its not fo3 nv its just fo:nv. nv has nothing to do with 3 if it wasn't called nv it would have just been fo4

Selling wares to a town as a lone adventuring Khajitt isn't the same as wanting to move in with your caravan opening market stalls so you can sell crack to the local town populace.



Look we will just have to agree to disagree here because to me, roleplaying is 90% imagination 10% game. I can live as a hermit in the woods, hunting the local deer for food, praying on bandits and other travelers I see, dungeon diving for good gear, and never talk to a npc. I am still roleplaying in every aspect of the word and as a hermit I never once have to talk to a NPC to fulfill that sense of RP. It seems how ever you do.

But what I am trying to tell you is that while I agree that conversations in this game are subpar, they do still exist. I can play as a knight errant who goes from hold to hold doing quest for the Jarl's and become hero of the land. That is roleplaying that involves interactions with NPC's and because the conversations are subpar, doesn't mean my experience is 100% ruined, because there is more to the game then just conversations and recognition.

Ill say it one last time, roleplaying is about living your characters day to day life, not about playing a triple A game with a bunch of rules. Until you can fully immerse yourself into the role that it feels like you are living in this world from day to day, you are doing it wrong.


Your problem is the lack of conversations and recognition, something that they removed BTW because in Oblivion everyone complained how unrealistic it was that everyone knew instantly who you were. So now you are a nobody which is what people asked with Oblivion, and Bethesda gets flak for that decision. It is a case of, can't win if you do, can't win if you don't. I am sorry that the conversations of the game make it so you can't roleplay, but I will say again, there is so much more to the game and if that is all you focus on, then you are surly missing out because I've had more people agree with me on this thread then you. So clearly I am not the only one who roleplays this game despite the subpar conversations.

I have realistic expectations and I know that by playing Khajiit I have to be ready to face some inconsistencies or silly situations. But they can be easily circumvented by console, CK or even good old imagination

Quests cannot ruin anything because you don't have to do them. Or you can tweak them to not interfere with your play style. That's how I got fourth member of my party, Shavari. I thought that roleplaywise I made that kind of situation, in which her jumping ship and joining us was very plausible (Raksha, Jzargo an Khario got her cornered in some back alley in Riften). So I just fired CK, removed her from offending quest, did some console magic and now I have her as another teammate

Recently I did something similar with Tsavani, but now I made proper miniquest for it. I'll let Raksha say what happened:

My point is that in Skyrim I am my own game master. I can customize it to my liking. And because of this I actually like it when most of NPCs do not have a lot of depth. I can add depth to them myself.

Every time I play through Skyrim, my experience is different each time.

What Skyrim has done better than any other video game?

Made people believe it is a great game. The world is open and beautiful. It's nice to explore and roam around in, but the evronment alone doesn't make thegame great.

Game-wise... EXPLORATION = BROKEN QUESTS. It's a shame this is the truth.

You can play the game or explore the world, but you cannot do both.

Also, and this is a critisism and not a whine... it doesn't matter what race you play or what skills you choose or what kind of character you roam with, mage or warrior, the quests are all the same, the story remains the same, your choices are always the same from playthrough to playthrough. The choices are pretty much this or that. The questlines do not branch much at all changing your experience from playthrough to playthrough.

Role play choices are very limited, you have to "become" certain things to do some quests. The whole questline depends on it. Companions, Nightingales, etc. There is no alternate way to do those dungeons or get that loot or those words from walls. You cannot enter Sarthal without joining a non-warrior guild, so the whole Gulder questline is off limits to you which is a questline that need not involve the guild you have to join to do it.

So while I think Skyrim is a beautiful world; I also think it is not a great game.

The little things they do to me are the best compared to any other games, I mean, they have a frickin' place where people swim and hang out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh8cjGEKOU4

The "illusion of being alive?" Seriously? It's a video game. Every video game creates the illusion of life. In 50 years when video games become virtual reality, it will still be an illusion created by 1's and 0's.

You people are hilarious... Dissatisfied because you woke up one day and realised the games you are playing are just a series of commands in code. GTFOH

Best open world perhaps.
Best game design and attention to detail belongs to UBI for the assassins creed games imo.

If TES could have storylines of Bioware's level, along with uber graphics..

My feelings exactly!

I will agree with the OP. But I will one up it. Yes the attention to detail is awsome, the aspect that really excites me is the graphics are real world based and not cartoony based. You walk into an inn and you look at the walls or the fire flickering in the middle of the room and you graphically feel like you "could" walk into the inn and really "see" the realism. Its just totally awsome!!!