Haven't used 1.5 yet and won't until they fix the giant shadow strobe light freaky lines disco bug they introduced with it.

Don't bother with suggestions to fix it. It's a known issue and Bethesda promised me and the few other ATI Mobile users a fix in the next patch. It's a very specific and weird graphics bug that makes the game unplayable (picture playing the game with a strobe light going off in the landscape whenever you get within 10 feet of an overhead shadow.

Love it so far. Just in time for my new mage character. I love the mage kill cams.

It's better to get both if they have the people to do it. I like getting new content for free even if it's minor.

1.5 has been working fine for me. I wish the kill cams were a little different, maybe not so shaky and a little further back from the action. Quite often they zoom in too close and at wierd angles making it hard to see what's really happening. It was better in FO3. I wish the kill cams, especially archery, were more like the bullet cams in VATS. The water is pretty cool but I was never upset with how it was before so that's minor to me. Haven't had any real issues but I wish in the next one they would fix the waterfalls at a distance. I hate when they aren't moving. That was broken in 1.4 and needs to be put back the way it used to be.

But I thought DLC was the path to adding new content when patches were used to fix problems, considering we know DLC is on the way they could have just bundled things like the Arrow Kill Cam in to that. I know some people might think DLC is paid for but not all DLC is paid for, several companies offer small DLC for free to entice people to consider buying the bigger stuff that comes later. I would consider the additional stuff already given to us as being Bethesda taking on a policy of offering free DLC where the content is low.

But I am ofcourse assuming that the DLC team and patch team are seperate, which they they may not be. I would have been happy waiting for the Hi-Res Pack and Killcams if it meant things got fixed quicker

Things are getting fixed though and that is the main point. They've already released several major patches. The extra stuff is just a bonus on top of that. I've never seen them put out patches any faster, or do a better job on them, when there was no free content so to me it doesn't hurt the process and makes waiting for the larger DLC easier to bear.

After hearing about the Magic Kill Cams... I have to agree with the rest... Magic Kill cams have to go. Archery kill cam needs a fix head shots stun the target and leave them at full health... even if you got an overpowered bow.
Other than that I test out mods 70% of the time.

I love the killcams! Some days I get them quite often and other days not so much. That's good, though because they are always a surprise!

I like the water a lot, too.

I am on PS3 and I think the game looks and runs a bit better, but I haven't reached the dreaded large save file size yet. My existing character had some broken quests that are still broken, but I started a new one...again.

I'm pleased with the patch.

To everyone saying that kill Cams ''Need to go'' i disagree personally i really like the addition, visual flare is always good in my books however i do beleive there should be an option to turn them off one ''flick'' of a button cant be difficult to implement for example i could watch them when i melee all day long but most of the time im an Archer and kill cams just..argh ruin the ''rythm'' of the fight in my eyes.

I am on PS3 but I stay away from that forum. Too much bad karma over there. I do go there for instructions on how to download each patch (and have always followed the instructions carefully) and I will give the PS3 forum credit for teaching me how to upgrade to an SSD. But I got called a traitor (and worse) by so many of those PS3 users in that forum that I left and have not gone back.

I bought Skyrim on 11/11/11 and have not had any more problems that what seems typical for all users regardless of platform. A few minor bugs here and there and a questline breaking glitch with Purity of Revenge that is common to all platforms. I had some lag at one point but it was not that bad and it went away completely once I installed the SSD and I have not had a problem since.

When I downloaded the 1.5 patch, I followed the instructions and deleted the game and the game date (prior patches) and did a clean install. Then loaded up a save, made a new save, rebooted, played 20 minutes without entering any water (just like you can't get into a pool right after eating), made a new save and rebooted. I have not had any problems with the 1.5 patch.

That said, I am not a big fan of the new kill cams because I think they are too long. If they were over in half the time, I wouldn't mind so much, but I don't like not being able to control my character for that long. I wish I could turn them off or make them shorter.

I do like the new water transition effect though.

This is good to hear. There are so many PS3 guys on this forum that complain so much that I thought you guys actually had a broken product. I have a friend who plays Skyrim on the PS3 and he never complained about glitches either... and I'm trying to convince a PS3-only Sony fan friend of mine to purchase Skyrim as well. But, after joining this forum, I stopped. I didn't want to recommend a POS to him.

1.5 is a piece of [censored], game's still broken (Atomic Nirnroot, console files being unplayable when you get to a certain memory size, Weapons not vanishing after you kill an enemy, etc). Yet we get New Killcams, that ruin Bow and Destruction because they are bugged. Beth has a lot of work to do before I call Skyrim a longterm success or heck support Beth in any capacity.

I think there probably was a real problem in the beginning. My first character was getting a save file of about 12 MB at around 40th level. But since the 1.4 patch, the size of that file dropped substantially and the character I created after the 1.4 patch made it to level 40 with only a 6 MB savefile.

Just because I did not have a problem, doesn't mean your friend won't. As I understand the problem, from a lot of reading over in the PS3 forum, the PS3 has 512 MB of RAM but it is split into two busses and Skyrim only makes use of half of it, so once the RAM is used up, the PS3 starts relying on the hard drive for things that should be handled by RAM and that's when the lag sets in. Smaller savefiles makes it easier for the PS3 to keep up.

An SSD costs about a hundred bucks, give or take and depending on which one you get. I got one from newegg that cost about two hundred but is 128GB and does garbage collection as a background function to clean up the SSD without needing an operating system. Some folks say that isn't necessary because a PS3 cannot take full advantage of an SSD's speed, so even with a bit of garbage cluttering the SSD, it will still function fast enough for anything a PS3 can throw at it.

Anyway, the SSD is easy to install and is so much faster than a regular hard drive that it compensates for the lack of RAM without noticible lag. The SSD also speeds up loading times for all games, and it even boots up Netflix faster now, so I was happy with my purchase. But a lot of the PS3 users on the forum feel like buying an SSD "just to play Skyrim" is selling out to the man and relieving pressure for Bethesda to fix the problem.

If your friend does not mind installing an SSD and can follow the instructions for installing new patches when they come out (following those instructions seems to be critical), then he should not have any problems. Without an SSD, he probably still won't have a problem now with the current patches, but my experience is only with a PS3 upgraded with an SSD.

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I'll bet Sony could grab a bigger chunk of the console market share if they could find a way to ship new PS3's with an SSD drive without substantially increasing the cost of the machine.

I agree. And why not? There have been several iterations of the Xbox (which, if I recall, pissed off a lot of Xbox users) that have added different features and enhancements. Lucky for me, I didn't even think about buying a console until the Xbox/Kinect bundle came out December 2010 so I have the latest iteration (I think). That was when my laptop could no longer realistically support the latest games. There is no reason why Sony couldn't do the same thing... but since they don't it makes me wonder if they're thinking that the PS3 has reached the end of its lifecycle and have just decided to let it go at this point.

He'd be getting it new, so I'm assuming that all of the patches would download the minute he starts up the game for the first time (meaning he wouldn't have to go through those steps to get them to work). Is that a fair assumption? But, I don't think he'd be interested in doing the SSD thing. I'll bring it up to him though (if he gets the game and if he starts complaining about frame rate issues).

really like the arrowkams. i'll have to wait and see with the magickams. i've only had destruction kills on low level enemies.

i've had riften underwater issues: dark to the point of blindness that jumps back into view with a thumbstick move.

Yep. That's correct. But when they come out with new patches (assuming they do), he might want to follow the instructions, which are basically the same for each patch. Just delete the game and any prior patches (not savegame data) from the PS3's hard drive and reinstall. Then load up a character, make a new save and reboot, then after 20 minutes or so of play, make another new save and reboot again.


Sounds like the way to go. He probably won't have a problem because the 1.4 patch seems to have drastically reduced savegame file size. My file size was over 8 MB before I installed the SSD and I was having only minor problems that were easily fixed by a reboot every few hours of gameplay. Since patch 1.4, none of my savegame files have gotten much over 6 MB, so even without an SSD, it should work okay.

My game even looks better with 1.5 the shadows are so real now and the water effects make swimming more real and believable, The kill cams are perfect for me and happen when they need to I have had no problem with 1.5.

I really like the new kill cams and underwater but at the same time they gave us stuff like the broken werewolf killcams and dragons are still bugged...maybe i have to start a new game AGAIN!

I dont know..but before they release a dlc,they should fix the bugs first..and there are still alot of them..minor and major ones....well thats my opinion...and if they dont suprise me with some super ueber awesome dlc or a werewolf skill tree..iam probably not coming back to skyrim so soon.There are many other good games coming the next two months.

so what do you think about magic killkams from about 5 feet away on small mudcrabs with destruction flames?

I know you weren't asking me, but I love them. They make me laugh out loud. In my head I'm thinking, "Die, [censored], die! Taste my flames! Burn! Hahaha!". Same thing whenever I get a destruction killcam on a bandit. It gives me goosebumps because it hits it home that I'm freakin' frying the guy's brains out with dual casted Spark. Yeah, I'm a freakin' Sith living in Syrim. The power of the darkside!!!

Basically, it gives me a couple of seconds to actually savor the pain I'm causing in a cinematic.

I have a huge list of broken quests

2/10

Cool beans. I'll start hounding him again. I really want him to experience this game.

The trick I've found now with smithing is to hang onto all of those gemstones you'd normally dump off on belethor and make jewelry with mining iron + transmute

I have yet to use magic kill cams yet.