Wow I was getting ready to eat dinner,thanks! Kidding.

Why indeed...

Personally my characters have no time for it, those dragons aren't going to slay themselves.

Kissing is not bad thing In Skyrim dont have even single kiss enywhere

I love the way you people assume it`s porm.

I don`t recall every love scene in a movie being porm!

I dunno but your minds reveal more about yourselves!

Best shop in the game!

Are you werewolves, or just you? They don't get any of the sleeping bonuses.

Yeah, six aside, I see marriage as kind of lame simply because it's lifeless and characters or the marriage doesn't get integrated with the rest of story. When I say it should be closer to a Bioware game, that's exactly what they do. A lot of the story and choices you make involves what you think about other people.. and they have their own quests, things like that..

Some followers in this game are easier to imagine being part of your character's overall actions though. Aela gets quite a few quests. You'd have to at least be somewhat sympathetic to her cause to even want to do them. It's not tied into the dovahkiin storyarc, but at least it's something. There should be more options like that.

Really, the two reasons are 1) tell people about it (which isn't all that exciting), and 2) money. They give you $100 each day.

And really, if you want to see s** on SKYRIM, you have some problems. Not everyone is perverted enough to want to stare at naked NPC's

That's how I see it. As much as I'm enjoying Skyrim, the marriage concept is really just superfluous. Bioware did a much better job with romance in Origins. They may be taking notes about the open sandbox world of Bethesda but when it comes to including romance in a 'roleplaying' game, Bioware does it much better. At least it's more fleshed out and actually satisfying from a player standpoint, IMO. I got the feeling that gamesas was trying to toe the line - ie, appeal to the players who are fans of the Bioware-esque romance while trying not to offend those who find the concept of romance in a game distasteful.

I don't know why they'd hold back. I mean, even Conan has a good romance storyarc (the first movie, I mean). And it doesn't spoil anything. It makes it more badass, if anything.

This. Some of the followers have a fair amount to work with and it wouldn't have taken all that much to make them a lot better. But the marriage thing is just creepy (Oh, look! You're wearing that amulet! Marry me now!). Ugh.

Krazzu you have those problems? If u have sorry. Because i dont have. And who said here we need to see six scenes in - game it can be samekind when u sleep black scene..

I agree. DAO and ME as well.

Bioware games are far more linear, so they can have scripted romances. That's not how Bethesda does things, which is to leave a lot open for the player to make the situation as they see it. Besides, ME "romances" are no more involved than Skyrim's.

Not a werewolf. Just tried it now. Went back to her place and got "You awaken feeling your Lover's Comfort" (oo-er vicar!). Now have it on Active Effects. Seems like it is a bug with a wife who is also a follower if you move straight to your house.

I'm not that familiar with Oblivion mods, but from the ones I've seen, it's a safe bet to assume that this is what people mean when they say add six to the game.

Dragon Age Origins let you kiss an NPC and there were mods that added hugs, but you can see that it is very difficult to get animations that don't look terrible. Getting toons to line up for skin-on-skin is obviously difficult, and shouldn't be a major focus in a game where marriage is just a small added roleplay element rather than a large focus.

Absolutely.

I guess that's just my opinion. I think if you really want to, go look on youtube or something. I just think there's no place in a videogame for s**. I'm not a fan of porm in a good video game

And my name's Krazz, not Krazzu -.-

If one could only marry a dragon...

No need for camp fires,
dinner is cooked in 3..2..1.. seconds,
no point in arguing as the dragon is always right,
and best of all: free dragon rides!

Well, I'm not really sure what 'linear' has to do with it, really. If gamesas wants to include romance then they should find away of scripting it into the game, in a meaningful way, otherwise, why bother?

TES was never really about creating dating and relationship simulators or storylines. You'll want Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Fable for that. Besides that, I can just assume that it happens, I don't really see the need for making that a really elaborate part of Skyrim.


It's worth pointing out that you're replying to the topic creator, there, with whom you are in agreement in the first place about the need for some kind of inclusion of six scenes in Skyrim.


^^^^^^^^Pretty much this.^^^^^^^^


Those mods are typically among the more popularly downloaded, though you won't find many who'll admit to having downloaded it themselves.

Seeing how it was done in Dragon Age, setting the scenes and carrying them out, and further in Mass Effect, just really makes me wonder why people want it included so much. It looked awkward and I just found something weird about trying to make my character have a relationship in a game in which the primary arc of the story is that I'm the hero who saves the day. I'm always just left thinking that the people who most want simulated relationships in their games are the ones who don't know what actual relationships are like.

DAO let you kiss? You mean as a PC function, like attack or pickpocket? I"m talking about a cut scene or even just a fade to black. Something to imply the emotion. The skin to skin action seems a little too much. They could have easily done something like that. Bioware done it in good taste.

It wouldn't have taken a tremendous amount of effort to implement.

lol.. if anything, i'd say some are spot on. i know what real relationships are like. the last one was almost exactly like Merrill from DA2. *facepalm* Except, she wasn't an elf addicted to blood magic. She was an alcoholic. And I was sort of an ex-substance abuser who tried to control myself. But it had the same feel to it, where people don't want to admit their problems or think they're invincible. The same type of arrogance was in Merril. They just called it Blood Magic.

Because the dev philosophy is different. Bioware gives a more directed experience, Bethesda likes to leave it more open so that there is a wide field of player freedom in interpretation.

Yes, with some toons you could initiate a kiss with an NPC romance, but it consisted of showing the back of the PC's head and some really... erm, awkward... slurpy sounds. I would just as soon not, you know.

I agree.

I really enjoyed the romance in Kinghts of the old republic and I am sure that I will also enjoy it when I get the chance to play Mass effect.

Hopefully the romance in this game will have the chance to get better.

I like romance in games, it adds another dimension to it.