No, gold is nearly useless and no good currency in post-apocalypse. Those would point out most civilization utilize gold fail to realize shell was used in neo-stone age for hundreds (if not thousands) of years; just like modern currency, the transition is rather slow.

Andiaus: Remember the golden rule in life, 'Don't fix what isn't broken?'

Gold was used in the fallout universe until the BoS destroyed the NCR's Gold Reserves.

So its extremely valuable now.

Gold has value as a currency because it doesn't rust or corrode like other metals. It lasts a good long while so you don't need to worry about your money going bad if you save it to long.

I can't remember the specific uses of gold (Apart from the one Lord Vukodlak listed above), but gold has ALOT of uses. And the world isnt a desolate 'survived the war, now what?' phase anymore, now it is in the 'lets rebuild and replace ourselves into that world of ease we had'.

Gold has alot of uses, ranging from simple status symbolism to medical and obviously industrial smelting or whatever you want to call it. But the point is, a bullet has more use in the field, if you want to barter with bullets more power to you, but I would much rather invest in living than that pre-war clothes in the window. Gold however, has uses for comfort or desires, and that is what all economic currencies are, they are not of value because a government says 'because we said so', but because it has a value in trade and use, it can be your sort of 'bargaining tool' to make your currency work. Now, don't ask me how it works, because I have no in-depth knowledge of how backed currencies work.

O really, do you need me to provide you with a wiki link?

Boradman: Gold was a standard currency, just like clean water that backs the caps; in fact clean water is now what backed the NCR dollar. Anyways, aside from tech application and luxury, gold is useless to the post apocalypse population...it is just heavier and less likely to counterfeit NCR dollar.

Gold is not useless.

It is still valuable.

Does anyone know if the Enclave ever had their own currency? I would think they would have some form of payment..

The Enclave? They would'nt have money that would be valuble outside of their group, But probably Pre-War Coins/Dollars seeing that Sergeant Dornan says "I am not a sir, I WORK FOR A LIVING, MOOOORAN!"

Why would they need their own money? Enclave a soldiers and they do what they are told. I would guess if they did get paid it would be in local or pre-war money,

Sure, if you feel the information is legitamate.

I know you are replying to Borad, but I want to say, you seem to think 'post apocalypse' is automatically 'stone age'. People like the NCR or the FotA would likely have the resources to use gold for its many nonluxury uses.

Soldiers are paid just so you know.

Just saying, Also at what Martyr said, Post-Apocolypse does not mean Stone age.

So I agree with you.

I know they get paid but do Enclave Soldiers get paid? We don't even know if they recruit. Or are they like the BoS and only let blood family join? Another payment option could be they get to keep what they loot like pirates. Or like Star Trek they no longer see the need for money.

Still like we have both said Pre-war money or local seem the most logical :foodndrink:

Well, The Enclave most likely do get paid, Seeing as the example I put forward a few posts back.

I mean, We don't know how many Enclave people there were/are.

So if there were many, An Economy would make a bit of sense since they are/were trying to rebuild society.

I think Enclave personnel are likely paid in points/credits similiar to how the Vaults pay systems are set up.

Rebuild a Pre-war like American society built from the ashes of a global genocide but a society none the less.

I admit the Enclave had the most [censored] up idea of rebuilding society, But at least they did the most [censored] up way possible, For the right reasons..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_money, while some system is better than others, it doesn't change the fact that government issue currency is "worth it because we say so".

Maybe I didn't make it clear: yes NCR, FotA, BoS and like merchants like Van Graffs would have non-luxury use of gold; however I doubt they would need large quantity of it. No to mention it is nearly as available as caps/water, thus it isn't idea as standard or tender currency.

I think both re-inhibited wasteland and stone age are common in one thing: emerging civilization. IMO is ridiculous to assume humanity would resume the pre-war mind set because the environment is completely different.

Revive the bottle caps.

My only point in defending the "bullets currency" is that it would be useful as a means for groups without an established representative currency to trade. That was all I was saying. The whole argument about their legitimacy came from someone stating over and over, quite fervently I might add, that bullets cannot under any circumstances be a form of currency to anyone.

Would I suggest it as a replacement currency for the NCR? No. A replacement for the US dollar? No. The Legion Denarius/Aureus (silver/gold coins)? No.

However for an independent society with it's own economy? It would be entirely possible and implementable for them to use bullets as currency. It would add to a game that used the system as well because it would make Guns an expensive skill to invest in and make taking it less attractive relative to the other combat skills (which many people complain that Guns is the most powerful skill set).

It was a good idea... not even my own. So I defended it.

Actually a Legion Denarius is 10 times the worth of a NCR Dollar, and 4 times the worth of a cap.

bottle cap = $2.50 NCR
Denarius = 4 caps

Ammo would not be suitable as money because it is a commodity that is mass-produced. The more ammo produced, the less value each cartridge has. Producers of ammunition would by default be the Central bankers of the nation and would be hurting themselves by producing to capacity. Not to mention they would probably be nationalized...I cannot see the NCR letting the Gun Runners and Van Graffs control thier economy outright by being able to print "money" at will.

And speaking of the NCR's gold reserves....how did the BoS blow them up beyond recovery? Unless the BoS put a nuke in the gold vault and detonated it, it should still be around to be recovered if the NCR wanted to expend the effort.

I can agree with this. They each have their own interesting and reasonable flavor.



I actually think bullets would have been the ideal currency in FO3 - much better than caps anyway. I liked caps in FO1 and their reemergence in FONV makes some sense, but it's kind of aberrant. They're the currency because a group of powerful people in control of water said caps are currency. Without those water merchants, and without a dominant government like the NCR, of which Washington DC had neither, bullets would naturally evolve as a currency.



I appreciate it :foodndrink:

Refers you to Doran's speech about how long it will take to pay back the lost suit of APA with your current pay. "You'll be in this man army for 512 years, as thats how long it will take you to pay back the expensive piece of military hardware!" Or some such.

Good point, 510 years I think was. So they get paid just in what currency we don't know.

I would say it's Pre-war as they are pretty much the pre- war government.