From what I gather, yes, it has, but he's failed to respond and the project appears to have been abandoned.

Funny, I had a similar problem yesterday, using Skyrim Redone and Live Another Life. With both mods installed, when going into the Helgen cave as part of Live Another Life quest, halfway in, there was nothing but sky and stepping off the edge dropped me into the keep. Removing Skyrim Redone fixed it. May have been another conflict but the removal of the one mod fixed it.

Skyrim conflicts are much harder to figure out.

Interesting Peter ID, for me if I remove the Unofficial Skyrim Patch when running Live Another Life, Helgen's Keep loads properly. If it's enabled I'm missing half the keep, I can eventually reload to it but Ralof/Hadvar are gone!

I also had similar problems with LoL in Helgen. I narrowed it down to Real Wildlife. I deactivated RW, entered Helgen, exited with Ralof and MQ kicked in. I then reactivated RW. I cannot use any quest mods as they instantly CTD. I have read the USKP causes all manner of clashes with quest mods. But in my game it must be a clash with other mods as the games always CTD when trying to resume save game.

Someone is spreading disinformation then because the USKP is doing no such thing.

I think it has to do with how the quests have been set up to start. If the mod author has gone into the story manager and added their quest to the vanilla quest node found under the events, it will work when nothing else is loaded, but will have problems if there is another mod that also adds to the vanilla quest node.

Supposedly, the "right" way to do it is to add a totally new node to the event rather then adding to the vanilla quest node that is inside the event, but I am unsure whether or not this will still cause conflicts.

I believe this is an oversight by Bethesda, they spent a long time hyping up their story manager, but unfortunately the way .esp's override the skyrim.esm seems to be on a "first come, first serve" basis

- Hypno

I saw this in the conflicts section of the sea of ghosts quest mod

I've seen the UKSP referenced as a conflict with numerous dungeon mods as well. If it's disabled I can actually run a fair number of dungeon ESP's. Not sure why this is, I much prefer the UKSP's changes to dungeons however even though it would be nice to have my cake and eat it too. I imagine that with the size of my load order it is likely not the UKSP's fault, but I have definitely at least seen Helgen Keep load up fully with it disabled.

Cataxu and polynike:

Based on what you experienced then my thought that SkyrimRedone was the conflict is probably partially true, as it could be a combination of mods causing this (I also use RWL). I had a similar problem with Skyrim Economics and Sounds Of Skyrim where it would CTD.

Right now I am setting up a new game, install from scratch, but get CTDs and un-loadable saves (but not all of them). Trying to figure out a way to see what mods I should not use by adding a few at a time and testing is not very practical as it may work for a bit and then CTD. All mods I am using I have seen others use without problem so it must be something in my combination.

An example is Scenic Carriages. If I choose a scenic travel it will CTD right after I am told to hop on board. Now seeing my issues with Live Another Life and Skyrim Redone or Realistic Wildlife (mods that work well), it is a shot in the dark which mod(s) can be causing the problem. Especially since there are people who do not have an issue with that combination.

In the spirit of the OP, my opinion would be that there are some things we still do not know about how the game works, and this causes good mods to not work correctly when they should. I feel like we are still in Skyrim beta testing

I'm beginning to think that it is something that the mod author has done wrong vs it being skyrim itself. Here are 3 mods I'm using now that contain quest and all seem to work together without any of the problems stated in the OP.

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=9782&navtag=file/images.php?id=9782&tab=3

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=17289

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=8333&navtag=file/images.php?id=8333&tab=3

So everytime I install a mod with a quest in it I do hours of testing for stability purposes. So with these three mods I seen no side effects. I'll test my luck and continue to add more to see what works and what doesnt.

So using TESVSnip at all will cause corrupted entries? or only if the esp/esm contains the mentioned record types?

Please do, I can list some quests, but seeing your load order would be a big help.

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=15896 (Can run this as an ESP)
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/modules/members/index.php?id=3013861 (Could run 1, running others resulted in instability and Sea of Ghosts is a huge ESP which I could not run till splitting it and placing his custom worldspaces in an ESM. Splitting all 4 quests allowed me to run them concurrently without "specific" CTDs I observed with them)
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=15126 (WIP, the quests are non-functional, but still did not run for me unless split)
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=14971 (Curiously could run her other dungeon, 'Onyx Caverns' as an esp)
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=12935 (Could not run as an ESP)
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=16197 (Another no-go ESP)
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=17246
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=16810

By no means am I insisting you download and give all these a go, I usually test any reasonably decent quest/dungeon I see on the Nexus. These are just what I have as ESM+ESPs at the moment.


I am wondering this as well, I have split a number of ESPs with TESVSNIP and occasionally encounter holes in the dungeons I test, all is well when LAL is removed for the most part (Sometimes the dungeon/quest split just doesnt cooperate [I haven't actually been able to keep Live Another Life enabled and not have holes in Chillwind Depths and Nightcaller Temple with my current load order, I assume the behavior is the same with the UKSP]). I imagine this is a result of using TESVSNIP. Definitely not blaming LAL or UKSP here, just reporting what I've observed! Looking at TESVGecko's indefinite release date, I assume we have no alternative aside from the CK at this point?

See Front page for more info and more compatible quest mods that work together!

My load order for the quest mods is

moonpath.esm
sleepingtree.esm
winterholddestruction.esm
moonpath.esp
expandedwinterhold.esp
interestingnpc.esp
drainedblood.esp

I'm surprised you were able to get drained bloodline to work, I could never get a save loaded/new game started with it...would you be willing to post your full load order? This is mine: http://www.pasteall.org/32011

For the most part I just let BOSS handle it and correct what I can, but the ESM+ESPs obviously throw it off.

I have the expanded winterhold and running no worries. I took of moonpath as I thought it too unlore friendly for my RP playthrough. Dungeon mods have almost been impossible to run though

Update drained blood line seemed to crash in the volcanic region where the eldergleam sactuary is right near the fort where the black mages took over the stormcloak fort. Not sure how to get my full load order without manually going through the list.

Hey 4skyrim, he does have a lot of UDRs in his files last I checked. Might consider bringing it up to him! Anyway you can get your whole load order by going to:

c\users\(your pc name)\appdata\local\skyrim\

Loadorder.txt is what you want!

Copypaste Plugin.txt From here

C:/Users/(screename)/Appdata/Local/Skyrim

Plugin txt is the one i use because Loadorder shows all mods reguardless if they are active or not

I cant find the appdata folder, is it in the steam folder?

It's hidden by default:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/Show-hidden-files

Its a hidden folder

Go into your Control pannel find folder options and Tick the Show hidden folders box


lol cataxu you and me are goign to keep rapidfire posting each other arent we?

Update.esm
JSwords.esm
moonpath.esm
Omegared99-Compilation.esm
Lycanthropy_Audio_by_Brevi.esm
3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esm
SleepingTreeSanctuary.esm
WinterholdDestruction.esm
Beautiful Whiterun.esp
RealisticWhiterun.esp
Less Falling Damage.esp
Killable Children - Quest Important Protected.esp
Arrowsmith.esp
craftable blades armor.esp
geralt_ravenarmor_v02b.esp
bloodaegismod.esp
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
Beautiful Riften.esp
BetterMagic_FULL.esp
ThalmorStandalone.esp
DualSwords.esp
DeadlyCombat.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
DEATH-DEALER.esp
DragonBoneWeaponsComplete.esp
Dread Knight Weapon Set.esp
Dwemer Spectres.esp
Gizmodian-Obliviweapons.esp
GizmodianOblivionWeaponsCraftable.esp
GuardianStonesOverhaul-Candrian.esp
True Giants.esp
armored-horses.esp
RiverwoodHuntingCabin.esp
treehouse2.0BETA.esp
Insanity's Sorrow.esp
isilNarsil.esp
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
JoOPraetorian.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - Around Cities.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - Bridges x2 - OnOff.esp
LFArmors.esp
MidasSkyrim.esp
moonpath_questdata.esp
MoreSnowWindyand75percentLessView.esp
MoreRainWindy66percentLessView.esp
Nicoroshi Creations.esp
Omegared99-Compilation-NPC Plugin.esp
Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp
Perfect Legionnaire 3.0.esp
Phenderix's Magic Evolved.esp
Purewaters.esp
SwordRagnar?k.esp
Realistic Lighting.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
Natural Skyrim Rain.esp
Realistic werewolf speed.esp
Black_Shadow_Armor.esp
Reaper's Dread Arrow at Forge.esp
RiversideLodge.esp
RiverWood Redux.esp
Riverwood Redux Expanded Basemant.esp
SkyTEST-RealPredators&Animals.esp
SoS - The Dungeons.esp
SoS - The Wilds.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
Lycanthropy_Main_by_Brevi.esp
The Asteria - Dwemer Airship.esp
The Dance of Death.esp
Throwing Knives.esp
tom349fistweapons.esp
TrissArmorRetextured.esp
WeaponsOf3E.esp
3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esp
kimono's witcher silver swords.esp
Crimson Tide - Blood.esp
Vampire Eyes Fix.esp
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
LFox Bottle That Blood.esp
Better Vampires.esp
MaleClericArmor.esp
ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp
DragonCrowns.esp
Northborn Fur Hoods.esp
EinherjarArmor.esp
3DNPC.esp

All of those mods had been tested and proven to be compatible with each other and thanks for showing me how