Just look at Thief, which is obviously a favorite of both of us. It didn't need ramant sixuality to be a masterpiece.

The reason is that United States media customs are dictated by antiquated puritanical customs that lack logical sense and are rather ass-backwards. Studies and surveys have proven that the United States, where sixuality is considered hush-hush "bad" (obviously by not everyone in the U.S.; I'm sure quite a few can't help but think of the illogical things their country does), is far more generally puritanical than western Europe and Japan, where sixuality is far more of an accepted topic due to a greater freedom from, in my opinion, arbitrary and nonsensical moral guidelines provided by a mythological-minded nature.

The six drive is a beautiful, natural thing. What's even more beautiful is having porm to always keep us satisfied.

Therefore, we never bottle our urges up due to our closed-minded religious lifestyle, and have it explode by molesting little boys. And in our horrible, pathetic shame, cover it up and still pretend we're holy people. =]

You see, kids? Parents? porm will only save us from our primal selves. Embrace it, America. Put nudity in our video games. The modders have the right idea. I'll bet you're all VERY excited for the Creation Kit ;{D~

.................Not sure if serious...............

Try to keep Trolling on the main subject please..
If you ask anybody they all be affected by some six,violence ,drug Story but the fact is its a GAME mean having FUN to do what you cant in real life.

Now your arguing and bending things. I said you wont forget the images. I said ask the porm addicts. It starts with something so simple as it. You find its so easy to find it then you go and look for it. Not saying everyone will become porm addicts. Just it hurts more then it helps. Also why do people make MODS for women to have huge briasts and naked in games if its just a pixel???

lol wtf

Thats why they have a seperate game on the internet for that.

I am dead serious. One day you'll understand. When you and I are old folks, one of the only things we've got left in the world is our manhood. If it still works.

But if you got lots of practice with it, like me, it probably will ;{D~

IKR?

Body mods dont need the CK to be put in. *points to skynex*

This world is so messed up

Most americans live in some kind of prison or other. So that's their idea of six; simple as that.

On that basis they'd rather the peons were shanking than [censored] each other.

I don't know about you guys but I got boobies in my game...

Right, but you can't blame the game for how those few people turned out, and say "WHOAH GUYS! We can't do this, because it JUST MIGHT turn someone into a porm addict!" If a virtual woman was the last straw for them, and pushed them over the edge to become a porm addict, I'd give you 99:1 odds that they were going to deal with that addiction regardless if they played that game, and saw that scene, or not.

People make those mods, because they prefer that look to others. That doesn't mean they sit there with their pants down, and constantly rub one out while playing. Why do people mod new textures onto armor? Or make their own sets? Because they like the look better.

I can't say that if you play a Khajit, you're probably trying to live out some beastiality fantasy, can I?

The sooner you embrace it, the happier you'll be :{D~

I agree!! But WHY six IS BAD AND VIOLENCE IS ACCEPTED!!??

When we kill 4 kids in Iraq its a collateral damage but seeing six(in Skyrim)
will turn us in some Rap*ing Demon WTF???

Most parents wish to explain sixuality themselves to their kids but violence is so common on tv and such that there's no point in turning it into a bigger issue.


Just a theory. I think its stupid how videogames and movies get [censored] if they show boobs or a dike, yet its perfectly ok to see someone get shot or beaten to death. If I randomly saw a boob in real life it might be amusingly hot/repulsive depending on the girl and then I would go on with my day, but if I saw someone get shot to death I would be pretty scarred.

In b4 Lock because the moderator is laughing too hard

So you can't grt laid IRL........... dude



But I think that drugs and violence are portrayed negatively enough in other media for people to know it's wrong
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My best guess, children are already participating in six at young ages, not knowing whether it is truly "right" or "wrong". This leads to shows like "16 and Pregnant" and "Jerry Springer".
Kids are smarter to know it is bad to hurt people, but with six so well integrated into our culture and children being frisky little buggers things will happen, and Bethesda could get sued for influencing a child of doing bad things.
In law suits, it is never the responsibility of the consumers, but the suppliers. That is my take.

That would be creeepy lol. No your right im just saying why it shouldnt be in a game but some people will download it because of the nudity. Not saying all of them do it for that but cant say they dont either. If they want to make an elder scrolls game with nudity then make it seperate from the others. I wont be buying it and ill just get the rated M one. My preference is not to have it.

Yes, but the fact that they're not marketable is largely because of censorship (i.e., the rating boards) in the U.S. If the ESRB decides your game goes from "M" to "AO" then virtually no major retailer will carry your game and you'll virtually no avenues for marketing your game (magazines, tv, etc.).

And the point of the OP, I think, is that with the exception of explicit [censored] or violence involving children, the *only* thing that'll bump a game from "M" to "AO" is nudity and/or six. Further, even in the US, this doesn't make much sense when considering that R-rated (vs. X-rated) movies can and do contain significant amounts of nudity (about the only thing they can't show is penetration).

The rationalization that it's because the ESRB is trying to protect kids from their ignorant parents either means the MPAA rating board is shamelessly not protecting kids from their parents, or that the ESRB ridiculously thinks kids need protection from exposure to nudity, but almost any amount of violence is dandy. This rationalization really falls apart when you consider what the point of a rating system is at all if "Mature", which is supposed to mean 17+, is actually worried about a prepubascent's exposure to said content.

From a reasonable standpoint, whether morally, ethically, or psychologically, it makes little sense that nudity will cause significantly more trauma than violence. And even if a child *were* equally traumatized by exposure to both, I'm much more afraid of the child who grows desensitized to violence than one desensitized to nudity or six.

JMHO, of course.

Need to compare apples to apples not apples to oranges that is completly different. Yes also i cant spell to well lol. Compare a game not a warzone and a video game.

Censorship, regardless of whether that is a good thing, or a bad thing.

In response to the difference in views about six and violence, some places are just desensitised to murder and violence. I recently read a study that showed the USA had over 80% of the western world's firearms deaths (30 000+ per year), mostly homicides, but the accident and suicide rate was far higher per capita than any other western nation as well. On the other hand, a number of years ago the US Congress conducted a study into women in the workforce, and the only industry that did not have a 'glass ceiling', and had more women than men in CEO positions, and a rough balance between women and men in executive positions, was the US porm industry.