I spent $200, specifically so I could purchase Skyrim. I could spend two hundred on an HD television, but it would take me another six months to save. Moreover, I graduate in a few months, and pressure is mounting on me to add to my savings account.

So no, I am not going hungry while I waste money on hundreds of video games, nor am I well-off and griping about technology I can afford. I am struggling a little in this economy, and I made room in my budget and saved up money because this game was very special to me. A whole lot of people are in that same boat with me, and your comments about our finances feel a lot like ridicule. I think that's where the anger and hostility comes from.
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 7:17 am

I feel for you guys who can't currently afford an HDTV. It's not just Skyrim, I know, but many games. The one that convinced me it was becoming a problem was Mass Effect 2; I couldn't read anything, and was unable to enjoy it . I was lucky enough to get a decent HDTV, but I know not everyone is. It svcks, but there's nothing you can do short of finding the money. When people complained about the issue with Mass Effect, Bioware flat out said "we're not fixing that."
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 4:44 pm

If bethesda said they can't do it, then why complain like this still?


Can't vs won't and don't care.
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 3:56 pm

I've been playing on my 20" sd in the basemant for over 200 hours with no problems, with everything on the screen with no cut offs. Then today I hooked up to the bigger 32" sd upstairs, even more on the screen, people looking a little slimmer and quite sharp. My sister is getting her second hd tv and giving me her fair size sd, if it's as good as the one upstairs, I'm in business.

Anyone playing Skyrim on black and white tv's ?
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 11:14 am

I've been playing on my 20" sd in the basemant for over 200 hours with no problems, with everything on the screen with no cut offs. Then today I hooked up to the bigger 32" sd upstairs, even more on the screen, people looking a little slimmer and quite sharp. My sister is getting her second hd tv and giving me her fair size sd, if it's as good as the one upstairs, I'm in business.

Anyone playing Skyrim on black and white tv's ?

I play skyrim on my 20 inch SDTV, and it is unplayable almost, even when switching to widescreen. I have glasses and can't read the text when it's loading... I never know how much money I get from coin pouches, and half the compass is cut off. Stop lying. This is the case for everyone and how can Bethesda NOT do it? It CAN be done they're just a bunch of lazy workers who wants to get easy money and not care about us. Screw them and all the rest of the companies who don't care about their customers.
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 9:57 pm

He doesnt have to be "lying". SD TVs have something called Overscan, where the screen's area extends beyond the borders of the frame of the TV. Some televisions have more of it than others do, so the "cutoff" is different for every tv.

Go on google and search your model of TV with "Service mode". Some of them, especially the newer ones, have codes you can enter with the remotes to adjust features you can't normally get to and overscan is often (but not always) one of them.

Back when I first got my 360 I had a 42 inch tv and Oblivion was hard to play for the same reason, till I found my TV's service mode code. That let me tolerate it long enough to save up for my first HDTV.
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 7:52 am

ost limit.
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