and I'll just add to the confirmation that it is indeed pronounced as Kai-sar. (that's were the dutch Keizer, german kaisar, russian Czar and a lot of other european words for emperor come from)

See-Zar is just the way english speaken persons speak it when they have no Idea what the original language sounded like.

It still happens today, with people not used or not knowing to speaking a language will automatically try to read it out loud in a way familiar to them.

example?

take a few capitals of the world: Paris is pronounced Pah-ree in french, but Par-is in english, Berlin is Ber-leen in German, but Burr-lynn in English. Amsterdam is pronounced Ahm-stur-dahm in Dutch, and we all know what it sounds like in English (can't figure out a way to write it that comes even remotely close to what it sounds like)

I've always pronounced Amsterdam, Am(like the end of ham)-Stir-Damn

I'd pronounce it Am(also like the end of ham)-stur-dam. But that's because I'm Scottish, and therefore several thousand years behind you in terms of evolution.

And then there's ones that make no sense, like how "Deutschland" is "Germany". Why not "Dutchland" or something? Those crazy Brits...

No, It's both ways. It just depends on where you're from.

It comes close, although...



This one is a little closer.



I think Germany comes from the Latin Germania. I can imagine the way they decided on that: All, right Chaps, we need a proper English name for Deutschland. Any idea's?
Well, the Romans called it Germania, how about that?. Sounds good, however we can only afford 7 lettres to be printed, so how About Germany?

And there you ahve it

Thus:

Cicero is properly pronounced Kikero rather than Sissero. Huzzah for proper pronunciation.

In regards to the characters in the video, I'm hoping we can have Rex and one other companion (at least) in our group just like in FO3.

Nice little touch of detail by the way. :tops:

Kaisar is indeed the roman pronounciation of Ceasar.. never knew it after I googled it after this video...


I always did the same thing.. you learn something new every day eh?


Oh wow... you should've seen my face when Lilly talked. O_o proper mindf*ck indeed

You really want me to go there?

I don't know why but for some reason I don't think I can comment on this without sounding stupid

NotEnglandLand. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Because I'm Dutch, not German

Lol by all means.



^ and yay the Dutch are cool. I wish I could speak dutch.

The only line I know is "Ik heb je moeder", and I don't even know if that's right. It looks close enough though lol.

Yes, but the proper, roman-style pronunciation is Kai-Sar

I was on the fence before, but now I am absolutely sold on Lilly as my first companion :celebration:

Yes Yes a Thousand times YES! Finally a game has gotten it right, all the time all you hear is: say-ser or sea-zer! For once the true pronunciation has come to light! Why didn't anyone think of where the old imperial titles came from? German Kaiser? Russian Czar? They all grab at the legacy of Caesar. If my high school latin teacher played Fallout he'd be out of his head right now.

Kind of raises the question though, of how after all the Nukes, and the survival of the nuclear holocaust the actual and not Americanized pronunciation survived. Perhaps the current Caesar hear it in a library of holotapes, or moonlighted as an Indiana Jones history professor before going nuts and starting his legion.

I'm not sure if you know what you are saying, though the words itself are written correctly. Translated that would mean 'I've got your mother'....which I'm sure you really wouldn't want to say unless you just caught her falling from a cliff or drew her name for secret santa's.

As for pronounciation, wow, never knew that Ceasar was pronounced that way. Guess even game forums can be educational right?
If you guys want some difficult dutch cities to pronounce try Scheveningen or 's Hertogenbosch. I would like a few laughs.

Two possibilities:

1. According to Van Buren, Caesar was a former Follower of the Apocalypse, which just so happened to be based out of the Los Angeles Public Library, as of Fallout 1. Caesar would have had plenty of opportunities to read ancient literature and the like. Probably where he got the idea for the whole thing, actually. He would've taught his Legionnaires a lot of stuff, I imagine.

2. Latin was taught in a lot of schools back in the 50's, and being as the pre-war world was pretty heavily influenced socially by that time period, it makes sense that they'd teach Latin in schools right up to (and after, thanks to the Vaults) the Great War. Who knows, maybe Vulpes was a Vault dweller and learnt Latin in high school?

The holotapes sounds plausible for the correct pronounciation. For the "wrong" one I think lore would be a good explanation. I mean, we are discussing Ceasar at this moment, as I have discussed him when talking about other topics. My father talked about ceasar to me, as I will to a possible child of mine as well. So, people telling eachother about Caesar in Vaults or in the Wastes keeps the "wrong" pronounciation alive.

That, or someone just barely understood the recruitment poster and people took over his mispronounciation.

Yes, when I took Latin in high school, that was how we were told to pronounce his name. We also got to celebrate on Fridays with crazy bread from Parvus Caesars :drool:

Edit: And no, I wasn't in high school in the 50s.

I was actually going for the past tense of that.

Or, 's-Gravenhage, Gorinchem, Goidschalksoord. Especially the last two. Even some Dutch can't pronounce them right

I don't know much about the American education system, but in Australia at least, Latin classes were seen as pretty old-fashioned by the 60's and 70's, which is why I said the 50's.

I didn't mean to imply you were old, Gramps.

I've had your mother?

Duuuude.... :cheers:


Edit: If I should take it in the context I'd probably should and am doing at the moment, the proper translation is a bit tricky.

Literally it should be: Ik heb je moeder gehad. Then again, to get the point across a little better, now you could understand it as if the person saying the line actually owns your mother since he'd hhave her, better would be: Ik heb je moeder gedaan or Ik heb je moeder genomen. (I did your mom or I have taken your mother)

Still, better not say this to anyone who understands Now go wash your mouth with soap, you rascal!