Why is Skyrim so spartan? : V - Skyrim

» Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:59 pm

I agree with the OP. The new system is simple enough to work, but offers no depth.

» Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:05 pm

I think that the simplicity of basic stats and leveling meshes well with the impressive array of abilities and perks available, and the items you can acquire, deconstruct, and combine. You can create a dizzying variety of character types, but without unnecessary complexity.

And if you do want a Spartan-looking character, just go with the right boots, helmet, and handwear, and no armor, and a sword and shield. You'll look like a refugee from "300". And whenever you charge into battle, you can yell: "Tonight we dine in Oblivion!"

Can we dine at pizza hut instead? I mean oblivion sounds cool and all but I'm not that into BBQ

» Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:43 pm

Wow.. Far too many people in this thread don't tknow that Spartan means more than one thing.. I don't know whether to be surprised, or disappointed.

Edit: Nevermind someone already defined it.

» Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:23 pm

I have no idea why the guys and gals who made this game decided to remove all of the statistical systems they had in place and make the game the way they did.

Money. Lots of money.
Dumbed down to the lowest possible denominator to appeal to as many people as possible to sell as many copies as possible.

Unfortunately for those of us who actually enjoy a rich experience that challenges your mind, Bethesda seems to have been successful in their approach.
:confused:

» Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:13 am

When you said Spartan, I thought you were complaining about lack of pants on some armors in Skyrim. :ph34r:

» Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:24 pm

Did you really make a whole 6 paragraph post on the term spartan applied and it's relation to skyrim?

» Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:39 pm

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Spartan

Spar·tan (sp?r[img]http://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/prime.gif[/img]tn)
adj.
1. Of or relating to Sparta or its people.
2. also spartan

a. Rigorously self-disciplined or self-restrained.

b. Simple, frugal, or austere: a Spartan diet; a spartan lifestyle.

c. Marked by brevity of speech; laconic.

d. Courageous in the face of pain, danger, or adversity.

This. Thank you for the enlightenment.

And a big *facepalm* to the people who thought about Halo.

» Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:02 am

I've never heard the word Spartan used in this context before.

It was the original meaning of the term 'spartan' as an adjective (not as a noun) before the movie 300 glorified spartans to an unrealistically badass level. Basically, because spartans are so tough, they make soldiers live on very little, thus, spartan is a synonem for minimalistic.

God Im a nerd.

» Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:09 pm

Todd watched 300.

» Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:16 am

WE ARE SKYRIM......................(kicks into pit)................. :banana:

» Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:02 am

Maybe it would be a smart idea to do 'skill nets' where for every 4 level ups in one handed you get one level up in two handed automatically. because technique can translate a little, but in reality training with one wont actually teach you how to use the other. Swords are designed with certain things in mind, using a sharp blade like elven short sword would be massively different to using a 'blunt' blade like a steel claymore. and using one handed weapons is completely different from using two handed ones IRL.

» Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:22 am

The "Skyrim made progressing better because it removed redundant stat points" argument is, well, redundant.

There's no reason they couldn't have used stats & perks rather than just perks. Granted it would have been nice if they could have worked on an alternative to the +5 skill system from Morrowind & Oblivion, but even that was much better than no stats at all.

Yes, the current perk system provides many ways to build your characters, but why not have stats as well and increase those possibilities exponentially?

Customisation doesn't have to be frightening, Bethesda could just include a " apply stats to recommended attributes" button to increase your stats based on your class...? Oh yeah, thats something else they removed isn't it?

Sigh.

» Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:55 pm

And a big *facepalm* to the people who thought about Halo.

And yet there's a message in how many people thought "does dat meen haloz?"
Says something about Skyrim, says something about it's fanbase, says something about the gaming industry, says something about the direction we're all headed.

» Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:15 am

that 300 the movie was about flash and flare and had little historical relevance? lolol

don't get me wrong, they were absolute badasses just the super creatures were lulzy

» Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:00 am

that 300 the movie was about flash and flare and had little historical relevance? lolol

don't get me wrong, they were absolute badasses just the super creatures were lulzy

It was a great action comedy.

» Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:51 pm

It was a great action comedy.

I thought it was just a comedy. I don't know about you, but I was laughing at it the whole way through.

PS, weren't you a moderator a while back? I couldve sworn you were

» Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:34 pm

I'm aghast that so many people don't understand the OP's usage of "spartan". Before Hollywood and "300" there used to be actual ancient Sparta and spartan lifestyle, you know: simple, harsh life of young warriors with no comforts and a lot of sacrifices. So sad that everybody thinks only of "kicking people down wells"... :/

Anyway, I agree with the OP.

Ever read Persian Fire? It's a fantastic book, covers the rise of the Persian empire, how Greece came to be in the state it was in and what they did to antagonise the Persians enough kick off that whole conflict.

» Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:34 pm

THIS THREAD IS SPARTAN...NOT!