Well that's fine and all. I can understand your blight, but don't go gripping out the developers because you chose to play on a SDTV when the optimal way to experience the game was made in HD as clearly stated on the back of the Skyrim box. Also after reading all this SDTV material, i got like 3 in the basemant i need to get rid of those old junkers. Plus it doesn't affect all SDTV's as i'm sure some got a scaling feature of some sorts. Black Friday would be a super time to get a steal on a good TV. I know everyone can't afford that but i would just put back the minimum ammount of money, like say even a few bucks a week and then wait for next years big Black Friday sales to kick up or find a cheapo SDTV that will work with the game. I know you don't want to wait a year to play Skyrim and all. These are just some of my suggestions for people on a budget.

I haven't been gripping out the developers, I have only posted that I have no complaints with playing Skyrim on my 20" SD TV. My life doesn't revolve around the latest tech trends, but am happy that I can play Skyrim with no beefs. All I wanted to say is "Skyrim is playable on SD TV", in my case anyroad.

People read the back of boxes? It's playable for me too, it's just annoying knowing I can't see my full compass and I'm not experiencing what I'm supposed too. Kinda svcks. Still; very much playable.

You guys with SDTV failed to read the box the game comes in and purchased anyways and decide to complain about it? How is that fair? You guys are using 40 year old technology and expect Bethesda to reformat a display for SD TV's? Come on now.....

Once again another extremely ignorant comment by a spoiled rich kid.
The point is not that (although alot of companies do it) they have to adapt the game to work fully on sdtvs,
it's that they don't even add a simple screen resizing feature which would solve ALL the problems everyone is having.
It's so terribly simple to make and implement, saying it's ''impossible'' is a blatant lie.

I did read the box actually. AFTER I bought the game at midnight. And the numbers on the back don't mean [censored] considering EVERY single game I've ever played on this Xbox worked just fine, no matter if the box said 480p or 1080i. And most of those games had screen resizing options anyway. I just don't see why Bethesda can't fix something so simple. Like I said before, a warning would have been nice.
And to the people harassing us in this thread: please leave. I don't care if it's "just like your opinion dude" (how old are you again?). You're not helping anything. If you really want to help, buy us all HDTVs, since it is sooooo easy. And it's not 40 year old technology. I got this tv when the Xbox 360 came out, a system that HAS THE OPTION FOR SDTVs in the first place.

First off watch your attitude bro. I am no kid, nor am I rich as much as I'd like to be.

Secondly I wasn't throwing insults or dissing anybody. I was simply stating a case to the issue at hand. A lot of companies are directing their products towards newer technology for a reason. Notice how 95% of all TV stations show the picture in wide screen format?

If you guys can afford internet, the game and system to play it on you can afford a TV that isn't the same thing your parent(s) used back in the day.

You are full of [censored]. I share Internet costs with my roommates. I bought the 360 back when I was getting student loans. And I got the TV as a Christmas gift. Just because you had the money to buy an HDTV, doesn't mean the rest of us do. Don't pretend like you know our situation. And again, this tv isn't that old. I got it brand new when the Xbox 360 came out.

I had the money because I saved for it.

You're just a jerk dude. Ease off the hostile button.

480i has gone the way of the buffalo ladies, like CDs and VHS. New games are all about resolution and you just can't get that on old tech no matter how you look at it...Moores law.

Xmas is right around the corner, might be a good time to ask your people's for a modern tv

Why are you guys even in this thread? To rub it in our faces that we got jacked? GTFO.

Again you continue with the ignorance.
You're saying if someone buys a 250 dollar xbox years ago, and a 60 dollar xbox now, it's impossible that they don't have another 300-800 dollars to spend on a decent HD tv?
That's like if you were to buy a car that costs 10 grand, a fiat panda or whatever.
Then I would say to you: ''Hey dude, why didn't you buy a jaguar? If you buy a car you might as well buy a good one.''
Except it simply does not work that way.
But apparently you somehow fail to come to a reasonable conclusion in your head and just spout ignorant nonsense.

Except not everyone is a 14 year old kid that gets 300+ dollar christmas presents from his parents....

Text size is way too small to read on my tv.

I'd also like to point out that even people with HDTVs have this problem. There's been numerous people saying as much across this thread and the rest of this forum.

Get with the times? You want new gaming experiences, get new gear. Simple as that.
New lcd tvs are very cheap, 200 bucks if that for a 30 something inch.

I am a college student, I work part time, live on my own, and was still able to buy an HDTV. Anyone using a standard TV for gaming should have got the hint when the 360 came out that it was time to switch. Standard TV's DO NOT have the resolution to support font very well. I agree it svcks having the HUD pushed off the screen, and I agree that you shouldn't have to buy an HDTV to enjoy the game. Lets just be real though. Most game companies are not going to spend their time and money making sure their games work with old televisions so that people can continue to live in the stone age. The game industry has evolved to the point where companies are trying to put out the best looking games they can, not dumb it down.

This problem is only going to get worse for you people still using Standard TVs, hate to say it. Look on Craig's List, eBay, or if you have a flat screen computer monitor get the cable for that. I can walk into my local retail store and find an 32" HDTV for $300. That is a way better deal than the $1100 I paid for mine a couple years ago.

For those threatening to trade the game in for MW3, that threat means nothing to Bethesda. You already bought the game, they have your money already. The only thing they will lose out on is DLC purchases, BUT you all sound too broke to afford those also.

Since when is five years ago the stone age?

And since when must there be a new system twice a decade that renders the old one obsolete and unusable?
Thats blatant consumerism, wasteful.

Okay, let me be absolutely clear and reiterate two things.

1. Not all SDTVs have the same TV-safe region. If y'all had ever worked on materials for TV broadcast, you'd know that. This means Skyrim is fully playable on some SDTVs, mostly playable on others, and unplayable on others. It depends on which particular SDTV you own. Just because it works on your particular SDTV doesn't mean it works on others.

2. The aspect ratio label on the back of the box was not a sufficient warning. It is an optimization suggestion, one printed on almost every modern game. This particular problem with the HUD cropping and no resize feature is pretty much without precedent. That is, people spent their money on this game with no reasonable way of knowing it wouldn't work for them.


So fine, fine, fine, I get it. I'm in the stone age, I'm broke, I'm on welfare, I should have a richer family and make them buy me new technology, whereas you are brilliant with finances and super tech savvy. You've all made your point. And I don't care. Bethesda sold people a product when those people had no reasonable way of knowing it would fail to work on their hardware. Bethesda is responsible for that problem. I'm complaining about that tech issue because this is a subforum for tech issues. Your theories about my finances have no place on this subforum. For the love of God, take it elsewhere, you're wasting everyone's time.

some people just dont have the dirt

Exactly. The numbers on the back are all mostly the same and no matter what they say, they've always worked on my tv before. I had no reason to believe that the HUD would be cut off when I play Skyrim. Small text I can deal with but this is much different. My tv works fine for everything besides this game. I shouldn't have to get a new one for that reason alone. Bethesda needs to do something (anything) about this. There have been people posting about this problem everyday since the game came out. Hell, I could even overlook the texture issues if it meant I could see the HUD.

I'm in the same boat with you buddy, some real spoiled cats in these forums.
I agree, Skyrim shouldn't FORce you to buy a new tv just to play properly. I have had the exact same issue as you so here are some things I have done to alleviate. Turn your HUD opacity all the way up so the HUD is as BOLD as possible, you still wont be able to read the text But you will be able to see all the little icons on the compass way better.
2nd- I went ahead and bought a VGA cable for 360 off of amazon for $4 w free prime shipping it got here in two days and now I am playing in full HD ( there is nothing like going " OHH thats what that says")of of my PC screen with my turtle beaches running through my old tv, and now i can watch conan the barbarian on AMC while I sharpen my skyforge steel.. (kind of distracting really)
so I hope this helps you bro

someone should take you on a trip to skid row, yuppie

That would be great but I and many other people don't have any kind of computer screen to connect to.

then you, my friend, are in squint city