Are you using this?

For ATI cards:
http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=34970

For nVidia cards:
http://newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=34778

If not, give it a try. There's a bug with Facegen and the way it configures itself with DX10/11 cards. This fixed it for me.

i didnt have steam when i bought the game and it kept crashing on me. i was sure it was the game itself, but then i bought Frontlines thru steam and it did the same thing!

so i did some troubleshooting and manually updated steam and registered/confirmed my account etc with them. after that the game hasnt crashed once.

Fallout New Vegas is a game to keep us fans going on and on with :fallout: :fallout: :fallout: :fallout: :fallout: :fallout: :fallout:

oh thanks alot for all help guys it runs smooth as a babys buttcheek now. :foodndrink:

My only real problem with the game is that if there are any NPC's around my FPS drops and the game gets so choppy it becomes none playable. There is a .dll fix or something you can download to fix the problem I hear but I haven't messed with it.

@OP nothing is over heating on your PC, if it is then you need to upgrade your setup because even though the game drops to like 15 to 20 fps for me sometimes it puts hardly any load on my graphics card or my CPU itself. Hence why the game needs to be patched because something isn't right with the code or what have you.

Also the developers say its not the programmers fault, the most hilarious thing you will hear in the game industry. The fact of the matter is Fallout 3 uses the same engine New Vegas does and Fallout 3 run's perfect at the time regardless of how it ran when it was released the game runs flawless. Meaning F: New Vegas's bugs are utterly and completey the programmers fault, there is no way around this fact.

Anyway the game will be patched eventually and or you can try the .dll fix that has worked for some people. If I personaly was not a such a Fallout fan I would be saying somewhat similar things the OP said but not on this forum, F: New Vegas is a badazz game and the fact ive played the crap out of it looking past it's bugs says enough about it.

OP:

On my box, which appears to be older than yours (hard to tell as you simply went on a rampage rather that posting any details for us to HELP you) it runs a steady 40fps with settings tweaked between High and Ultra, 19x12, no AA, 16x AF. I've had a grand total of 1 freeze and 1 crash-on-exit. This is a box with Winamp, PowerDVD Ultra, WindDVD 2000 Ultra, DFX, VLC and a bunch of other multimedia gremlins.

Calm down, send me a PM and I'll try to help you.

We've got plenty of "ZOMG THIS GAME IS BUGGY AND IT SUXX0RS THAT I CAN T PLAY AFTER THE END EVEN THOUGH THE GAME CLEARLY WARNS ME ABOUT THE POINT OF NO RETURN" threads, if someone wants to whine, surely they can post their rant in one of those threads so it doesn't pollute the rest of the boards. It's probably good I'm not a mod here, because I'm pretty sure I'd just summarily lock every one of these worthless trash threads except for one, then I'd force everyone to post their whines there lest they feel the righteous touch of the banhammer.



It'd be nice if the critics weren't typically illiterate though. I mean, really, we have posts like the OP as par course while the people defending the game tend to have proper grammar and well-reasoned arguments. It really makes it hard to take the critics seriously.

You should. It fixes that issue.


No, you don't upgrade because something is overheating. Ever. If something is overheating you clean out your case, make sure all of your fans are working, etc. Software is not ever at fault for overheating hardware unless it's somehow overclocking something, which a game is not going to be doing.


No, they said it's not their programmers' fault. That's not the same thing. They didn't create Facegen, which is what is causing the problem. Also, the DLL fix you're referring to has been around in some form for over a year, so obviously this issue isn't new in New Vegas.


Can you give us more details since you obviously have a lot of games development and overall technical software experience?

Really, though. The state the game was released in is not the programmers' fault. It's the publisher's fault and the QA team's fault. The publisher sets the release date and has the power to push it back to make sure all the bugs are fixed. They chose not to. That is not the programmers' fault.

Sorry if this is coming off as inflammatory...it's not meant to be. It just drives me nuts how everyone suddenly becomes a games development expert at times like this.

Quoted post deleted...this can go too. Thanks!

Yet again off-topic posts that didn't contribute to the discussion went away.

Please stay on topic. If all the post is going to add is "your platform suxxors", don't bother to post. That isn't helpful, isn't on-topic, and just gives the mods more stuff to clean up.

That's not true.



That is though.

Anyway, carry on...

You didn't come up with any objections to the actual gameplay. Epic fail.

Weird, my friend has lower specifications than you, sand he seems to run fine, however it did take a long time to download....

Ahahahaha, what is this? Blaming Obsidian for PEBKAC errors? This is a new one. Okay, lemme nitpick this.

If you bought it after release it had to download patches. Steam is awesome, but it isn't perfect, and probably decided "Screw this downloading whole thing". It does things like that once in a while. It could also have detected a dirty/bad disc and, instead of locking you out of your game, fetched it from their servers.


Then maintain your PC. You probably have way too much dust buildup, a crappy cooler, crappy thermal paste, bad fans, bad airflow in general, excessive ambient temps or any combination of those. Don't go blaming failure to maintain your rig on Obsidian, NV doesn't even make my CPU get up to full temp.


I'd like you to take the Gamebryo engine, build a game this big on it from scratch, then release it bug free. Go on. I'm waiting.


As I said earlier it isn't Obsidian's fault you don't know how to properly maintain your machine. Though I will admit they kinda screwed up the direct-X handling from the game engine's perspective but no DXUpdate is going to fix that. For that, just grab a dll fix off newvegasnexus.com

If steam uses up enough memory for this to be a concern you don't have enough memory to be gaming in the first place. My rig has 4 gigs of memory, as such Steam doesn't even register as a blip on the graph.


Obsidian made the game. Not Bethesda. If you're going to spout baseless accusations at least spout them at the right target.




Overall OP, the issues you are experiencing have absolutely nothing to do with Obsidian and everything to do with user error. Maintain your PC a bit, upgrade your ram, and you should note that NV runs fine and Steam doesn't [censored] enough ram to slow anything down.

Yep...like I said, software doesn't make your hardware overheat. Bad cooling does.


My understanding is that it isn't even the game itself, but Facegen identifying the capabilities of the video hardware incorrectly. The DLL fix has been around in some form for over a year, so it's not a new problem in New Vegas.


To be fair, Bethesda did have some people on the project in a non-creative capacity. They also managed production and the QA process.

GPU shouldn't overheat...unless there's overclocking or such involved.

I'm on a 2.4Ghz cpu (yeh, way dated), and a 512 meg 9600GT, and the graphics are magic - get the lag occasionally, get freezes and dropouts/crashes, but F3 got the same thing after Broken Steel (engine problems anyone?).

The game does have problems - noted. They weren't fixed in F3 - so doubt that the bulk of them will be fixed in FNV (which is where you would have expected the fixes would come if they are using the same basic mechanics). Hope things change, though....

As for Steam, get used to it...it is the way of the future (and it's brethren) - Patches come down it, DLC comes down it, piracy is reduced, multiplayer is played on it, you can buy online and get it immediately.

Every new release there is a big download delay issue, there are Steam specific issues, etc. But overall, it's not a bad system. Far better than buying a game, then buying a game mag to get the patch disc, or borrowing someone else's internet to download a patch.

Then don't go into these threads. It was pretty obvious from the title that the OP was going to be complaining about the game. If you can't handle that, why did you even bother to read it? If he wants to have his own thread in order to vent, he's entitled to. This is isn't some Fascist site where certain types of people need to be sent off to some "forum ghetto". He can post just like everyone else as long as he plays by the rules. Which he has. If anyone is breaking the rules here it's you for making personal attacks and generally being insulting. I've certainly seen plenty of complaints that weren't made by people who were illiterate. Maybe the mods should just lock you down instead.

I bought the DVD Version and everything is fine (just used steam to activate and start the game, no download (except patches required)).

The only time I've ever had a problem with a PC overheating was a cruddy old Dell Precision desktop that was on its last legs, non-standard fans and PSU made replacing worn out components more costly than the PC was worth in the first place. It finally died last week.

But as others have said, most of the time when PCs overheat it's due to dust inside the case, give it a clean out once a month. Also check that your fans are running OK, add another case fan if necessary or upgrade the CPU fan if it's old or insufficient.

Sure the sandwich is tasty, but what if the wrapping is in fact a metal box with a lock on it, and the consumer takes ages to open the box do he can taste the sandwitch and he finally cracks open the box and takes a bite of the sandwich and thinks "this is pretty good sandwich." But just as he starts enjoying the sandwitch the box "crashes" (Hehe) shut and relocks the sandwich inside, and he has to goto the trouble just to take another bite. He didn't even have time to "save" some of the crust!

i didnt encounter any major bugs, freezes yes but still a lot less as fallout 3

seems i'm blessed or so

and i'm really enjoying the game

I'm glad people these days think that just because a game is buggy, its a bad game. :rolleyes:

If your GPU is getting an overheat warning and shuts down w. F:NV, you're either doing something terribly wrong with the game settings or the card/cooling system needs a clean.

That being said, i'm running F:NV on the PC aswell, everything on ultra+ w.- various eye candy mods and i've not had any performance issues whatsoever except abit of stutter due to the GFX card not being recognized by the game engine.
Not had a single shutdown, missing gamefiles or "poor" experience with STEAM.

Go go Gadget Apologetics!

How is he suppose to know it's a good game if its next to unplayable? Don't get me erring this is my favorite game but I wouldn't be able to tell if it was a good game if every time I tried to play it for more than 5 minutes it crashed.