So what happened to WARS in Skyrim?

Post » Sat May 26, 2012 7:08 pm

File has been deleted or hidden for almost a week now. Anyone have any news on this?
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Amy Melissa
 
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 4:41 am

Author gone kaput. Pity though. Was an awesome mod. The idea behind it at least. The execution was...well let's just say...improvable.
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neen
 
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 5:03 pm

Lol wat? I was actually waiting for a stable version since it kept crashing for me. :(
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Angel Torres
 
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 5:34 am

Did he state that he didn't want his work reuploaded? I'd love a copy, if someone was willing to share.
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Rude_Bitch_420
 
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 9:06 pm

I have the last stable version that was uploaded with Heros and Vills.
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Taylor Bakos
 
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 4:49 pm

Did he state that he didn't want his work reuploaded? I'd love a copy, if someone was willing to share.

Here

http://www.sendspace.com/file/7qcj8t
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Stay-C
 
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 4:12 pm

Here

http://www.sendspace.com/file/7qcj8t
Thanks
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Ash
 
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 6:06 am

As i understand, the negative comments had started to outweigh the positives, and feeling he was under too much pressure he decided to withdraw from modding completely.

Such a shame.
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Wanda Maximoff
 
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 7:12 am

There has been some... consternation over his mod by other modders on Nexus. His leaving is a mixed blessing. I shall leave it at that.
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Ashley Clifft
 
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 7:07 pm

I got myself such people that likes to get a mod down with bad comments. Such trolls. One shall not surrender to them... I liked the mod though despite it's problems (none as far as I know).
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elliot mudd
 
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 5:09 pm

Im running wis 4.5 no problem. No headless npc those sort of bugs. I say those peoples didnt read main description patiently enough. And load order if you using other spawn mod. Playing with 57 mods no problem. Alongside more travelers, pride of skyrik, ocs and dd.
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Trista Jim
 
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 3:14 pm

What is this?
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Chris Guerin
 
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 10:21 pm

I can understain Wars in Skyrim author, i have got same problem with my mod "Skyrim Live" ,i have received insults against my self and too much crying children : your mod killed blacksmith's wife, she was my sweetheart ; with your mod i have crashes with ultra hight setting on my commodore 64 ; your mod is not realistic cause your npc don't have a wife ,a house, don't eat and they don't need a WC; and similar phrases.
Many times i wanted to pick up my mod , and i don't know if i will do it in future , and Wars in Skyrim author has my understanding.
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Rob Davidson
 
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 8:43 pm

I can understain Wars in Skyrim author, i have got same problem with my mod "Skyrim Live" ,i have received insults against my self and too much crying children : your mod killed blacksmith's wife, she was my sweetheart ; with your mod i have crashes with ultra hight setting on my commodore 64 ; your mod is not realistic cause your npc don't have a wife ,a house, don't eat and they don't need a WC; and similar phrases.
Many times i wanted to pick up my mod , and i don't know if i will do it in future , and Wars in Skyrim author has my understanding.

The "problem" is that a lot of players simply don't understand that adding a mod to a game is their own risk. I run 70 odd mods now including Skyrim Live, I also had Wars in Skyrim a time but I removed it as I didn't like the way the mod was turning out and I had other mods I rather would use that potentially confilcted with it. It's part of modding the game that really rests on the player's shoulders. We are free to choose which mods to use and which not to use, but some ungrateful retards don't understand that. For them, it is perfectly ok to attack and harass the creator of a mod if they feel the mod isn't exactly like they imagined. Internet is a good thing, but it also brings out the worst in humans, as long as we can stay anonymous some people thinks it is perfectly fine to act like a immature idiot.

When it comes to Skyrim Live I really hope you keep it up as it is one of the mods I rather quite enjoy these days. My gaming time is limited due to well after 340 hours the game lost it freshness, but I still fire it up and play every now and then and Skyrim Live really does add a feeling that the game is alive. Started an Orc warrior the other day and it was fun to see imperial soldiers fighting it out with forsworn, bandits attacking settlements etc. So don't loose faith, I'm certain there is a bunch of people who appreciates the mod you made and that you hopefully will continue to improve.
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Iain Lamb
 
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 11:01 pm

My two cents on this is this.

A little before alex left he posted that there was no longer a WISIV Team. and that he was running solo.

I htink that coupled with the fact he had over 30 esps and the mod was becomming increasingly buggy (to those that didnt notice this or get this that didnt discout that More and more people have been getting bugs after Heros and villans was implemented.) I still use parts of WIS but I weened myself off it. I also still have WISIV 4.4 in my files as that was the last version I updated to.

So im thinking.

Complaints + losing his team + over 30 esps to upkeep + the increasing bugs kinda brought alex to the point he just couldnt continue on it.

Modding isnt for us players its for the Modders they choose to share their tweaks they use in their game with us. when their tweaks start becomming more of a chore than a fun thing then they usually end up leaving.
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Phoenix Draven
 
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 1:05 am

I think it all started to fall apart when he introduced the heroes/villains thingy. It was rather fine before that.
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Rhi Edwards
 
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 1:12 am

What was this mod?
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rae.x
 
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 1:16 am

Wars In Skyrim was a Difficulty and Spawning enhancing mod For everythign outside of Dragons. It started out as more of jsut focused on Spawning and difficulty enchancing and then broke off into different specifications of everything from.

AI spells

Complete Cell Respawn time.

Falling and arrow damage.

and Many Many other things.

Later on there was introduced a Heros and villans system that added some stronger NPCs called Heros and villans.

these strong npcs would travel the land doing good or bad and were insanely hard to kill without a finely tuned character but this system was riddled with bugs. (the most glaring was all of Riverwood attacking you after a hero killed a chicken)

there was also a new part introduced called leveled world which gave you leveld list spawns of upwards of 30 times yoru level. (lvl 30 at lvl 1 lvl 60 at lvl 2 so on and so forth)
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Harry Hearing
 
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 9:16 pm

I can understain Wars in Skyrim author, i have got same problem with my mod "Skyrim Live" ,i have received insults against my self and too much crying children : your mod killed blacksmith's wife, she was my sweetheart ; with your mod i have crashes with ultra hight setting on my commodore 64 ; your mod is not realistic cause your npc don't have a wife ,a house, don't eat and they don't need a WC; and similar phrases.
Many times i wanted to pick up my mod , and i don't know if i will do it in future , and Wars in Skyrim author has my understanding.

I am not a modder but I do love to use other people's work. I was in the market for a something that added more life to the world and I found WIS and downloaded it. Then the next day it was gone. Through this post I discovered your work and I like what it does. Skyrim is a dangerous place and people get hurt. Bottom line, thanks for your time and work on this mod and I do hope you continue with this project. It was amazing the first time I came across an Imperial/Stormcloak battle. WOW...

thanks again.
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Gemma Flanagan
 
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 2:58 pm

Its a shame I was looking forward to this.
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SamanthaLove
 
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 2:47 pm

The earlier implementations at least caused severe compatibility problems with spawn lists. The way spawns were modified was "dirty" as far as most modders are concerned and created compatibility issues with any other mods that were added at the time. As far as the more recent versions.. I stopped using it before Heroes and villains, so I can't speak as to whether those problems were fixed.. The modder was not receptive to any kind of criticism or advice whatsoever. I think that the loss of this is a mixed bag. Sad to lose a person with the ability to create such a mod.
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 1:10 am

... with your mod i have crashes with ultra hight setting on my commodore 64 ....

literally laughed out loud
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Laura
 
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 9:24 pm

I never played his mod, too bad I was looking forward of using and seeing updates. I guess he's another modder who's selfishness got the best of him. If I was bothered by some of the users of my mod and tired of the constant updates and whatnot I would just say that I'm no longer supporting this mod and if anyone wants to contribute I'll give them permission to do what they like just as long you give me credit.

A modder by the name of @isoku, the creator of the "water" mod did just that.
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Emily Rose
 
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 3:25 pm

I never played his mod, too bad I was looking forward of using and seeing updates. I guess he's another modder who's selfishness got the best of him. If I was bothered by some of the users of my mod and tired of the constant updates and whatnot I would just say that I'm no longer supporting this mod and if anyone wants to contribute I give them permission to do what they like just as long you give me credit.

A modder by the name of @isoku, the creator of the "water" mod did just that.
Eh. I find the idea of a selfish modder to be a joke. The fact that he made something people like is cool. The fact that he released it for people to enjoy is above and beyond. Just because he no longer wants to share what is his to do with as he pleases doesn't make him selfish. Particularly if people have been harassing him over the progress of his project. to many mod users these days are under the impression that modders are there to serve them. I don't buy it.
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Johnny
 
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 4:49 pm

Eh. I find the idea of a selfish modder to be a joke. The fact that he made something people like is cool. The fact that he released it for people to enjoy is above and beyond. Just because he no longer wants to share what is his to do with as he pleases doesn't make him selfish. Particularly if people have been harassing him over the progress of his project. to many mod users these days are under the impression that modders are there to serve them. I don't buy it.

If I were to leave forever and knowing that there are people who really enjoyed my mod I would give a blind eye to the rest. I would share my work. Users aren't entitle to anything of course, the question is, has the modder gotten a good look in the mirror?
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