What's The Thalmors' Stance On The Manmer? : V - Skyrim

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:02 pm

They did include the Khajiit in their dominion so I guess. I have no idea what they think of Argonians though, seeing as the Khajiit is supposed to be elves Azura(or at least I think it was Azura) had a bit of fun with.

oooh, interesting.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:15 am

I wonder...I know the Thalmor practically hate everyone, but do they see the Beast Races as better then man? In general preference of course.

An interesting thought. They are allied with Elsweyr so it could be possible, did not think of that before.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:12 am

oooh, interesting.

I don't remember very much, so forgive any loremistakes, but as I have understood it the gods(not sure which) made the elves, but Azura tricked or persuaded a group of them to follow her and made them feline to add to their beauty. Of course this can just be my bad memory and be complete hogwash.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:36 am

I wonder...I know the Thalmor practically hate everyone, but do they see the Beast Races as better then man? In general preference of course.

Interesting question.

If I was to ally myself with the Khajiit I'd do it so I could recruit there most powerfull soldiers and exploit the natives and drain the land of natural resources like the English did in the early 1600 and 1700 to bolster my army and empire and make it stronger.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:34 pm

Since the Thalmor sent agents against me without provocation .... doesnt matter what they think. They re nuts and nazi anyway.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:10 am

The Bretons were againt the Thalmor in the Great War so I guess they hate each other.
Who cares though, Thalmor svck :down:

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:42 am

I wonder...I know the Thalmor practically hate everyone, but do they see the Beast Races as better then man? In general preference of course.

Another thought.I seem to recall the Khajit may be one of the towers the binds the time god.The Thalmor plan involves unbinding the time god so be careful who you let scratch your belly kitten

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:22 pm

Ah, the thalmor just want to populate the entire universe with nothing but yellow altmer >.>

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:15 am

The Bretons were againt the Thalmor in the Great War so I guess they hate each other.
Who cares though, Thalmor svck :down:

Just because Bretons' have human ancestory doesn't mean they hate the Thalmor.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:12 am

Ah, the thalmor just want to populate the entire universe with nothing but yellow altmer >.>

No they want to destroy the universe so that they may be immortal again.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:20 am

Just because Bretons' have human ancestory doesn't mean they hate the Thalmor.

Maybe but since the armies of High Rock fought against them and that the Thalmor hate anything Human related, the Bretons might share the same opinion like the nords and redguards about the Thalmor.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:34 pm

Maybe but since the armies of High Rock fought against them and that the Thalmor hate anything Human related, the Bretons might share the same opinion like the nords and redguards about the Thalmor.

Just because the Bretons helped the Empire in the great war doesn't mean that they don't support the Thalmor.

Remember the Thalmor are pro Mer (for now) and the bretons are half mer and half man.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:08 pm

Just because the Bretons helped the Empire in the great war doesn't mean that they don't support the Thalmor.

Remember the Thalmor are pro Mer (for now) and the bretons are half mer and half man.

Very true. I see where you are coming from but I believe that most Bretons will be against them. I would assume though that a few nobles will be on the side of the Thalmor secretly but most(IMO) will be against them.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:30 am

Very true. I see where you are coming from but I believe that most Bretons will be against them. I would assume though that a few nobles will be on the side of the Thalmor secretly but most(IMO) will be against them.

Yes also true.

But the Thalmor are very powerful even more powerful then the Empire, if the Thalmor offered a peace treaty to the nobles of High Rock those that don't want Thalmor rule can't refuse and those that do will most likely jump on the opertunity so they can't really say no unless they want a civil war.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:24 am

Yes also true.

But the Thalmor are very powerful even more powerful then the Empire, if the Thalmor offered a peace treaty to the nobles of High Rock those that don't want Thalmor rule can't refuse and those that do will most likely jump on the opertunity so they can't really say no unless they want a civil war.

If that were to happen, I could see a civil war that will lead to a new Great War. It would create a divsion on the population with most on the side Empire loyal side. Basically the war wuld go though most of Tamerial.

Who knows though. That might be the DLC for Skyrim, how to stop a civil war from happening in High Rock.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:02 am

If that were to happen, I could see a civil war that will lead to a new Great War. It would create a divsion on the population with most on the side Empire loyal side. Basically the war wuld go though most of Tamerial.

Who knows though. That might be the DLC for Skyrim, how to stop a civil war from happening in High Rock.

Very good idea, and that DLC could lead up to the destruction of the Thalmor.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:32 am

Very good idea, and that DLC could lead up to the destruction of the Thalmor.

Or at least weaken them that a new White-Gold Concordat was created banning the Thalmor from the Empire.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:53 am

Yes also true.

But the Thalmor are very powerful even more powerful then the Empire, if the Thalmor offered a peace treaty to the nobles of High Rock those that don't want Thalmor rule can't refuse and those that do will most likely jump on the opertunity so they can't really say no unless they want a civil war.

Actually we do not know the Thalmors power. We know they can act openly due ot the White-Gold Concordat, but I believe they might not be as powerfull as they want you to believe. The Thalmor wouldn't care about loss of soldiers as long as they reqched their goals since they plan to destroy the world anyway, and in the MQ you get a hint that they need to weaken the Empire.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:23 am

The Thalmor plan to eradicate humanity is not some small-minded bigotry, it's a part of a plan to unmake the world. It's not that they hate the beast races any less or any more than humanity, it's just that humans are fragments of Lorkhan, while beast races are not. As such, eliminating the beast races isn't necessary.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:08 pm

Actually we do not know the Thalmors power. We know they can act openly due ot the White-Gold Concordat, but I believe they might not be as powerfull as they want you to believe. The Thalmor wouldn't care about loss of soldiers as long as they reqched their goals since they plan to destroy the world anyway, and in the MQ you get a hint that they need to weaken the Empire.

Well of course the Thalmor would need to weaken the Empire, after all the Empire is still a super power but the Empire is weak enough especialy since they're throwing legions upon legions of soldiers at skyrim and bolstering other provinces they're basicly sealing their own fate.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:55 am

The Thalmor plan to eradicate humanity is not some small-minded bigotry, it's a part of a plan to unmake the world. It's not that they hate the beast races any less or any more than humanity, it's just that humans are fragments of Lorkhan, while beast races are not. As such, eliminating the beast races isn't necessary.

If they succeed on killing every human, they will attack the beast races next. It's all part of the plan to make themseleves immortal.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:49 am

The Thalmor are no fools. Bretons with their strong magic resistance are born Mage killers. They will claim kindership with the Bretons until they have no further need of the mongrels.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:29 pm

The Thalmor are no fools. Bretons with their strong magic resistance are born Mage killers. They will claim kindership with the Bretons until they have no further need of the mongrels.

Only problem is taht most would not support the Thalmor. The bretons fought against them and to be honest, the Bretons should be a major threat to them since they are magic abilities just as good as the High Elves.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:17 am

Only problem is taht most would not support the Thalmor. The bretons fought against them and to be honest, the Bretons should be a major threat to them since they are magic abilities just as good as the High Elves.

Yes also true.

But the Thalmor are very powerful even more powerful then the Empire, if the Thalmor offered a peace treaty to the nobles of High Rock those that don't want Thalmor rule can't refuse and those that do will most likely jump on the opertunity so they can't really say no unless they want a civil war.

Just because the Bretons helped the Empire in the great war doesn't mean that they don't support the Thalmor.

Remember the Thalmor are pro Mer (for now) and the bretons are half mer and half man.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:46 am

Well of course the Thalmor would need to weaken the Empire, after all the Empire is still a super power but the Empire is weak enough especialy since they're throwing legions upon legions of soldiers at skyrim and bolstering other provinces they're basicly sealing their own fate.

Maybe. I hope that is answered in a DLC or in TES:VI.

I believe the Thalmor are overrated. They took on an Empire that had been crumbling for over 100 years, lost 3 provinces to the Talmor and 1 that simply secceded. The Empire was unprepared for war and was, as I have understood it, at an all-time low in military power, but still they where fought to a standstill.
An Empire ready for war, looking at history, will almost be garantied victory, not to mention that elves do not reproduce nearly as fast as humans.