I'm pretty new here (I found the board 5 minutes ago and spent the last 4 registering) but I can assume you get a lot of these threads here, so I'm sorry for writing this, but I'd really like to see if there's a mutual feeling going on here. I can only hope that this forum has a friendly community (The kind that gives thoughtful replies instead of "who cares what you think" or something similar).

I'd like to start by saying that I do not hate Fallout: New Vegas or any other Fallout game - Far from it. It seems like most games nowadays are generic war shooters, like Call of Duty and Medal of Honour, but the Fallout series is a much needed breath of fresh air.
I loved Fallout 3 and Fallout: New Vegas. I've spent hours on each one, exploring and listening to timeless classics on the radios (Lone Star being my favourite). I played Fallout 3 from start to 'finish', as well as all the DLCs, and I still go back to it regularly when I feel the need to squash Rad-Scorpions. Absolutely amazing game. Fallout: New Vegas was, in my opinion, even better than it's predecessor and fulfilled all of my expectations with no problems at all. Well, almost....

On the days leading up to release, I was hearing a lot of talk about bugs in New Vegas - Glitches that make something happen that shouldn't have. I knew there would be bugs, New Vegas is a huge game after all, so there were bound to be some bugs. For the majority of my time playing New Vegas, I didn't have a problem with bugs (The occasional glitched-up Rad-Scorpion corpse, but nothing too bad), but then, at the peak of my enjoyment, I was hit by an unholy Triforce of bugs.

These bugs didn't prevent me from playing the game - there were ways around them - but they seriously lowered my enjoyment.

The first was that 'Old Cowboy Hat' glitch, which some of you may know. After doing a debt collecting quest for the 'Atomic Wrangler' you're sent to kill a man on the strip. I go to kill him, take his hat as proof I killed him, then collect my money. Next time I try to enter the strip - the game freezes.
At first, I didn't know what to link this to. I had done quite a bit between finishing the quest and entering the strip again, so I returned to my most recent save file - one which was made after completing the quest. After redoing most of my hard work, I tried entering again and the game froze. I 'Googled' it and found the cause, and a way to prevent it.
If I were to wear an 'Old Cowboy Hat' while entering the strip (And keep wearing it throughout my time there), the game would not freeze. It solved my problem, but when my hat was too badly damaged I would have to find another 'Old Cowboy Hat' before being able to enter the strip again, which was annoying and made the game a lot less enjoyable.
Luckly, this problem was recently patched.

The second of my problems was the worst. My character had been pretty good throughout my time in the Mojave Wasteland, and when it came the time for me to choose a faction I chose to join the NCR. Turns out that wasn't an option.
The NCR Ambassador never appeared. Now where in the NCR Embassy - Not in either building, not in between buildings, and not just stuck behind a door somewhere which I didn't notice (I checked behind all doors - nothing). Because of this bug, I haven't finished the game - I worked hard to be accepted by NCR (fighting the temptation to steal everything they own) and I didn't want to end the game without fighting for them. So I didn't.
I checked recently and found that they still haven't patched this.

The third was the most common bug I found. Everyone I spoke to found the same bug, and agreed it was a major pain to deal with. I'm not talking about a glitch here - I'm talking about Cazadors.
These orange-winged butterflies and incredibly annoying, strong, and always come it groups. It took me two blasts from the Alien Blaster to kill one of them, and then I ran out of power cells. After that I just avoided the mountain areas, which is a shame because it limits my exploring.
I'm not expecting this to be 'patched' in any way. I'm not asking for them to be removed - I'm just kind of miffed they're so powerful.

Now, all of these problems I had with the game, although limiting what I could do, were still very minor. The song 'Lone Star' and the companion Veronica are worth these problems, and there's so much more the game offers. I just thinks it's a shame that I could be so happy playing and then hit with a problem like that. It's like giving a child a lollipop then taking it away.

Has anyone else encountered problems like these?

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Sorry 'NinjaFish', but I was kind of looking for a helpful response from someone, possibly with an example of a similar situation that had happened to them, or maybe some advice on how to avoid such problems.

Thanks for the warm welcome, though.

You probably didn't need to start a new thread for this, but anyway...

Problem #1: You say it's been patched? So it's not a problem, is it?

Problem #2: I've not experienced this problem, but it is a known bug, I guess.

Problem #3: Now that's just user error. I used to have problems with Cazadores before, but once you have the proper tool and proper strategy, they're not that tough to kill.

Welcome to the board ~have a http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj125/Gizmojunk/Dino-Fishy.jpg. :laugh:

I've only had minor bugs, and few of note.

My peeve is silly collision geometry ~like ant holes that look like a hole, but cannot be stepped in or have things dropped into... and clear (but solid) gaps like under the rails in the Vicky Vance casino. Its air, but you cannot shoot someone through it, and darts will stick to ~http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj125/Gizmojunk/invisible-walls.jpg.

'edr247', I encountered the problems above during my first playthrough back in October.

I waited for the 'Old Cowboy Hat' glitch to be patched for quite a while, until I got Black Ops and stopped playing New Vegas for a while. I had the problem for at least two weeks.

As for the Cazadors, I have tried a number of different things. Alien Blaster was the best (Until I ran out of power cells), then I started using the Antimaterial Rifle's armour-piercing or flaming rounds, and now I've started using the Thermal Lance. They still drain my health by quite a bit, though.

And sorry for making a new thread. I haven't really been on many threads before.

Welcome to the forum. We are aware of the problems and the need for a patch. We have been assured we will receive one soon.


If the bugs annoy you too much I would stop playing until the patch comes out and you can enjoy the game a bit more. Some aren't bothered by them but regardless it needs to be patched.

Equation to end Cazador Problem:

Cazador + (Automatic Weapon + Hollow Point Rounds) = Dead Cazador
Cazadors don't have any Damage Threshold, just a lot of health.

Weclome to the fourm. Someone beat me to it, in giving you a fishy stick. I understand where you are coming from. You are not alone. I am like that now, after over 20 hours of playing I am slowly getting disapointed with the game, I love so much.

Thanks for the news on the update, 'summer', it's reassuring to see that this problem is being addressed. I'm getting a new X-Box in about a week or so (Current one has a disc-reading error) and I'll probably start playing New Vegas again after I've replayed Fallout 3, so there should be plenty of time for the patch to be realised :hehe:

'GT409', thanks for the tip against Cazadors. I'll try it out ^_^

Shotguns end Cazadors. Use Riot Shotgun or Hunting Shotgun.

They are not supposed to be easy to kill they are supposed to be insanely hard to kill. Its not a problem, its the challenge of endgame monsters.

As for your glitch problems I have luclily only had a few crashes and strange rad scorpions. But that is all. (well and the glitch that effects lever action firearms and handloaded ones)

I find it easy to kill the killer moths... just use any fast firing weapon. For energy the rcw will nuke em fast but the flamer and incinerator are supposed to realy hurt em for guns any smg will do. Just remember to back up constantly.

Hunting shotgun + the shotgun surgeon perk for cazadores. They are challenging but I like that.

I love the Cazadores. They're pretty scary in groups, they're animated well, and they're much different than the other wasteland creatures. If caught unprepared they can even give a level 25 character a challenge, and that's a good thing.

Carry anivenom! If you get stung and poisoned your hit points will ebb away quickly. If you're under level 15 or so I'd try to avoid them or see if you can pull them away from the group one at a time. Even then it's easy to mess up and end up surrounded, though, and that's bad. Very bad.

I haven't had any of the problems. Regarding the Cazadors, try using hallowpoint shells.

Shotgun Surgeon shouldn't have any benefit on Cazadors. No DT to bypass.

Shotguns are definitely effective, though. Better odds of scoring a hit. I also liked using the Hunting Revolver to get them from a short distance, before they spotted me.

The Laser RCW and Light Machine Gun are good bets too.

I kinda preferred flamethrowers or mini-nukes to deal with Cazadors. Overkill is much more fun.

Went through with a twerked out Explosives build recently and Grenade Machinegun does the number too. And, after you get good at long range enfilade fire, from quite a distance also. Ed-e, explosives perks, Grenade Machinegun+ and a good mortarman's eye means dead Hunters (butterflies) before they know you're there.

-Gunny out.

The trick to cazadores is to use an automatic weapon and shoot for the wings. Once you cripple those things the cazadores can't do anything but run at you slowly. ( Well not slowly but not fast, so like in the middle. I hope you know what I'm talking about?)

To kill a Mocking Cazador...

Get a weapon preferably a melee weapon(unarmed) and PUNCH THAT FLYING PEST IN THE FACE!!!! Liek a Baus!

It knocks them back sometimes I think boxing gloves can make them faint or something

If there's more than one or two this will probably make you dead, though.

Naw, not if you have enough unarmed or melee skill. Ballistic fist with a dose of jet gets 5 swings from VATS on the average character, and two of those swings are enough to drop any cazador.

The fact that the Cazadores are tough is not any sort of glitch or bug.

They are perhaps the toughest enemies in the game.

I'm at level 30, after 160 hours on my first playthrough and the only way I've been able to beat them when they gang up on me is by using a few doses of Turbo and hacking them to bits with the super slam perk and a super sledge or rebar club.

Aye, Welcome to the fourms. For the Cazadors aim for the wings, as that can take them down quite quickly or at least slow them down a bit.