Do you think The Burned Man can be kill this time? : Fallout: New Vegas

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:36 am

I think being thrown into the Grand Canyon is a little bit more dangerous than you're making it out be.

And regardless of his 'execution', Graham also survived being headshotted by First recon snipers five times. This is a man that even Boone couldn't kill!

Boone isn't the only first recon sniper.. Besides, that dimwit has shot me tons of times, he actually likes throwing grenades at me...

I just don't make a big deal about it like some bible thumping pizzaman seems to...

» Fri May 27, 2011 5:50 pm

Boone keeps standing in front of me when i try to snipe hes such a glory hog

I dunno along with everyone with a few exceptions youll probably be able to kill him when i first meet him im going to test that theory out :evil:

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:49 am

Boone keeps standing in front of me when i try to snipe hes such a glory hog

I dunno along with everyone with a few exceptions youll probably be able to kill him when i first meet him im going to test that theory out :evil:

Good man! I'm gonna pop his head off and then parade it around for a while! :celebration:

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:02 am

My guessing is in Honest Heart storyline, you will not able to kill him directly. But somehow at the end he die without any witness in the scene, and after that you still hear rumor about Burned Man walking in Mojave Wasteland :hehe:

in fallout you can kill almost anyone depending on your choices so i guess yes

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:58 am

Since he'll appear in the gameworld instead of behind glass screens where he's untouchable I'm guessing we can break lore and kill him with ease.
Remember that everyone can be killed if they're "in the gameworld".
We can't kill Oliver unless we side against NCR.
We can't kill Lanius unless we side against Legion.
We can't kill Yes Man as he uploads himself onto a new securitron .
And we can't kill the Gun Runners vendor as he's in an indestructible booth.
But Graham? From the trailer he is to be "in" the gameworld, so we can likely kill him.
/opinion And that would be lore-breaking IMO.
Him, THE Graham, the man that has been reported as being shot dead on multiple occasions, the man who was lit on fire and thrown down the Grand Canyon, gets killed by a [censored] mailman?
I don't care about how demi-god we end up, in lore we're just a mail man and in lore he's THE Graham, lore-wise it doesn't make sense for a delivery guy to kill a beast like him. /opinion

This, however once I got the vendertron out of the booth... It was horrible, I had to run, its not locking us out its keeping him in. He cant be killed, or damaged AT ALL. Also kids cant be killled in the game4 either, I hope graham just gets knocked out. Besides I refuse to kill him, he is just TOO badass qand I am totally going to side with him, damn I would even side with this guy over mr house, and I always side with mr house.

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:26 am

oh if he is a evil character he will die, i have a .50 cal with his name writen on it

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:55 am

hmmm, you think meeting him in full legion praetorian attire would go down well?

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:13 am

bring em on and kill em all, BoS, NCR, legion, great khans, kings, charleston, and powder gangers all wiped out by my hand alone lol. Pretorian armor or not... i take on deathclaw nests with a BAR im sure a .45 pistol will give him a chance atleast lol :toughninja: (now dont go gettin your panties in a twist it's just a game :foodndrink: .... but ill proably kill him one time and not the next)

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:09 am

if we kill him when we first see him will it end the dlc

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:32 am

Exactly, Graham might have some rep when it comes to the Legion but hell, The courier defied DEATH.. Getting shot twice in the head at point blank range > Getting lit of fire and pushed down a hill.
Grahame fumbled a huge battle, badly. We, the courier single handedly reroute power from a major installation, (twice if you steal the helios power for the thumb of god weapon) destroy the fiends, destroy the BoS, Make supremely powerfull allies (Boomers)

AND, at the end of the day drive out two post apocalyptic super-powers, on your own!

Courier > Graham WITHOUT A DOUBT.

... Getting set on fire and thrown to the bottom of the Grand Canyon defies death way more than getting shot in the head. And NCR Rangers/First Recon Snipers have shot Graham multiple times and confirmed death just for him to get back up again and rip them apart. The Courier is a [censored] baby compared to Graham.

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:50 am

im counting on it, i need that customized .45 of his

» Fri May 27, 2011 7:13 pm

theres gota be 50 ways to kill the burning man

The problem is all inside your head I say to thee
The answer is easy if you Take it logically
I’d like to help you in your struggle To be free
There must be fifty ways to kill the burning man

I say it’s really not my habit To intrude
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won’t be lost or misconstrued
But I’ll repeat myself,At the risk of being crude
There must be fifty ways to kill the burning man
Fifty ways to to kill him dead

CHORUS:
You just stab him in the back, Jack
Make a new plan, Stan
You don’t need to be coy, Roy
Just shoot your way free
Run him over with a radioactive bus, Gus
You don’t need to discuss much
Just drop him down the Hover dam water intake, Jake
1000 rounds of .50 cal sal!
a plasma volly Jolly
light him up with a laser beam jean
burry him in concreet pete

just use a nuclear Bomb Tom
And get yourself free

and if all else failes,

` Kill burningman|

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:28 am

I want him too be a [censored] badass, you shoot him wit that AMR? he will rip you apart with his hands. Hes so perceptive that you CANT sneak attack him, His gun skill is over 9000. Everyone of his shots are headshots. I want it too be like that
,.

» Fri May 27, 2011 10:26 pm

I'm here to make sure he dies, the indefinate way.

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:54 am

... Getting set on fire and thrown to the bottom of the Grand Canyon defies death way more than getting shot in the head. And NCR Rangers/First Recon Snipers have shot Graham multiple times and confirmed death just for him to get back up again and rip them apart. The Courier is a [censored] baby compared to Graham.

well this courier just turned him into red chunks. let's see him come back from that!

we all know the NCR snipers are babies anyway.

» Fri May 27, 2011 9:21 pm

well this courier just turned him into red chunks. let's see him come back from that!

we all know the NCR snipers are babies anyway.

So what is the Burned Man killable in Honest Hearts? If so I assumed as much, thanks for ruining Graham :sadvaultboy:

» Fri May 27, 2011 6:56 pm

So what is the Burned Man killable in Honest Hearts? If so I assumed as much, thanks for ruining Graham :sadvaultboy:

there's still surprises, he's a lot different than you'd think.

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:28 am

I already killed him (I just reloaded my save. Just wanted to see how tough he is). He is VERY tough. My guns skill is maxed out and I have a full condish riot shotgun. I shot him once in the head and at least 5-7 more, possibly more than that (I know I didn't have to reload when he went down though, the gun holds 12 rounds) and at least a few of those were head shots, b4 he finally died.

Edit: I just realized that my difficulty somehow got changed to very easy (I probably dropped it so I could go kill everything and screw around w/out worrying about health after beating dead money), so Graham can take a hell of a lot more than that.

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:46 am

I already killed him (I just reloaded my save. Just wanted to see how tough he is). He is VERY tough. My guns skill is maxed out and I have a full condish riot shotgun. I shot him once in the head and at least 5-7 more, possibly more than that (I know I didn't have to reload when he went down though, the gun holds 12 rounds) and at least a few of those were head shots, b4 he finally died.

I didn't think he was that tough. I used AP bullets with This Machine, that ripped through his armor pretty well. He does, however, have a very powerful handgun and I had to use quite a lot of stimpaks (about six for him alone) because he deals a load of damage in a short time.

I was only wearing a Benny's Suit, so that's not the best protection. You'll be fine in heavier armor.

» Fri May 27, 2011 10:58 pm

I killed him in one shot with a sneak attack critical from a brush gun.

All in all I'm pretty disappointed with Graham. Yeah, he's still pretty bad ass, but I would've preferred him as he was in Van Buren. IE: still a horribly evil psychopath.

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:53 am

I killed him in one shot with a sneak attack critical from a brush gun.

All in all I'm pretty disappointed with Graham. Yeah, he's still pretty bad ass, but I would've preferred him as he was in Van Buren. IE: still a horribly evil psychopath.

I liked Graham. He wasn't at all what I expected. The change of heart was a good story, and I think it fit well with his backstory. All the evil he did just made his life worse. I wish the DLC was longer and there was more to the story, but I'm happy with Graham's portrayal and Honest Hearts as a whole.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:00 am

I killed him in one shot with a sneak attack critical from a brush gun.

All in all I'm pretty disappointed with Graham. Yeah, he's still pretty bad ass, but I would've preferred him as he was in Van Buren. IE: still a horribly evil psychopath.

I would have liked this too! I wanted to help him get revenge! The NV Graham is still pretty cool though. I wish the armor you got from him after killing him included the head bandages. I'd love to get some ammusing dialogue options if I talked to Ceacer or any legion member with it on (Esp. if you could impersonate Graham).

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:47 am

He's been a commander of the Legion for what? 30 years?
We've been a merc for hire for what? 2 months?

Paris killed Achilles. What's your point?

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:04 am

well he does have 600 health. would be funny to see how he does via console vs first recon snipers again.

» Fri May 27, 2011 7:19 pm

I'm glad to report that even the Burned Man couldn't survive a direct hit from fat man.