[A Dardzz]

for general discussion? Beause any time a console person post's a question the answer right away is "mod" well that's hard and... well illegal to do on consoles, so why does Bethesda not make General Discussion for Consoles? just asking?

now more to the point, So. The player in Skyrim is Dragonborn... and when playing Oblivion, the blades addressed Martin as dragonborn. so that means that since only a true septim can light the dragon fires, then only the dragonborn can light the fires. So does that mean that the player in skyrim is related to Martin septim, uriel septim and even Tiber Septim himself, (that's Talos if i'm correct) and more over, that now the dragonfires are not lit due to the only dragonborn being in Skyrim? i've never beat Oblivion so i'm not sure how it ends, but i do know that the dragonfires not being lit means that the gates to oblivion can be opened again, causing mass destruction. if so, then how come we have not heard about this?

[BlackaneseB]

It's not illegal.

And in the end of Oblivion

Spoiler

the gates to oblivion are closed forever

And no, the dragonborn is not related to Martin.

[bonita mathews]

There are more specific forums for console issues, meaning bugs. Anything that is an issue of personal taste isn't something that needs to be asked about (of course, complaining is an option), because if you use PC, you know you can mod it, and if you don't, you know you can't.

[Nichola Haynes]

It's not illegal.

And in the end of Oblivion

Spoiler

the gates to oblivion are closed forever

And no, the dragonborn is not related to Martin.

how do you figure dragon born is not related to martin and the septims?

[Farrah Lee]

how do you figure dragon born is not related to martin and the septims?

Spoiler

Martin was the last living Septim. Martin is now dead. Pretty open and shut.

[El Goose]

Being dragonborn means being blessed by Akatosh; it can happen to anyone, not just to the Septims. In fact, the Septims themselves were unrelated to earlier dragonborn emperors such as Reman.

[Ryan Lutz]

Spoiler

Martin was the last living Septim. Martin is now dead. Pretty open and shut.

maybe he had kids?

[Fiori Pra]

why does Bethesda not make General Discussion for Consoles? just asking?

Simply put, pc users also use this forum, not just console users. This forum is open to ALL USERS, not just some.

The mods section would be a place that even console users could come and discuss which mods they use and like...if Microshaft and Sony would allow such a thing, but since that isn't the case, there's no point in discussing that issue any further.

[D IV]

The whole situation with the Septims is more complicated than just Dragonborn. Uriel Septim wasn't Dragonborn, but he was ritually enmeshed in an oversoul stemming from the Dragonborn Tiber Septim, who in turn simply reaffirmed the Covenant made by Alessia and her spiritual son Reman.

Akatosh's intervention at the end of the Oblivion Crisis made the defence of Nirn no longer contingent on the Dragonborn (spiritual, not physical) lineage ruling over Cyrodiil. How and why exactly that happens is unclear because Oblivion's MQ svcks hairy donkey balls.

But just to be clear: Martin is not related to Tiber Septim and Tiber Septim isn't related to Reman and Reman isn't related to Alessia except for the fact that his dad had six with her ghost which was actually just Sancre Tor.

[Scarlet Devil]

Simply put, pc users also use this forum, not just console users. This forum is open to ALL USERS, not just some.

The mods section would be a place that even console users could come and discuss which mods they use and like...if Microshaft and Sony would allow such a thing, but since that isn't the case, there's no point in discussing that issue any further.

I under stand that yes, but it just seems anytime a console user comes up with a cool dlc idea, the most common response is "there's a mod for that"

[mike]

This thread needs more Argonians

[Alex Blacke]

I think the problem is that pc users excuse problems with the game and if console users have a beef with the game then, the forums (a pc majority forums) suggest mods because they are used to having every single problem they have with the game being catered to and fixed by mods

[Nicole Mark]

maybe he had kids?

He failed to mention them, and it would be a fairly crucial thing to forget, given the plotline of Oblivion.

You can create a number of convoluted theories that would make your character in Skyrim a descendant of the Septim line, but you'd just be making stuff up. There's nothing in the established world of the Elder Scrolls that even suggests it.

[Rudi Carter]

And since Dragonborn lineage isn't passed to children, Uriel could have had a bastard child in every port and they wouldn't have been able to do what Martin did.

Notice how Martin was a priest of Akatosh? And a bloody hero? He fit the bill.

[Nitol Ahmed]

If you have an actual question/problem, just say that you're on console. I don't even understand what you would want to discuss in such a forum. General topics (lore, quests, opinions, etc)? PC users will join in anyway. Bugs? There is already a forum for it. Mods? Not gonna happen. There is nothing left to discuss...

[Kieren Thomson]

I under stand that yes, but it just seems anytime a console user comes up with a cool dlc idea, the most common response is "there's a mod for that"

There's a DLC topic just for this purpose: http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1348297-unofficial-dlc-discussion-possible-spoilers-thread-4/page__view__findpost__p__20434836__hl__dlc__fromsearch__1

And you're correct that modding on consoles breaks the EULA, and therefore isn't possible and isn't to be discussed here.

[Pat RiMsey]

maybe he had kids?

can imperials and argonians cross bread? or the cat people? thats the only way since u can be any race in skyrim and be dragonborn.

[N3T4]

any time a console person post's a question the answer right away is "mod"

I've been asking for that for ten years. But for the opposite reason: I play on PC.

I spend a lot of time answering questions on these forums, when I know the answer. And because I play on PC I tend to answer questions with the PC platform in mind. I have spent hours writing up replies to questions over the years, only to discover that the OP was on a console (and didn't bother to say so) and my time was wasted.

Almost as annoying as giving the wrong answer is having to ask which platform an OP is on before giving an answer. And then waiting for the answer before you can reply.

I think Bethesda should put icons under our avatars that signify which platform we play on.

[Cameron Garrod]

for general discussion? Beause any time a console person post's a question the answer right away is "mod" well that's hard and... well illegal to do on consoles, so why does Bethesda not make General Discussion for Consoles? just asking?

now more to the point, So. The player in Skyrim is Dragonborn... and when playing Oblivion, the blades addressed Martin as dragonborn. so that means that since only a true septim can light the dragon fires, then only the dragonborn can light the fires. So does that mean that the player in skyrim is related to Martin septim, uriel septim and even Tiber Septim himself, (that's Talos if i'm correct) and more over, that now the dragonfires are not lit due to the only dragonborn being in Skyrim? i've never beat Oblivion so i'm not sure how it ends, but i do know that the dragonfires not being lit means that the gates to oblivion can be opened again, causing mass destruction. if so, then how come we have not heard about this?

Their are several places in Skyrim that you can read and/or hear about the way that the "Dragonborn" work's. reverenses to the Oblivion crisis and the gates, Martin Septim and other thing's. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Books#All_Books That's a listing of all the ingame book's. You can read them their or wait and read them ingame. But most if not all the questions about Oblivion and Dragonborn can be answered in them.

[Samantha Jane Adams]

If you have an actual question/problem, just say that you're on console. I don't even understand what you would want to discuss in such a forum. General topics (lore, quests, opinions, etc)? PC users will join in anyway. Bugs? There is already a forum for it. Mods? Not gonna happen. There is nothing left to discuss...

I have seen dozens of people on these forums getting snide remarks from pc elitists if you say your on console alot will say "that's what you get for getting low end skyrim" or other remarks similar to this, the of elitistm on these forums are ok but when somone post's a topic and it turns into a discussion of why you should get skyrim on pc and, that us console users are inferior to the pc players it's just plain ridiculous

[James Shaw]

Put something in your signiture that says you are a console player. Something like

360 PLAYER PS3 PLAYER

[Tarka]

maybe he had kids?

Nope, my dragonborn is Argonian, explain that

[Tessa Mullins]

Nope, my dragonborn is Argonian, explain that

Well, all that would have to happen is [censored] and then [censored] in a tree [censored] with forbidden magicks from beyond [censored]. See? Simple as [censored].

[Kathryn Medows]

for general discussion? Beause any time a console person post's a question the answer right away is "mod" well that's hard and... well illegal to do on consoles,

the platform the person is on is not known unless they say so..

[BlackaneseB]

I think the problem is that pc users excuse problems with the game and if console users have a beef with the game then, the forums (a pc majority forums) suggest mods because they are used to having every single problem they have with the game being catered to and fixed by mods

Therein lies the problem with Bethesda, they rely too heavily on modders to fix the bugs, glitches and other problems they couldn't do themselves.