One of the parts I loved most about fallout 3 was the 50's side of it. That is a very interesting and un-used time period that I liked.

New Vegas seems to have gone to a wild west theme.

I know its out in the dessert, but I think the wild west is overused and its not as funny or charming as the 50's.



What do you guys think?

The 50's isn't the main idea of overall Fallout series, if that what ya wondering.

The 50's atmosphere was lacking a tad. (In my own opinion)

New Vegas.

EDIT: To clarify, I don't mean the game, I mean the town within the game.

Oh yea I know.... im just saying I found it kind of cooler than the wild west

Meh, it's kind of still there. But...

What made it more "50s" in F:3? Or do you mean it was just overshadowed by the wild west theme? I'm not saying you're wrong, I don't really know my 50s culture/history/style? that much (particularly in America).

To be fair, the Western theme was really hugely popular in the '50s (cowboys and such), so a classic Western theme is very much still a '50s theme. That said, New Vegas (the town) gives off a really strong 1950's vibe, and let's not forget about the signs and posters everywhere and the clothing. How about The Kings?

That said, I thought the 1950's theme in FO3 was way overdone. It was never that garish and in-your-face in previous games in the series. I liked it, but I thought it was way too much.

IMO the '50s theme is supposed to be present almost completely in representations of the past...of the world that's now dead and gone. That's why the idealistic style of that time period is a good choice: it's such a sharp contrast with the ugly, harsh world that exists after the war. It's not still the 1950's in the game. The people are just seeing the pre-war world that way because that's what they see in posters, signs, pictures, magazines, etc. that survived the war. That world has been dead and gone for a looong time. Only a handful of ghouls even remember that world...everybody else was born many, many years after it was destroyed.

The 50s theme is still there, but from MY personal interpretation, in the Fallout Universe, Vegas was basically how it was in our 1950s, IE the only 'modern' thing around apart from a hotel (NoVac) or on the main highways. Then there were still Western Frontier style towns around, slowly being phased out, thats how it would likely be with the Fallouts version of the Mojave had the bombs not fallen.

New Vegas does kinda give off a 50s-60s vibe, IMO. The music is, I think, all from that time period. Heck, a lot of quests are named after songs from the time periods as well. The signs and posters are very much 50s-60s-esque.

You know, the more I think about it I'm not sure if New Vegas doesn't give off a stronger '50s vibe than FO3 does. Not that I'm saying I think that's a good thing, mind you, but I certainly don't see how it's any less of a '50s theme than FO3 was. Maybe we're confusing geography and sub-themes with time periods?

Yeah its still very much in tune with the 50’s post-war, cold-war era vibe, they just don’t play as much 50’s rock n roll on the radio.

The 50’s always gets remembered for doo-wop and greasers, but that was really just a small part of that time period.

Someday people will think that everyone in the 90’s was grunge.

i think that the idea is retro-futuristic so it wont be like 50's. instead it will be like everything is a little back in time but with energy weapons and robots.

I was hoping boy bands like N Sync or Backstreet Boys, to be honest.


Better term would be http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Divergence. Basically, 50s SCIENCE! future in the mind of how the people of the 50s view the future.

But in a way, it does not really gave off that much of a 50s sense, which I find it a good thing in a sense.

I take it you haven't played any other fallout game.

Erm...I've played every Fallout game at the time they were released and I'd agree with Qawsed Asap's comment. :shrug: The series didn't kick you in the teeth with the '50s stuff until Fallout 3. It was there, but it wasn't as much of an artistic focal point as it is in the past two games.

That's it.. I seriously miss that 50's feel. I know the Western theme was really popular but it just doesn't feel the same. I really did prefer that city feel though from FO3. NV just seems really empty and dry imo.

Well, it's a desert. Again, the themes in NV are '50s themes every bit as much as the ones in FO3 were, so... :shrug: Why is a Western '50s theme any less of a '50s theme than an Eastern one? Again, I think we're mistaking geography and sub-themes for time periods.

Fallout 1 basically shown me the ruin of California and how basically everybody trying to survive.

Fallout 2 gave the feeling of the "rebirth" of civilization and the return of primitive culture.

There wasn't really anything 50s about the first two game other than the 50s SCIENCE! technology.

On the other-hand, Fallout 3 shown a great deal of 50s.

True, but I found Fallout 3 perfect artistically, if you spend time wandering down a ruined highway, when you see a sign depicting a family perfectly and saying "Wednesday nights are family night" for me it just hits me in the hurt and makes me go "-sigh- I wish I could have lived before the war"

That's an example of exactly how the '50s theme should be used. The problem is that Bethesda didn't stop there, and had people living in suburban-looking homes in '50s garb acting like they had any idea of what the pre-war world was like. IMO the '50s theme should be used for contrast, not to depict the post-war world. They got some of it right in FO3, but they went too far, IMO.

I personally think the post-war world should be all Mad Max, filth, danger, and atrocity, so that when you run across references to the pre-war world you think, "Wow, the world must have been perfect before the war, huh (even though it wasn't)? Look at what we've become. Look at what we've lost." It's the contrast that makes it effective. I think they ruined it by shoving it down your throat at every turn. Then again, I've always favored subtlety in fiction over heavy-handed "hey guys look at our neato literary device lawl!"

Sidebar: am I the only one who wishes that "Viva Las Vegas" was included in the radio broadcasts? I mean, there's an old Elvis impersonator school, so why not just one of his songs?

Ever play the first Fallout?

Besides the song in the into, the occasional 50's looking car, and some things like the Mr. Handy robots, there was very little "50's" vibe.

Uh, I don't think they play ANY 50's rock n roll on the radio in Fallout 3. All the music in Fallout 3 was 30s and 40s music.

On that point, I much prefer the Radio in New Vegas because it doesn't stick to such a limited timeframe. It even reaches into the 60s with a few of the songs.

I bet copyright issue. I would imagine how much money is needed to be spent just for a song by Elvis Presley. Loophole were made to make obvious that the Kings are the references to the King of Rock and Roll but not to point on tell that it was Elvis.