Just started a fresh new game. Right now, I have absolutely no desire to do any quests, side quests, or anything. I am just having fun hunting elk, and foxes, and bunnies to raise my "bunnies slaughtered" count.

(Try not to make fun of me)

Which quests does everyone strongly recommend doing as soon as possible, as these quests are known to bug out simply by time passing?

Please mention the quests, and the reasons why (specifically).

Blood on the ice.
There are numerous reasons it can become bugged beyond repair, one of them is finishing the civil war questline.
I only got it to start at all on my third character, when I did it right away.

Also be sure to find the skooma dealer in Riften before you clear out the cave associated with the quest, or youll never be able to get the Riften house.

Similarly, do not do the Forsworn conspiracy before you have bought the Markath house.

Never had any bug out by time passing. The only one i can think of that is buggy if not done when you first stumble across it is Blood on the Ice or whatever it's called. But that's more to do with approaching a house rather than a time issue.

one thing I can tell you is save the civil war for last

had lots of problems after that quest

But I don't understand. HOW does TIME ALONE cause blood on the ice to become bugged?

How can time affect the quest if the quest has not even been triggered yet?

I thought all I needed to do was stay away from that quest until I was ready to do it, then just make sure to save before triggering it.

If bugged, reload the save.

What zone is this quest located in? How many other quests will I trigger by entering that zone?

That's the million dollar question, isn't it.

It would seem that you should do the most bug prone quests first. If you care about story do the game in a linear fasion. Do what you want, be what you want my ass.

In reality this game and others of it's type aren't really better at doing this more than an JRPG they just make breaking the game/quests possible.

Anyway If you want to know what quests break for most people just head over to the Bugs and [censored] forum. Because... Wait a minute I want to make this very clear; Bethesda svcks at testing and knows that true fans will do it for them for free. Big game blaa bla I don't care finish your game before you release it. Peace to PS3 owners, that's BS.

But really, if everyone buys breezehome and it's busted for EVERYONE, can you really tell me that this game was finished? Oh and it doesn't even work on a PS3.

Still here [censored], man up.

I have no idea, all I know is I have been unable to start the quest at all unless I do it right away.
Once I even broke into Hjerim hoping to start the quest like that.
There were all these odd things in the house called that I could not interact with.
When I succesfully did the quest that text wasnt there and I could investigate the spots to further the quest.

This quest is seriously bugged up.

Blood and Ice as was previously mentioned will be permanently bugged if you do the civil war quest line. Also, something is bugged if you do the introduction quests to both the Legion and Stormcloaks (I think). Someone posted that up in the support boards iirc.

Alright. Someone please give me exact instructions. I know I have to enter, leave then return and on the 4th entrance to windhelm I stand near the tombstone, etc.

But I am very low level. Are there any quest rewards that are leveled?

I read something stating that the only quest reward is the necromancer's amulet. But don't you have to lose or sell an equally valuable amulet to get the necro amulet?


Also, is there a way to get to windhelm via carriage? I don't want to walk there, because I am trying to avoid as many zones as I can for now.

Also, what other quests are related to windhelm? Are there any events triggered just by entering the zone that windhelm is in (what zone is that anyway?)?

Anything else that can bug out in windhelm/windhelm's zone?

Basically it's like this;

If you care about story do the game in a linear fashion, use the strategy guide and/or UESPWIKI.

If you wanna play the game your way, just do it but do not get butt hurt when a quest breaks.

I used to be like something something then I took an arrow to the knee.

It worked for me like this:
I took a carriage to Windhelm and asked around until I heared a rumour about the murders.
I then fast travelled to Whiterun and back to Windhelm until I had arrived in Windhelm three times, then back to Whiterun.
You must travel to and from within city walls I think, or at least thats how I did it.
The fourth time I travelled to Windhelm stables and made sure it was night when I entered.
The quest activated then and I followed the guide on the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Blood_on_the_Ice as to in what order I did things and what to avoid.

Yes, you can hire a wagon to Windhelm.

I think I can handle the tiptoe around and get it to trigger.

I just really need some answers about the quest rewards, and whether they are leveled or not.

I also want to know about Hjerim the house however it is spelled.

I want to have that as my first house since I will already be doing blood on the ice, BUT.......

I heard you have to do something for either the stormcloaks or imperials.

Which opens up a whole other can of questions. If I choose to do the errand to get the house for the stormcloaks for example, will I be STUCK doing the stormcloak questline for the rest of the game??

I bugged the Blood on the Ice quest by accidentally killing the guard in the graveyard who starts the quest. It must have been something to do with the escape or maybe an assignment ... but that guard got in the way. And as a reminder, his corpse has been there ever since.

Blood on the Ice is buggy in general. People directed me to talk to the "busy-body" lady about the murders. So I did. Little did I know that meant part of the quest gets completely skipped, but the quests acts like you talked to the museum guy anyhow (and if you go to talk to him after, he has nothing to say). There are lots of other bugs with it I've heard about too, though at least what I encountered didn't break it.

Actually the quest isn't as bugged as it is poorly designed, UESPwiki.

I am still hoping to get my questions answered from above if anyone knows.

Btw, the wiki site is: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki

As buggy as these games can be, it isn't a bad idea to look everything up, although spoilers are likely.

Blood on the Ice: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Blood_on_the_Ice

To be honest i didn`t see anything break and have no idea if anything broke. But I don`t care because the game plays on fine.

The thing I would warn is if you want to initiate marriage make sure you do not have a Follower with you or it will break that marriage big time and the people around you. That`s all I`ve seen go wrong quest-wise.

Please do not post Spoilers in General.

People come to General to learn about the game without learning about what happens in the game. If they want to know about what happens, that is what the Cheats, Hints and Spoilers section is for.

Do not use quest details or location specific details related to quests/puzzles/NPCs in your posts in this section. General is for discussing gameplay and mechanics and general topics about the the game including but not limited to races, items and their use, magic, enchanting, skills, character builds, criticism, praise, funny random things that happen, places from an esthetic standpoint and and other general topics.

Use the Spoilers Section if you have to post quest details or other spoilers or a thread about the same. I will move this now.

I think this needs to be clarified a little bit. If you progress too far in the civil war story line for the Imperials, the Forsworn Conspiracy quest severely glitches out. You don't want to put that quest off either. After getting the note from Eltyrs, meet with him as soon as possible. Otherwise, there is a chance he will already be dead and you miss the entire quest, jumping straight to the Cidhna Mine. This can also happen in the middle of the quest and screw you out of finishing it entirely. I'd advise to do everything up until the step to 'Find Evidence about Nepos' and stop there because meeting with Nepos triggers Eltrys death and the start of issues with the guards.

THEN work on becoming Thane of Markarth and purchase the house before continuing Forsworn Conspiracy. This quest line has almost as many glitches as Blood on the Ice.

Well I guess im in the minority when I do the civil war quest before getting the Hjerm house. I get that house in 5 minutes when I do the civil war both stormcloaks and imperials. Ive gotten it to work once prior to doing civil war and it took me two hours to do it properly with the exact same bugs as my 5 minute method: bugged amulet in inventory and my housecarl doesnt like to show up when I become thane. Other then those two things it goes smoothly.

Good thing to know about the forsworn quest I may try it out. Ive had more issues when delaying that one, and I normally delay it as long as I can. If you do the quest correctly though I normally don't have any bounty issues after its completed.

As with most, you can affect something way earlier that bugs the quest. I.e. - I had a Briar Heart in my inventory long before getting the Repairing the Phial quest. Since it was in my inventory, it got flagged as a quest item, but the quest didn't recognize it since I didn't loot it after getting the quest.

Basically, I've learnt to not enter a dungeon/keep/tomb/etc or loot damn near anything until I get a quest for it.

I really hope to not get nailed to the cross in this thread for asking so many detailed questions, when I could pour over the wiki pages and google.

I am just trying to hit the bullseye, here, by asking my specific questions, which are sometimes several subquestions in one, and get solid answers, tailored to my information need.

I don't know about you all, but if it were ME who has been the victim of more error than none in a tedious trial and error process, ending up with bugged quests, then I would want to impart the knowledge I've accrued to other people, namely, me so that they will not have the same negative experiences.

I have gotten visciously attacked in this thread by SourPatchRash, and I want everyone reading this to understand my sincere premeditated motives for asking these questions before attacking me, likewise.